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Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

Subjunctive posted:

what does this have to do with Silicon Valley? the company is in Denmark, it has nothing to do with computers, and they say very explicitly that it’s like a hybrid handkerchief/tissue pack



why is this worse than someone making a new fountain pen or Reebok releasing a new shoe design, or any other product iteration?

this seems so utterly harmless and clear about what it is that I don’t really understand the shade being thrown

The original iteration of the website (before the Kickstarter campaign went live) didn't mention handkerchiefs at all. It just said how wasteful paper tissues were and how they'd come up with a version made out of washable cotton - all with the same kind of technical detail that you see in techbro startup pitches.

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Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Helen Highwater posted:

The original iteration of the website (before the Kickstarter campaign went live) didn't mention handkerchiefs at all. It just said how wasteful paper tissues were and how they'd come up with a version made out of washable cotton - all with the same kind of technical detail that you see in techbro startup pitches.

Ok boomer

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Platystemon posted:

They’ll never be able to compete with my stainless handkerchief, made of all-natural mineral fibres.

It can be cleaned in a roaring fire.

because it’s asbestos

The descriptions of historical asbestos cloth does sound really fuckin' cool, shame about the whole cancer thing cuz otherwise I'd love something like that.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Subjunctive posted:

what does this have to do with Silicon Valley? the company is in Denmark, it has nothing to do with computers, and they say very explicitly that it’s like a hybrid handkerchief/tissue pack



why is this worse than someone making a new fountain pen or Reebok releasing a new shoe design, or any other product iteration?

this seems so utterly harmless and clear about what it is that I don’t really understand the shade being thrown

Read some of the responses to my post to see that there is a fine tradition of techbros trying too hard to be ~innovators~ and thinking they've invented something very commonplace. This definitely looked like that.

Knowing the real deal now, am I allowed to throw shade at a company presenting a box for handkerchiefs as an exciting and innovative product?

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Subjunctive posted:

what does this have to do with Silicon Valley? the company is in Denmark, it has nothing to do with computers, and they say very explicitly that it’s like a hybrid handkerchief/tissue pack



why is this worse than someone making a new fountain pen or Reebok releasing a new shoe design, or any other product iteration?

this seems so utterly harmless and clear about what it is that I don’t really understand the shade being thrown

someone is trying to profit off an "idea" thats already been done, already been solved, and doesnt involve a loving smartphone

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Subjunctive posted:

what does this have to do with Silicon Valley? the company is in Denmark, it has nothing to do with computers, and they say very explicitly that it’s like a hybrid handkerchief/tissue pack



why is this worse than someone making a new fountain pen or Reebok releasing a new shoe design, or any other product iteration?

this seems so utterly harmless and clear about what it is that I don’t really understand the shade being thrown

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jibbon/jibbon-worlds-best-key-organiser-made-from-italian-leather

i built one of these for a whole dollar

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019


$128,788AUD, the world deserves to burn to the ground.

poemdexter
Feb 18, 2005

Hooray Indie Games!

College Slice

No one makes anything anymore because no one has time or money or space to buy tools.

Serf
May 5, 2011


this isn't even getting into the truly dumb silicon valley poo poo like google was trying to figure out how to solve the commute problem for their employees and it was like "we've designed something new and innovative. it's basically a long, tall car and it can fit many people inside it. it travels along a predetermined route, and our employees can ride it to our campus"

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

poemdexter posted:

No one makes anything anymore because no one has time or money or space to buy tools.

of course but you can also just use a keychain theyre like 99 cents

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Serf posted:

this isn't even getting into the truly dumb silicon valley poo poo like google was trying to figure out how to solve the commute problem for their employees and it was like "we've designed something new and innovative. it's basically a long, tall car and it can fit many people inside it. it travels along a predetermined route, and our employees can ride it to our campus"

I'm pretty sure that's actually just them trying to find ways to replace their employees' commute time with additional work time, not them re-inventing the bus.

Look it has wifi, there's no reason to ever stop working anymore!

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

poemdexter posted:

No one makes anything anymore because no one has time or money or space to buy tools.

