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sx nmb*r	69	0.22%
w@@d n_mb_r	420	1.34%
Jeb! number	538	1.72%
Biden numbr	30330	96.72%
Total:	31357 votes

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Soup du Jour: Sep 8, 2011; I always knew I'd die with a headache.

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1222854264990654464?s=19

but bernie doesn�t have plans!!!

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:32

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 09:38

CheeseSpawn: Sep 15, 2004; Doctor Rope

Thanks Wapo for trying to give the gameplan away to Trump to counter. Also you can get a sense of the EOs Sanders would do if you read the prospect's day one agenda. such breaking journalism :downsbravo:

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:37

PawParole: Nov 16, 2019

PhilippAchtel posted:

Can US citizen expats donate? Asking for a friend.

yes, citizens abroad may vote

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:42

PhilippAchtel: May 31, 2011

PawParole posted:

yes, citizens abroad may vote

Do you have to be a (former) resident of Maryland to donate to a Maryland candidate?

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:43

Breakfast All Day: Oct 21, 2004

But Rocks Hurt Head posted:

Hahaha can't wait to see a bunch of ostensibly woke, 'pragmatic' centrists audibly denouncing BLM and the NAACP

they already did this to blm in 2016 after hillary scolded that blm activist that crashed her speech, while at the same time saying bernie had a racism problem because blm activists crashed his speech, while at the same time criticizing him for giving the platform to the activists when they crashed his speech

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:45

PawParole: Nov 16, 2019

PhilippAchtel posted:

Do you have to be a (former) resident of Maryland to donate to a Maryland candidate?

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:45

Bobby Digital: Sep 4, 2009

https://twitter.com/electionsindex/status/1222867720984764417?s=21

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:47

Eggplant Squire: Aug 14, 2003

Eggplant Squire has issued a correction as of 23:04 on Mar 4, 2020

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:49

MeatwadIsGod: Sep 30, 2004; Foretold by Gyromancy

Bobby Digital posted:

https://twitter.com/electionsindex/status/1222867720984764417?s=21

Warren and Biden hovering at the viability threshold :sickos:

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:51

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

Bobby Digital posted:

https://twitter.com/electionsindex/status/1222867720984764417?s=21

Folks

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:53

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1222629127938768898

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:55

Feldegast42: Oct 29, 2011; COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Soup du Jour posted:

gen x got completely owned by the neoliberal gerontocracy lol

Any feeble attempt to push back against capitalism got blown the gently caress out by 9/11

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:55

Truniht: Jan 10, 2019

Squeezy Farm posted:

who the gently caress gets paid to write this poo poo

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:56

Eggplant Squire: Aug 14, 2003

Eggplant Squire has issued a correction as of 23:04 on Mar 4, 2020

# ? Jan 30, 2020 14:57

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

Mr. Lobe posted:

I don't understand why lunatics like her draw an audience

have you ever watched daytime tv before

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:02

PawParole: Nov 16, 2019

Radish posted:

The only ethos of the Democratic party is "the leadership is an aristocratic class that is beyond criticism" and any sort of identity politics messaging they use is just to service that like the idiot yesterday saying Hillary was the black man of 2016. Rich white people like Pelosi and Chelsea Clinton telling Omar the Somalian refugee she needs to understand racism was another example. The next part of that story was a student telling Chelsea off to which every Twitter blue check mark decided the appropriate reaction was to weaponize Chelsea's pregnancy like have a conversation was going to cause her to miscarry and start slandering a 20 year old with no power whatsoever. They have absolutely no shame.

Somali. Somalian isn�t a word

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:04

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

Bobby Digital posted:

https://twitter.com/electionsindex/status/1222867720984764417?s=21

can we make a tv show where all it is is cameras watching neera tanden at work and every so often an intern brings her a new poll showing sanders winning and we get to watch her reaction?

