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Fartbox posted:So is it mostly just old folks who are dying then? The elderly, people with preexisting conditions, and people without access to proper medical care The bulk of China's population is all three of these at the same time
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Fartbox posted:But as a grotesquely wealthy and privileged young scandinavian I'm basically safe? Yeah probably.
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Fartbox posted:But as a grotesquely wealthy and privileged young scandinavian I'm basically safe? Probably but corona viruses can still gently caress you up Sushi The Kid posted:Back in December of 2013 I had a form of the Coronavirus, may have been MERS-CoV. I felt like I just had a cold about the first 5-7 days, then I just really felt bad. I worked for a couple days, came home and hit the bed. On like day 3 of bed rest, I could feel the life leaving me. Told my WIFE "Ok, let's go to the hospital". I was there about 20 minutes, when the doctor said, we don't have the equipment of the staff to treat you here. We have a ambulance standing by, you are going straight to the University hospital. The thing is you don't want to catch it during the peak. I don't know how many ICUs there are in your country but I doubt it's even enough to handle 1% of the population getting infected at once with even 3% - 10% needing ICU and ventilator care. america has 20 ICUs per 100,000 people, if 1% catch it that's 1,000, and its seeming like rates for serious/critical conditions is 10% of cases so still 100-150 people per 20 units, ain't gunna work, people are gunna have to go untreated and die. that's the thing, yeah you'd otherwise be fine getting it right now because they could probably keep you alive if complications do occur, but not when everyone needs it at once. Xaris fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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MorrisBae posted:Did Sushi ever say how old he was? 35, which i imagine is around median goon age
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Pick posted:yeah exactly. i hear ya man. Thanks 
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Thanks to the goons a few pages ago for the citations re: antipyretics. Will make some good light reading
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it's time for your health reminder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-A4zT8wp8E
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unpacked robinhood posted:the divine bat soup The Blessed covert virus lab
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Couple accounts from inside the infection zones: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/evjzso/my_mom_passed_away_in_an_isolated_ward_in_wuhan_a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/evhas5/what_its_like_in_china_right_now/
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Omnikin posted:I call dibs on being "cool guy with motorcycle" in the apocalyptic wastelands of upstate New York. Probably take over an orchard and try to stockpile apples and poo poo for next winter im getting together an orc warband. we will pillage and loot this guy's orchard still looking for a warboss
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gary oldmans diary posted:viruses arent alive. without the presence of a host cell they have the machinery to do nothing on their own By that definition, are parasites that require a host to survive not alive? There are several more complex organisms like worms like that. This is fun. It gives me something to do while I hack my lungs out.
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Fartbox posted:cells, atoms, molecules etc are not alive robots with AI are considered 'human' in movies and such, or at least not "inhuman" enough to be easily killed on screen without tear jerking music and stuff. We are flesh computers that can think for themselves so ergo we have soul and should be saved in a hollywood drama. That's personhood alright
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Omnikin posted:I call dibs on being "cool guy with motorcycle" in the apocalyptic wastelands of upstate New York. Probably take over an orchard and try to stockpile apples and poo poo for next winter You going to trip and fall on an infected theater marquee
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WorldsStongestNerd posted:By that definition, are parasites that require a host to survive not alive? There are several more complex organisms like worms like that.
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UnknownTarget posted:So he said we'll be fine and he's probably in a position where he can't share details...why are you looking for a reason to be concerned? He later clarified by saying that as long as you're healthy, not old, and not a child, you're probably okay. A little less comforting. He then gave me this set of epidemiological rules to adhere to in these situations: 1. Don't eat bat or food from where bats poo poo 2. Don't chase chickens 3. Wash your god drat hands. 4. Avoid Countries where food is not eaten with a fork or spoon. 5. Burn the dead.
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Suspect A posted:The optimal human population is 300 selected individuals located in fortress Albania. Yeah but not one on this site would be selected to be part of those 300, so I'm not sure what to do with this information.
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gary oldmans diary posted:no not according to what i said at all. parasites can wriggle around looking for a host. they probably get a little nutrition where they can on the way. a virus doesnt do anything There are some parasites that can't get nutrition along the way. They must have a host. And are you saying viruses can't move?
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WorldsStongestNerd posted:There are some parasites that can't get nutrition along the way. They must have a host. And are you saying viruses can't move? no a virus cannot move itself. viruses are incapable of that. they are basically inert until they haphazardly encounter the right conditions to inject their genetic info
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gary oldmans diary posted:they are basically inert until they haphazardly encounter the right conditions to inject their genetic info No doxing please thanks
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Fumble posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icp6TBwI-y8 If this is real, then things are getting so bad the official response is now 'board up the houses of the potentially infected with them inside and let them ride it out on their own' 
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gary oldmans diary posted:they are basically inert until they haphazardly encounter the right conditions to inject their genetic info How goons lose their virginity ^
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i am harry posted:Couple accounts from inside the infection zones: quote:The funeral parlor refused to let us in and asked us to leave after signing the document. He was complaining that they were full and it was much more serious than we initially thought.
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Fartbox posted:I'm gonna be a cool guy on rollerblades, but the rollerblades have actual blades as wheels so I can attack people with my feet and like, rollerblade some guys head clean off Just think about it. How many murderous rollerbladers have you heard of? NONE. But murderous ice skaters? Why, they're a dime a dozen! You can take the ice skate off the ice skater, but you can't take the ice skate off their icy soul.
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Fartbox posted:So is it mostly just old folks who are dying then? Healthy adults merely need a long stint in the ICU hooked up to a ventilator. You won't be dead, you'll merely wish you were for awhile. Or if the ICU is full then you'll be dead Actually I haven't seen an update on how often the infected need ICU care but last I read it was close to 50%. That was based on early numbers from China though so who the hell knows
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New cases in China surpass SARS epidemic as infections grow abroad; WHO calls for emergency committee meeting https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-live-updates/2020/01/29/d49b9194-423b-11ea-b503-2b077c436617_story.html In this story the director general of the WHO says it's about 1 in 5 cases who experience respiratory failure, no idea what percentage of those were healthy adults but it's definitely not 0
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QuarkJets posted:Healthy adults merely need a long stint in the ICU hooked up to a ventilator. You won't be dead, you'll merely wish you were for awhile. I think its not 50% but its still fairly high given how contagious this appears to be.
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Telsa Cola posted:I think its not 50% but its still fairly high given how contagious this appears to be. Yeah it's only 20% according to the WHO. That's still disastrous if not adequately contained
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QuarkJets posted:New cases in China surpass SARS epidemic as infections grow abroad; WHO calls for emergency committee meeting Read it again quote:“Of known cases, most people exhibit milder symptoms, but about 1 in 5 people have severe illness, including #pneumonia and respiratory failure,” It doesn't say everyone with pneumonia experiences respiratory failure It says 1 in 5 get either/or or both
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