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i am harry posted:Asymptomatic contagion It’s now important to know when this child has symptoms. The flu is contagious 1 day before symptoms, while your body has yet to notice that the virus is in full swing. There is still hope we don’t have a virus that is contagious for a very long incubation period. Hopefully we know more soon, just so we aren’t here guessing for much longer.
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QuarkJets posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-live-updates/2020/01/29/d49b9194-423b-11ea-b503-2b077c436617_story.html This bit: Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director general of the WHO posted:“Of known cases, most people exhibit milder symptoms, but about 1 in 5 people have severe illness, including #pneumonia and respiratory failure,” he wrote. He said he is concerned that the outbreak is coinciding with flu season and impacting health systems. Is he saying that its only having serious effect on about 1 in 5 people?
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We have a coworker who's home in China right now and is coming back in a couple weeks. Really hope he doesn't bring anything back.
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Jan 29, 2020 17:43
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Scott Morrison decided he's not been awful enough about the fires in Australia, so he's evacuating the "most vulnerable" citizens but quarantining them in the infamous immigrant detention centre on Christmas Island...and they're expected to pay for it. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/29/australian-coronavirus-evacuees-to-be-quarantined-on-christmas-island
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Enfys posted:Scott Morrison decided he's not been awful enough about the fires in Australia, so he's evacuating the "most vulnerable" citizens but quarantining them in the infamous immigrant detention centre on Christmas Island...and they're expected to pay for it. Well that's one way to deal with the two adults and two australian born children they've paid 26mil to keep there.
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Jan 29, 2020 17:47
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i am harry posted:Couple accounts from inside the infection zones: Dude in Shanghai talking about how the city of 25 million people is practically a ghost town and all the comments want to talk about is that he mentioned a KFC lol
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Jan 29, 2020 17:51
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Fumble posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icp6TBwI-y8  what does this sign say ?
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quote:Between November 2002 and July 2003, an outbreak of SARS in southern China caused an eventual 8,098 cases, resulting in 774 deaths reported in 17 countries  but seriously though imagine if someones been carrying this through new york for a week
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Jan 29, 2020 17:56
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unpacked robinhood posted:
My phone cycled for a bit, then came up with: This household Wuhan Shexiang people Do not touch
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unpacked robinhood posted:
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Jan 29, 2020 18:07
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Biohazard posted:We have a coworker who’s home in China right now and is coming back in a couple weeks. Really hope he doesn’t bring anything back. Mods please quarantine forums user “Biohazard”
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Chrs posted:This bit: CDC posted:The overall burden of influenza for the 2017-2018 season was an estimated 45 million influenza illnesses, 21 million influenza-associated medical visits, 810,000 influenza-related hospitalizations, and 61,000 influenza-associated deaths Splicer fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Jan 29, 2020 18:11
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CassandraZara posted:Mods please quarantine forums user “Biohazard” noooo I don't even feel sick!
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Jan 29, 2020 18:12
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Biohazard posted:noooo I don't even feel sick!
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Jan 29, 2020 18:14
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First death outside of China - 29-year old with HIV https://twitter.com/ANCALERTS/status/1222418931085914112
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MorrisBae posted:First death outside of China - 29-year old with HIV Saw this earlier. I notice that most news sources are leaving the HIV+ part out of the headlines
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Jan 29, 2020 18:23
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Is there any benefit to getting the Pneumococcal vaccination? Like if the HIV+ guy who died would have got it, would that have helped him any? Looking at the CDC guidelines: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/adult.html quote:Pneumococcal vaccination
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MorrisBae posted:First death outside of China - 29-year old with HIV I thought there was a Thai woman or was that in china
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Jan 29, 2020 18:35
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It's worth remembering that this virus emerged in early December and the CCP was actively covering up its severity until mid-January. The virus probably managed to leave China in that time and if the "complications for 1 in 5 people" thing is taken at face value then we should have seen more pronounced effects outside of China by now if this had the potential to reach Spanish Flu levels of pandemic.
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Jan 29, 2020 18:37
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MorrisBae posted:Is there any benefit to getting the Pneumococcal vaccination? I don't think immunocompromised people are supposed to get vaccinated.
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Jan 29, 2020 18:38
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Chrs posted:This bit: That's how I read it. But the word "only" downplays how worrying that rate really is; imagine how hosed we'd be if even 1% of people simultaneously caught viral pneumonia
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Jan 29, 2020 18:43
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Hey, 20 days cover-up is a lot of improvement from the last time, where it was a 3 month cover-up. Probably improve to international standard of a week in 10 years I don't even know if I'm joking
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gary oldmans diary posted:download the google translate app, chinese -> english, camera Google Translate is bad with Chinese, use Pleco.
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Fojar38 posted:It's worth remembering that this virus emerged in early December and the CCP was actively covering up its severity until mid-January. The virus probably managed to leave China in that time and if the "complications for 1 in 5 people" thing is taken at face value then we should have seen more pronounced effects outside of China by now if this had the potential to reach Spanish Flu levels of pandemic. I’m guessing it’s complications for 1 in 5 people who we know have it aswell. If the symptoms really are mild for some people then there could be some people who have this thing and not even realise it.