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:06

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

PawParole posted:

Somali. Somalian isnt a word

but it goes great on a baguette with cheese

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:07

platzapS: Aug 4, 2007

Kazak posted:

For most professions you can't submit someone else's work as your own

CAMP COUNSELOR: Sorry kids, we can only sing songs I personally wrote around the campfire

PhilippAchtel posted:

Word for word re-purposing which Biden himself felt guilty of enough to claim that he usually said he was "paraphrasing" someone else.

So uh...

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.*

*ORIGINAL PLATZAPS POST DO NOT STEAL

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:07

Squeezy Farm: Jun 16, 2009

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1222849174393315329

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMcTTDgmmkY

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:08

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Tnis is not the hill I ever expected a goon to die on

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:08

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1222574966626865152?s=20

uhhhhhhhh what

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:09

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

any important downticket primaries where they're kicking succ out?

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:11

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

if your fishing for sources on Twitter it is safe to ignore

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:11

Emong: May 31, 2011; perpair to be annihilated

CharlestheHammer posted:

Tnis is not the hill I ever expected a goon to die on

Every single hill has a dead goon atop it

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:11

a.lo: Sep 12, 2009

Pete needs to drop out

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:12

Iron Twinkie: Apr 20, 2001; BOOP

Soup du Jour posted:

gen x got completely owned by the neoliberal gerontocracy lol

They really did fall in a sweet spot of succ. Close enough to smell the plunder from neoliberal capitalism but never actually close to taste it themselves.

Traditional organizing methods were kind of dead. The establishment still had a monopoly on media and power so any left movement got stamped out and completely marginalized. The internet really did change how we can organize and inform ourselves and the Battle of Seattle could have been viewed by X'ers the way Occupy was a generation later had they had it in their toolkit.

On the other side, you have the X'ers who bought in that have been carrying water and kissing the feet of a bunch of decrepit Skeksi who will hold onto power until their gnarled talons turn to dust. Now, well into their 50s when it finally looks like their cryptoid masters might actually keel over and die, a revolution is gaining ground that will throw them all out on their asses.

So the bottom half that could smell the rot never had to tools to build an alternative narrative at scale and organize around it and the top half toadied the gently caress up their whole lives so they could finally Get Theirs but it turns out getting theirs in the end just means getting completely loving owned. The former is a tragedy but the later is completely loving hilarious.

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:12

Mr. Lobe: Feb 23, 2007; ... Dry bones...

Sir Tonk posted:

have you ever watched daytime tv before

People don't root for the lunatics on daytime TV, they watch them and laugh at them and feel better about themselves, not build weird cults of personality around them.

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:12

galenanorth: May 19, 2016

mila kunis posted:

any important downticket primaries where they're kicking succ out?

For TN-5, Meredith Mattlin (@meredith_2020) is running as a democratic socialist against a Blue Dog. He once voted against Speaker Pelosi on the grounds that someone like Colin Powell should be Speaker, and his lack of cosponsorship is helping keep Social Security expansion from the House floor

https://ballotpedia.org/Tennessee%27s_5th_Congressional_District_election,_2020

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:13

SpiderHyphenMan: Apr 1, 2010; by Fluffdaddy

https://twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1222869705712599046?s=19

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:15

A Wizard of Goatse: Dec 14, 2014

MeatwadIsGod posted:

I mean, not really? It wouldn't surprise me if Bernie's campaign made similar overtures to Gabbard or Yang either directly to their campaigns or indirectly through supporters who have been ID'ed as having Bernie for a second choice. This kind of approach is crucial to winning caucuses. I'm sure Bernie precinct captains are all being coached on how to appeal to each candidate's supporters in the event they're non-viable after the first round has been counted.

Yeah the campaign's been putting a lot of emphasis on getting non-Bernie voters' second-choice candidates for this exact reason. Asking the other campaigns directly just seems mental tho

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:17

platzapS: Aug 4, 2007

Iron Twinkie posted:

So the bottom half that could smell the rot never had to tools to build an alternative narrative at scale and organize around it and the top half toadied the gently caress up their whole lives so they could finally Get Theirs but it turns out getting theirs in the end just means getting completely loving owned. The former is a tragedy but the later is completely loving hilarious.

this rocks

e: obviously the bottom half is welcome into the future, i'm not trying to be a dick about "generations"

platzapS has issued a correction as of 15:27 on Jan 30, 2020

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:18

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1222574966626865152?s=20

uhhhhhhhh what

how many people that attended that meeting were FBI agents?

