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Monowhatever
Mar 19, 2010


With the news on Graham coming out of nowhere, I feel like this trial is going to end with almost half of Congress implicated in this dumb poo poo as well.

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Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

zonohedron posted:

I'm planning on calling and thanking Cruz for his question, tbh (that's one of the ones I did hear while driving around today). I suspect (because all Republicans seem to understand is projection) that Cruz (and maybe Graham) really did expect Schiff to be flustered, to say "Obama would never do that" or something.

bobjr posted:

There’s been a lot of times I think some GOP rep or Senator has tried that move and was shocked the answer was saying it would be wrong and something should be done instead of circling the wagons to protect a corrupt leader.
You may be right, which I suppose is even more damning for these people - not only does each one lack anything resembling a spine or integrity, they don't even realise that others might be different. Or, I suppose, that it's very easy indeed to say "yeah we absolutely 100% would've adopted the exact same position if our places had been reversed X years ago, despite that never having been the case". Which is even stranger considering that Graham, for one, has been doing the very same thing right now regarding the question what constitutes abuse of power and whether such abuse would be impeachable.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Nadler is so, SO, bad at this.

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



i guess the only thing you can impeach for is BJs

syntaxrigger
Jul 7, 2011

Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

"The presumption that the chief justice of the highest court in the nation could make some sort of legal ruling on executive privilege is quite a step" is a pretty galaxy brain take.

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin

ManBoyChef posted:

i guess the only thing you can impeach for is BJs

See sex = bad.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Monowhatever posted:

With the news on Graham coming out of nowhere, I feel like this trial is going to end with almost half of Congress implicated in this dumb poo poo as well.

anything actually new?

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Ok Jay Sekulow is even worse than Nadler.

E: "If they call witnesses then we would to!" Um. Ok? And?

twice burned ice
Dec 29, 2008

My stove defies the laws of physics!

ManBoyChef posted:

i guess the only thing you can impeach for is BJs

No, I don't think so. It's well understood that achieving orgasm results in lower self-reported stress levels. Naturally, a less-stressed president is more capable of good governance, and so, Clinton's receiving a blowjob in the oval office was in the public interest.

QED

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
I see we're in the "Yeah, he did it, so what" part of this scandal.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

BigBallChunkyTime posted:

I see we're in the "Yeah, he did it, so what" part of this scandal.

havent we been there for a couple days now?

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
break time. CNN is tearing into Dersh divine right of kings bullshit.

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

bobjr posted:

There’s been a lot of times I think some GOP rep or Senator has tried that move and was shocked the answer was saying it would be wrong and something should be done instead of circling the wagons to protect a corrupt leader.
they did that with obamacare "oh you democrats LOVE obamacare so much why don't we all be required to use it??"
"ok"
"no not like that!" *votes against own amendment*

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Dapper_Swindler posted:

break time. CNN is tearing into Dersh divine right of kings bullshit.
I wonder how much this powder keg would explode if all the major headlines for the rest of the week are "Trump should be a King: GOP Senators" :allears:

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Grouchio posted:

I wonder how much this powder keg would explode if all the major headlines for the rest of the week are "Trump should be a King: GOP Senators" :allears:

possibly. MSN loving hates trump and i can;t really blame them even if that kinda suck alot sometimes/often.

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

First time I'm watching C-SPAN and cripes, it's really just one extremely poorly informed conspiracy nut after another calling in, isn't it.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Has Lindsey Graham made any statements about this in a public fashion which may be proven untrue by Parnas saying he knew about the whole thing? Surely he has, right?

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



I dont know if it is true but Cruz just put out a tweet that Schumer invited Parnas to the senate as his guest and he was thrown out because of his ankle bracelet. I don't have twitter and I refuse to get it.

Rauros
Aug 25, 2004

wanna go grub thumping?

Sombrerotron posted:

First time I'm watching C-SPAN and cripes, it's really just one extremely poorly informed conspiracy nut after another calling in, isn't it.

Yeah, one chud after another. Answer the other line!

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



Sombrerotron posted:

First time I'm watching C-SPAN and cripes, it's really just one extremely poorly informed conspiracy nut after another calling in, isn't it.

did you hear the caller before the caller from lakeland florida that brought romney into the mix with hunter biden? These people are batshit crazy. Anyone they don't like they make a conspiracy about.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

ManBoyChef posted:

I dont know if it is true but Cruz just put out a tweet that Schumer invited Parnas to the senate as his guest and he was thrown out because of his ankle bracelet. I don't have twitter and I refuse to get it.