I really wish makerspaces were more affordable/had less techbrah guys because it's basically library socialism's solution to scare luxury distribution with an entry fee. I used one for a while in school, it was nice. Included in tuition, and I could share a bank of 3d printers, sewing machines, general hand tools and some nice electronics stuff. It's nice knowing that, my massive uselessness aside, I could make almost anything I could think of given time and supplies. Shame I graduated before they added the woodworking stuff tho, I miss making clock houses. All the ones around cost $$$$$ and seem to be tailored to assholes trying to make their own startup.


I also wish asbestos wasn't dangerous because it loving rules otherwise. We're gonna have to disrupt pathetic human lungs some day. Also C-SPAM more like C-SPAT amiright.

T-man has issued a correction as of 23:22 on Jan 29, 2020

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
my local library has a library of things you can check out now; some Berkeley libraries have tool libraries and like a whole bike repair shop

omaha public library has this iirc, even in an old borders i think -- https://dospace.org

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

as with everything else on kickstarter, it seems like a good idea until you look at your key ring and realize the key fob for your car, your house key, and your spec's bottle club tag render it useless.

-Zydeco-
Nov 12, 2007



Isn't this normal for a movie since it's not a ongoing production?



Megillah Gorilla posted:

Forever best was the guy who "invented" a method of standing which didn't put as much strain on the legs as regular standing, but didn't involve sitting.

Yes, he invented leaning.

Yes, he wanted money for it.


EDIT:

$600 each.




Or the premium model, a bargain at $800:



$65 and you can even sit all the way down.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/28/french-firefighters-set-alight-start-fighting-police-12139804/amp/

French firefighters set themselves alight and start fighting against police

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


starkebn posted:

https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/28/french-firefighters-set-alight-start-fighting-police-12139804/amp/

French firefighters set themselves alight and start fighting against police



:black101:

Serf
May 5, 2011


Shame Boy posted:

I'm pretty sure that's actually just them trying to find ways to replace their employees' commute time with additional work time, not them re-inventing the bus.

Look it has wifi, there's no reason to ever stop working anymore!

it can be a lot of things, but at its core it was them trying to reinvent the bus but without the poors

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Feb 2, 2009



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starkebn posted:

https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/28/french-firefighters-set-alight-start-fighting-police-12139804/amp/

French firefighters set themselves alight and start fighting against police



Danger, cursed image ahead

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


if you set yourself on fire and become a fire elemental in order to adequately kick the police's rear end, you have earned the right to wear whatever loving face paint you want

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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eh any genuinely popular (as in made out of the people) movement is going to be pretty uncool a lot of the time, the circus of revolt in france is more than worth a bit of lameness imo

plus it makes it harder to ID you for future consequences

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It would be cooler if they did ICP face paint though.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
What's wrong with the Joker face paint? The theme of his character was extreme civil disobedience against capitalism and its cronies, in the most recent film at least.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Flayer posted:

What's wrong with the Joker face paint? The theme of his character was extreme civil disobedience against capitalism and its cronies, in the most recent film at least.

absolutely nothing

at worst the movie is a bit lame and made by a big corporation so it's loving cynical, but I don't see how that impacts the coolness of unionized firefighters protesting by setting themselves on fire and fighting the cops

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Everything about the opioid problem in the states is so hosed but this seems particularly egregious:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-29/health-records-company-pushed-opioids-to-doctors-in-secret-deal

tl;dr Perdue paid a company to design some free medical records software which automatically prompts users to ask patients about their pain level and then recommends opiates (among other things) as a treatment option. The software is now used by about 30k practices,

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

bike tory posted:

Everything about the opioid problem in the states is so hosed but this seems particularly egregious:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-29/health-records-company-pushed-opioids-to-doctors-in-secret-deal

tl;dr Perdue paid a company to design some free medical records software which automatically prompts users to ask patients about their pain level and then recommends opiates (among other things) as a treatment option. The software is now used by about 30k practices,

Opiates are the religion of the masses.

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Feb 2, 2009



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dex_sda posted:

absolutely nothing

at worst the movie is a bit lame and made by a big corporation so it's loving cynical, but I don't see how that impacts the coolness of unionized firefighters protesting by setting themselves on fire and fighting the cops

I wasn't trying to say it's uncool, just that Joker is lame conceptually. What they are doing is badass.