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:20

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

https://twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1222869705712599046?s=19

lol

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:20

Nothus: Feb 22, 2001; Buglord

Gen X is going to be chasing the End of History high for the rest of their lives.

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:20

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

Yeah the campaign's been putting a lot of emphasis on getting non-Bernie voters' second-choice candidates for this exact reason. Asking the other campaigns directly just seems mental tho

I feel like if Bernie asked directly and was rebuffed we would hear about it. the alternative is they said yes which ummm no

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:20

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Soup du Jour posted:

gen x got completely owned by the neoliberal gerontocracy lol

still relevant: Why We Cannot Nominate a Young Person in 2020

quote:

From the point of view of the left, the 40-60 group is a lost generation. It�s an entire generation of American politicians who were taught all the wrong things. They were taught that to win in American politics, you go to the center. They were taught that to win as a Democrat, you distance yourself from �liberal� and �progressive� and �socialist�. You demonstrate �fiscal responsibility� by offering to �reform� entitlements or welfare. You take meetings with bankers and CEOs, because they have the money you need for your next campaign. If you lose, you take a cushy job working for a lobbying firm or a thinktank until you�re ready to try again. You don�t want to upset those guys while you�re in office, because they are your safety landing. And if you get back into office again, you want to repay them for taking care of you during your wilderness years. You talk a big game on climate change, but you quietly support fracking. You are careful about getting into bed with radical policies. Single payer, tuition-free college, big infrastructure bills�only nutty Europeans do stuff like that. After all, we�re a big country, and we�re culturally center-right. We�re not like Denmark. This is how they think. This is normal to them. They might pretend to be left-wing to win over primary voters, but everyone knew in the 00s that you pretend to be left-wing in the primaries and then pull to the center for the general.

So as someone who�s not yet old enough to run for president, I don�t consider these 40 and 50 year old centrist naysayers �young�. They don�t offer fresh thinking or fresh ideas. Instead, they are offering the same old stuff the Clinton people are offering. They look younger, and they�re better speakers, and because of this people mistake this old stuff for new stuff.

But this group of politicians is arguably more out of touch than Hillary Clinton herself. When the Clintons were coming up in Democratic politics, they still had to contend with Tip O�Neill and Walter Mondale�old guard post-war Keynesian defenders of the welfare state. The Clintons had to argue with the left-wing of the party in the beginning. The party didn�t belong to them when they started�they had to take it. So while I don�t agree with the Clintons, I respect them as fighters. They understand who they are and what they�re doing. The 40 and 50 year olds, they are shocked that there are people who don�t consider them left-wing enough, and they think these people are crazy. They have no idea how to talk to us, they don�t even know where to begin. In the 60s, Democrats created Medicare�a single payer system. Today, some of these Democrats will make a show of pretending to care about Medicare expansion, but most are willing to do little more than defend it in its current form. Many are even willing to participate in its erosion�Barack Obama himself proposed cutting hundreds of billions of dollars in Medicare and Medicaid funding in 2011. How old is Barack Obama? 57.

We face an entire generation of Democratic Party politicians who are untrustworthy and need to be purged. They are all intent on fooling you, on convincing you that they have all turned over a new leaf after coming face to face with Bernie Sanders. They want you to believe that they are the magical young Berniecrats you�ve been waiting for. They are liars. The young Berniecrats can�t run yet. In the meantime, if we want a left-wing politician, we need to go all the way back to the people who got their start in politics before the Clintons showed up. We need someone who was left-wing even before the Clintons watered that down and changed what it meant for most people. Forget the 90s, we need someone who was too left-wing for the Democratic Party in the 70s. There is only one such person left alive. First name Bernie, last name Sanders.

# ? Jan 30, 2020 15:25