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thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005

Wolfsbane posted:

The two brothers who own Rebellion are absolute shits, but most everyone else there is good. Crunch wasn't bad when I worked there but that was 10 years ago now.

Had an interview with them a few weeks back. I didn't take the job so I can't comment too much on the company, but it was one of the most effective and competent interviews I've had. Game seems fun enough if a bit limited.

For the QA role or something else? I think they asked me in for an interview a few years back but it was only a 6 month contract back then so I said "no thanks".

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Crossposting from the meme thread because I know this is relevant to several posters.


One Big UwUnion.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What I hate is doing applications on a form for local authorities that demand your complete job history. With a work history going back over 40 years, do they really want the 3 months I cleaned bogs in the local pub for 2 hours every morning because I had just moved continents, dad had just died, and I needed a reason to get out of bed in a morning?
Last time I filled in one of those I didn't put all the 'inbetween' jobs down but just made a note that 'short term jobs in hospitality or retail sector have been omitted full list available if required'. Didn't get the job, no idea if it's because I missed out 'chambermaid on Saturdays from 1984-1988'.

Seriously.

Like, even only ten or so years into my career I have 5 long term jobs and a number of short-to-medium-term side gigs or voluntary positions, all of which are essentially irrelevant at this point - like, yes, I worked in a supermarket for a year between degrees, and yes it was useful, but it was more than a decade ago and has no impact on what I'm apply for now does it MATTER?!

WhatEvil posted:

Uuuuuugh loving having to fill in forms is the worst in general. My wife went through it recently, she put her CV together, sent it in, then the next step in the application process is like "tell us all this stuff that's already on your CV" but then the way you have to enter it means you can't just copy/paste, you have to type out new stuff.

Like, what's even the point of accepting a CV in the first place?

Form-based applications are the worst. It's super draining to just re-enter all your data all over again every time when you already have a good, well-formatted CV which you can tweak the skills section of to match the job spec, an cover letters are easy. And the online form doesn't work in firefox because Google Chrome has just broken browser compatibility standards all over again and honestly what is wrong with CVs and cover letters?

God job hunting is hideous, it took me nearly 9 months last time and it was only like... 3 before I had to find a loving therapist, it's been like 3 weeks now and I'm already drained and exhausted and I just want someone to let me spend my time on something that doesn't actively hurt the world, and pay me for it, please.

I'm goign to do some volunteering this time round but volunteering doesn't pay the mortgage, and SO many charities are looking for volunteers for positions which ABSOLUTELY should be paid, but charities can get away with it and presumably couldn't function without volunteers doing what should be paid work. Ugh, capitalism.

E: that IWW thing makes me wish to god I'd kept my digital art skills up to date, I could have drawn furry inflation porn on commission ten years ago, but not a hope of that now, my skills evaporated.

I do have time to practice now, but the motivation to be creative is almost nowhere, and finding an audience is the really difficult part of any freelance creative business.

thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jan 30, 2020

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

WhatEvil posted:

Yeah I reckon so. Managed to get mine down to 1 page with the help of Parahexavoctal, the SA-Mart writing service guy (though I have no relevant formal education out of school so that was easy to cut). Took about 6 hours and he charged me like $250 but it was worth it, got 2 job offers from it. He does a lot of CVs and something that was eye-opening to me was that really you can cut out a LOT of stuff, make it a skills-focused CV and it will actually be better for it. If you're at a point where you're in your 30s or whatever you don't need lots of info about your degree, and you don't need to put your entire job history on there since leaving school. Just include the most recent one for sure, anything that is *particularly relevant/unique* about previous ones and that's it.

Overall I can recommend the writing service guy, was a really good experience and I'm really happy with the outcome.

Hmm ok thanks for the info, not looking at the moment but if poo poo hits the fan again I’ll give it a look.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


OwlFancier posted:

Crossposting from the meme thread because I know this is relevant to several posters.


One Big UwUnion.

Ow, my brain.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side

thespaceinvader posted:

Form-based applications are the worst. It's super draining to just re-enter all your data all over again every time when you already have a good, well-formatted CV which you can tweak the skills section of to match the job spec, an cover letters are easy. And the online form doesn't work in firefox because Google Chrome has just broken browser compatibility standards all over again and honestly what is wrong with CVs and cover letters?


I used to sometimes just give up immediately on applying for a job if it didn't just allow me to upload my CV/cover letter. Granted they were always poo poo jobs anyway but gently caress it, such a waste of time and energy

one good thing about my work these days is that job searching hasn't been a soul destroying experience at all. Takes just a few minutes to apply for jobs once the CV and basic template cover letter are set up, and demand is high so interviews have been easy to get and easy to pass. Not looking forward to going back to the horrible nightmare of looking for work in a different area in the UK later in life :(

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

I can't make any sense of that unless students from "the wealthiest neighborhoods" are disproportionately middle class. i'm sure that's the case

There is a long tradition in Britain amongst the elites of accidentally on purpose conflating the 'British class system' and 'class' in the analytical Marxist sense in a way that's useful to their own (latter) class interests.