It was expected that it was pretty unlikely that he was going to be allowed into the Senate chamber because the judge in the case refused to let him remove it. Which makes sense, the whole point of the anklet GPS monitor is that it isn't really removable

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

ManBoyChef posted:

did you hear the caller before the caller from lakeland florida that brought romney into the mix with hunter biden? These people are batshit crazy. Anyone they don't like they make a conspiracy about.
I had to laugh at that one woman arguing that the Bidens should be called up as witnesses being asked whether she also thinks John Bolton would be a relevant witness, falling silent for a moment, and then basically going "well, uh, um, no and here's my nonsensical reasons why". It's all so painfully transparent how little actual interest these people have for the truth (or quite possibly: how afraid they actually are of the truth).

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Sombrerotron posted:

I had to laugh at that one woman arguing that the Bidens should be called up as witnesses being asked whether she also thinks John Bolton would be a relevant witness, falling silent for a moment, and then basically going "well, uh, um, no and here's my nonsensical reasons why". It's all so painfully transparent how little actual interest these people have for the truth (or quite possibly: how afraid they actually are of the truth).

It was funny, because she thought the Bidens were crooked and dirty and wanted them to testify but because Bolton was a liar we didn't need to hear from him. I guess the Bidens wouldn't also lie.

refleks
Nov 21, 2006



lmao... more conspiracy bullshit

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin
THE WHISTLEBLOWER! DRINK!

twice burned ice
Dec 29, 2008

My stove defies the laws of physics!

Djarum posted:

THE WHISTLEBLOWER! DRINK!

Someone find that fucker who pulled the fire alarm! Yes, the building was on loving fire, but we need to know who's responsible for telling everyone.

refleks
Nov 21, 2006



Whats the point of a question, from your own side, where your answer starts with "I dont know exactly..."

C411
Jun 22, 2004
STUPID
DICK
Finally getting to the hard questions about what Obama did 5 years ago

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Waiting for the question: What does aid, Biden and Obama have to with anything?

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



The GOP keeps asking questions about what Obama did in regards to aid to Ukraine. Two seconds of google shows he was actually fairly generous. The fact they keep bringing it up instead of asking a pertinent question is kinda telling.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
L’Etat, c’est fart

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


ManBoyChef posted:

The GOP keeps asking questions about what Obama did in regards to aid to Ukraine. Two seconds of google shows he was actually fairly generous. The fact they keep bringing it up instead of asking a pertinent question is kinda telling.

And I'm pretty sure the answer in any case is "exactly what congress mandated", which is kinda circling back to the whole reason we're having this trial to begin with

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



ManBoyChef posted:

The GOP keeps asking questions about what Obama did in regards to aid to Ukraine. Two seconds of google shows he was actually fairly generous. The fact they keep bringing it up instead of asking a pertinent question is kinda telling.

If Obama gave aid to Ukraine, then obviously withholding aid was the right thing to do.

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



Monowhatever posted:

With the news on Graham coming out of nowhere, I feel like this trial is going to end with almost half of Congress implicated in this dumb poo poo as well.

I'm out of the loop what's the news on Graham?

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Zotix posted:

I'm out of the loop what's the news on Graham?

Parnas says he's involved or something, no one really knows, it's probably bullshit until you hear otherwise

e: unless something broke in the last like 90 minutes where i haven't looked at this, which i recognize is a possibility these days

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



btw this guy is just directly lying

https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1222635491037732865

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

It's scary to think this lizard woman Senator can just operate out in the open, loudly hissing every sibilant with nary a worry of being exposed on national TV.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



lol Collins/Murkowski ask if Trump ever complained about corruption and the Bidens to any previous Ukrainian official or ever mentioned it to anyone in his cabinet at any time before this

Trump's attorney is furiously waffling, he can't say anything

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1222638333580513280

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Also wondering when the new RINO list comes out.

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Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

Philbin deserves to be filleted for suggesting that Ukrainian prosecutor was fired despite or possibly because of investing Burisma, rather than for being corrupt himself and not doing his job.

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