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QuarkJets posted:That's how I read it. But the word "only" downplays how worrying that rate really is; imagine how hosed we'd be if even 1% of people simultaneously caught viral pneumonia No you’re right I could have pricked my words better there.
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Fojar38 posted:It's worth remembering that this virus emerged in early December and the CCP was actively covering up its severity until mid-January. The virus probably managed to leave China in that time and if the "complications for 1 in 5 people" thing is taken at face value then we should have seen more pronounced effects outside of China by now if this had the potential to reach Spanish Flu levels of pandemic. the sudden rise in cases came with a time of peak travel, so the virus may not have left the Wuhan area until relatively recently. Almost all of the known international cases were people coming from Wuhan It already has a higher R0 than Spanish Flu, per official estimates. But Spanish Flu had a lot more circumstantial factors that were unusually supportive of its spread, and those factors persisted for a long time
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Jan 29, 2020 18:56
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I'm looking for number of current cases that have been hospitalised but am struggling to find anything concrete - does anyone have a source for how many have ended up needing to be hospitalised? Though the trouble with this data is that it's hard to tell how many people have been infected who had such mild symptoms they didn't need treatment and thus weren't tested.
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Fojar38 posted:It's worth remembering that this virus emerged in early December and the CCP was actively covering up its severity until mid-January. The virus probably managed to leave China in that time and if the "complications for 1 in 5 people" thing is taken at face value then we should have seen more pronounced effects outside of China by now if this had the potential to reach Spanish Flu levels of pandemic. Nuke China, it would solve a lot of problems
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Enfys posted:I'm looking for number of current cases that have been hospitalised but am struggling to find anything concrete - does anyone have a source for how many have ended up needing to be hospitalised? From yesterday: quote:At 00: 00-24: 00 on January 28, 2020 , 840 new cases of pneumonia caused by new coronavirus infection were added in Hubei Province (315 in Wuhan, 33 in Huangshi, 23 in Shiyan, and new in Xiangyang). 61 new cases, 12 new cases in Yichang, 30 new cases in Jingzhou, 28 new cases in Jingmen, 27 new cases in Ezhou, 101 new cases in Xiaogan City, 111 new cases in Huanggang City, 21 new cases in Xianning City (46 cases in Suizhou City, 13 cases in Enshi Prefecture, 5 cases in Xiantao City, 11 cases in Tianmen City, 1 case in Qianjiang City, and 2 cases in Shennongjia Forest District). There were 25 new deaths in the province, including 19 in Wuhan, 2 in Xiaogan, and 1 in Jingmen, Ezhou, Huanggang, and Tianmen. But yes afaik the cases are largely 'had or decided to go to the hospital' levels, which is a good thing because there's many others just carrying on feeling normally sick.
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Yeah, if you don't feel bad enough to go to the doctor, it goes unreported. There are likely untold thousands of people who have it but just stayed home and binged Netflix until they felt better.
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Caveat Emptor but this is apparently an article by a Wuhan journalist about what it's currently like within a full quarantine of 11 million people, what led to the delay and finally the decision, and how ~1 million potential carriers fled and are now marooned outside their region. https://chinamediaproject.org/2020/01/27/dramatic-actions/
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Fartbox posted:I'm gonna be a cool guy on rollerblades, but the rollerblades have actual blades as wheels so I can attack people with my feet and like, rollerblade some guys head clean off These are called "ice skates", google it my friend your mind will be blown
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Joe Bogan posted:These are called "ice skates", google it my friend your mind will be blown Staggering awkwardly after your victim like a boss.
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Keep seeing on the news of US locals who are in quarantine zones in China for vacation/family/work and they can't come home and they're pleading to be evacuated out. What part of quarantine do you not understand?
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Only ~100 new cases reported in the last 15 hours looks like we got this licked.
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i am harry posted:Well that's one way to deal with the two adults and two australian born children they've paid 26mil to keep there. Yeah, their plaintive comment that 'at least people in normal prisons have other people to talk to' clearly reached Scomo's compassionate ears!
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Just getting back from Beijing today. NBD not sick in any ways. Driver on the way to the airport looked a little off, but who knows it's China. Can't wait to get to the Superbowl this weekend! Go Chiefs!
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FistEnergy posted:Caveat Emptor but this is apparently an article by a Wuhan journalist about what it's currently like within a full quarantine of 11 million people, what led to the delay and finally the decision, and how ~1 million potential carriers fled and are now marooned outside their region. This is insane. quote:Through to January 19, Baibuting Garden (武汉市百步亭社区), an area advertised as a model residential community in Wuhan, was still holding a Spring Festival banquet celebration for its 40,000 residents. There was no attempt to stem the flow of people to Wuhan from all over the country and around the world. During what was the most critical phase for controlling the outbreak, Wuhan was essentially an open city owing to the efforts of local officials to keep a lid on the story. I looked at a map and Baibuting Garden is like 1 square mile of buildings....40,000 people............
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