In the context of this article the Eton educated are 'middle class' in the sense that they're not privately tutored aristocrats.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



The difference between the UK and the US, in terms of just how people are, the atmosphere, the general attitude of people to each other, is drastic. Being in America is hardly some kind of panacaea for all my ills but it was certainly easier to face said ills over there, because folks are just... they're friendly, you know? One time I was in a Gamestop and mentioned something about City of Heroes and someone overheard and just started talking to me and we had a whole conversation about it? In the UK that kind of behavior gets you sectioned, lol.

I get that I'm part of the problem because I am an unapproachably grumpy looking bitch and all, but I actually have the excuse of sadbrains etc., this country's just dour and cynical and hateful. And of course it feeds itself, I look grumpy and unapproachable because the idea of interacting with the fuckers around me is hateful, because they're all grumpy bastards, so they feel that way about me, etc. etc..


Go on boyos, fire up the auld UVF and do a Mountbatten on the PM, yis can still earn your place as good ones*

* Dear GHCQ: I am not seriously advocating violence, I am merely using this language to contrast the amusing scenario where the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland has managed to so thoroughly upset the Loyalists. pls no blackbag.


OwlFancier posted:

Crossposting from the meme thread because I know this is relevant to several posters.


One Big UwUnion.

oWobblies :kimchi:

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
One of my greatest secrets is that despite liking to laugh at them I actually get a proper nice buzz when lost tourists stop me for directions and have a wee chat and I successfully point them to their destination.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The only time that's happened to me the man for some reason didn't expect me to speak english.

I don't know what else he'd expect me to speak?

Also apparently very impressed at my ability to tell where north was owing to being able to see the north sea.

Some people, honestly.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

My greatest moment was German tourists asking directions to Glasgow cathedral and I was able to answer them in German.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:
Well I somehow managed to make a German ask me directions - while vacationing in Germany. Clearly I'm the most approachable and competent looking person in the thread. Now I couldn't answer him in German, nor English for that matter, but I appeared to be the right person to ask, and that's really what counts.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
I once got asked directions and whipped out my phone to Google a route, they reacted like I'd just cast a magic spell

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

My greatest moment was German tourists asking directions to Glasgow cathedral and I was able to answer them in German.

"Du bist in Edinburgh, arschloch"

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Now I want to hear germans try to pronounce all the weird scottish place names.

Especially cruel to do to people used to a language which by and large reads exactly as it's spelled.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Surprise as the Bavarian sneezes and correctly pronounces Galashiels.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
"One murder"

https://twitter.com/BeardedGenius/status/1222989929690673164

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Ms Adequate posted:

And of course it feeds itself, I look grumpy and unapproachable because the idea of interacting with the fuckers around me is hateful, because they're all grumpy bastards, so they feel that way about me, etc. etc..

This is absolutely correct and is a reason I've come around to retail workers etc. saying "have a nice day" and things like that. If they did it in the UK people would be weirded out but here in Canada, living it, it actually helps to foster an attitude where people are just nicer to each other in general.


Anyway, unrelated, but now with video:

https://twitter.com/joshua_pieters/status/1222989033124638723?s=20

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
:rip: to a once good twitter poster, tragically infected with terminal brainspiders

https://twitter.com/shaunjlawson/status/1222799825319727104?s=20

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



WhatEvil posted:

This is absolutely correct and is a reason I've come around to retail workers etc. saying "have a nice day" and things like that. If they did it in the UK people would be weirded out but here in Canada, living it, it actually helps to foster an attitude where people are just nicer to each other in general.

Same, think the thing which makes the difference is in how that's directed. If they have a script or something it's obvious and harder to be authentic, but if they are just chill and go "Have a good one" or "Thanks, see ya" then it's usually pretty nice and not at all like the stereotype of NA.

Though tbf most places I go nearby you do part with a fairly friendly "cheers" or the like, but things are a little better in corner shops and fasr food places.

Wolfsbane
Jul 29, 2009

What time is it, Eccles?

thebardyspoon posted:

For the QA role or something else? I think they asked me in for an interview a few years back but it was only a 6 month contract back then so I said "no thanks".

Programmer. I can't remember if it was contract or permanent, I didn't go for it because the commute is a bugger.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Lord Ludikrous posted:

Speaking of recruitment, is 2 pages maximum still the generally accepted size for a CV? Given how few of us only have one or two jobs in our lives I wonder if it’s a bit outdated.