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

Flayer posted:

What's wrong with the Joker face paint? The theme of his character was extreme civil disobedience against capitalism and its cronies, in the most recent film at least.

as the joker was one of the few recent popular movies playing on the themes of isolation caused by capital and a broken political system than needs to be violently changed, the media executed a concerted campaign trying to baselessly attach racism and sexism to it. that’s why all the talking heads were visibly disappointed no one shot up a joker screening.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

dressing up as a movie character is going to be lame no matter what movie it is, it's the same issue as the anon v for vendetta mask thing. still, if these people find it useful somehow that's entirely up to them, they're massively badass

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

uninterrupted posted:

as the joker was one of the few recent popular movies playing on the themes of isolation caused by capital and a broken political system than needs to be violently changed, the media executed a concerted campaign trying to baselessly attach racism and sexism to it. that’s why all the talking heads were visibly disappointed no one shot up a joker screening.

it's more than this imo - the joker has clear sympathy for a representative of the emasculated and disempowered young white male, who is basically the bête noir of contemporary liberalism. it's also a super hero movie, which is considered gauche dross for the unwashed masses and not a respectable genre. almost everything about it is pretty much perfectly designed to make people clutch their pearls

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


V. Illych L. posted:

dressing up as a movie character is going to be lame no matter what movie it is, it's the same issue as the anon v for vendetta mask thing. still, if these people find it useful somehow that's entirely up to them, they're massively badass

I understand that but the v for vendetta thing became a worldwide symbol. Yes, it was lame at the source, and isn't as cool or organic as yellow vests becoming a symbol, but do not underestimate the power of pop culture.

capital throws a lot of pop culture at us to make the status quo more acceptable, I think it's fine to throw it back in their face sometimes

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

uninterrupted posted:

as the joker was one of the few recent popular movies playing on the themes of isolation caused by capital and a broken political system than needs to be violently changed, the media executed a concerted campaign trying to baselessly attach racism and sexism to it. that’s why all the talking heads were visibly disappointed no one shot up a joker screening.

Kinda seems like neoliberals created their own boogeyman out of the joker to shove down everyone's throats and are horrified that it resonated

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Ghost Leviathan posted:

Kinda seems like neoliberals created their own boogeyman out of the joker to shove down everyone's throats and are horrified that it resonated

it's actually funny that this worked out so well, turns out all you need is a film with some integrity and the liberals do the hard work of pearl clutching it into relevance themselves

and joker isn't even all that interesting imo, it's just a few rungs higher on the ladder than the lameass superhero movies (that aren't logan)

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


tangential: anyone seen Parasite? I'm hearing good stuff about this but I also saw criticism from my lib-but-reasonable-and-knows-marx-and-actually-i-don't-know-how-he's-a-lib colleague who said it was a bit simplistic. Worth the watch?

Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006

It absolutely owns, it's a good movie on its own merits.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

dex_sda posted:

and joker isn't even all that interesting imo, it's just a few rungs higher on the ladder than the lameass superhero movies (that aren't logan)

I'm holding out hope for a reboot of Egghead personally.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


-Zydeco- posted:

Isn't this normal for a movie since it's not a ongoing production?

only for the parts that are being used to dodge taxes, normally you go from movie contract to movie contract, the cg animation industry has been having quite a crunch lately with under bidding then doing extra work on top of that and by the end, or sometimes even before it, shutting down because they dont have any money to keep running

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dex_sda posted:

tangential: anyone seen Parasite? I'm hearing good stuff about this but I also saw criticism from my lib-but-reasonable-and-knows-marx-and-actually-i-don't-know-how-he's-a-lib colleague who said it was a bit simplistic. Worth the watch?

It's an incredible movie

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Jan 7, 2012

dex_sda posted:

tangential: anyone seen Parasite? I'm hearing good stuff about this but I also saw criticism from my lib-but-reasonable-and-knows-marx-and-actually-i-don't-know-how-he's-a-lib colleague who said it was a bit simplistic. Worth the watch?

Absolutely worth it and your colleague only thinks it is simplistic because they don't realize just how awful the rich can be.

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