Depends how many roles you've had. As a contractor I pretty much settled on one page of skills + achievements, with two pages of ruthlessly culled job descriptions. A lot of them one liners. You also tend to get the advantage of having a 30 minute chat with a tech lead then starting the next monday, rather than the completely bullshit application process for most permie jobs. That said...

jaete posted:

The upcoming IR35 changes seem to have hosed up the contractor job market a bit as of right now. The IR35 changes are happening from the beginning of the next tax year in early April and right now many employers don't yet have a plan for whether they intend, or even can, hire contractors for more than a month or two. For example, all the banks seem to have decided they will simply no longer hire any contractors, period, either you go permanent or you gently caress off; but all the other firms still need to figure out how they want to do contracting going forward.

The next 18 months are going to be a complete clusterfuck for contractors in the UK, and very few people seem to have noticed. You've already got firms like GSK, Rolls Royce and most of the major banks putting blanket bans in place. Come April there's going to be at least tens, if not hundreds of thousands of contractors desperately casting around for a new gig. I could see the writing on the wall before Christmas, so I got out of the market and hunkered down into a fairly decent permie role (getting paid monthly feels so, so weird guys). Maybe it'll just be a storm in a teacup, but a government which has no understanding of flexible working whatsoever combined with the 'oh poo poo we actually did it gently caress' brexit impact could make for an interesting couple of years.

E: Further reading, here's what HSBC are doing: https://www.contractoruk.com/news/0014399hsbc_bans_consultancies_supplying_limited_company_contractors.html

What a wonderful excuse to gently caress over all your contingent worker by essentially demanding they take a 50% pay cut to keep working for you.

RockyB fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Jan 31, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The UK is going to be a housing design innovator post-Brexit.

My worry is what happens when London landlords get their hands on the design.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

They've been writing that same article about Oxbridge for at least twenty years now.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Guavanaut posted:

The UK is going to be a housing design innovator post-Brexit.

My worry is what happens when London landlords get their hands on the design.

In fairness, this is the kind of thinking we'll all need once Brexit is done and we're reduced to scavenging through the rubbish.

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

Guavanaut posted:

The UK is going to be a housing design innovator post-Brexit.

My worry is what happens when London landlords get their hands on the design.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling




Powerful Prince Andrew vibes here.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral


Healthy, youthful PM who embodies the optimistic bulldog spirit of the nation proudly leads us all into the glorious new era.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
happy brexday every1!!!!!

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Was a little confused this morning because I woke up half way through an interview on Today where Nick Robinson was going in two-footed on someone about the people being evacuated from China and quarantined in case they have coronavirus, seemingly furious both that they might be locked in and prevented from leaving the building they were going to be kept quarantined in but also at the fact that they might not be locked in and might infect people in the hospital next to the building, quoting Jeremy "rhyming slang" Hunt to support both viewpoints.

I wasn't sure why he was giving the full Chris Morris jam-making festival treatment to someone apparently without the actual power to do anything about his (completely contradictory) "concerns", but then she mentioned "my constituents" so I looked up where the quarantine is happening, and guess what:



It really is loving pathological with them, isn't it?

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




Where's the brexit moon?

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
16hrs to brexit comrades. Hope you all stored some emergency beans in your brexit cache

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Couldn't fit them with so much else packed in.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/TottenhamYL/status/1222945503769497600?s=19

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


RockyB posted:

Contractor chat

I can see why they needed to do something, the current system is unfair in different ways at the low and higher income levels, but they could have fixed it by equalising the tax rates on people with "self employed" status and setting minimum hourly rates* at some multiple of the minimum wage to stop corps using it to avoid giving low income people benefits. Instead they've just forcing a bunch of workers into arrangements they don't want.


* Technically the payments are b2b at the moment but that could be fixed with a new status.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013



lol @ children's charity utilizing unpaid child labour.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
this didn't take long lmao

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-01-31-new-argentine-government-will-step-up-demands-to-uk-over-falklands-says-top-official/

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Ms Adequate posted:

Couldn't fit them with so much else packed in.

:stonklol:

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
TODAY'S THE BIG DAY :brexit: YEAH WOOOO

USHERING IN THE DAWN OF

a year long transitional period in which negotiations with the European Union take place about the future of our relationship.

AT LONG LAST.

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kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Azza Bamboo posted:

TODAY'S THE BIG DAY :brexit: YEAH WOOOO

USHERING IN THE DAWN OF

a year long transitional period in which negotiations with the European Union take place about the future of our relationship.

Coronavirus in the UK

AT LONG LAST.

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