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Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Unelected caretaker government here, just working on setting up elections with USAid and the boys, for democracy, ntohing to see here!
https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1220739024798801921

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RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

vyelkin posted:

i once got called a tankie genocide denier in canpol lmao

wasnt that zapplez, a crazy person?

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

eric ciaramella posted:

wasnt that zapplez, a crazy person?

it was years ago so I don't remember exactly but I think it was someone else?

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
might have been one of his alts

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


vyelkin posted:

i once got called a tankie genocide denier in canpol lmao

tell us what happened lad

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Cup Runneth Over posted:

tell us what happened lad

short version is someone posted a news article about a ukrainian-canadian group doing something related to holodomor commemoration in Canada (or something like that), and I posted a throwaway comment about how as a historian of Russia I disagreed with some of the wording in the article where the reporter just stated that the holodomor was an intentional genocide by Stalin to kill Ukrainians. then i went to the grocery store, and by the time i got back somebody was calling me an amateur winston churchill historian and accusing me of saying nobody died in the famine, so i had to do a long tryhard post talking about the historiographical debate over intentionality in the famine that nobody except Russianist academics like me cares about, and how really my core issue with the initial news story was that it just picked a side in a complex historical debate and stated it to readers like it was accepted fact

anyway this isn't the thread for this, this is the thread for laughing at juan guaido so i think we should move on! that wacky bolsonaro is at it again, what a harmless clown who thankfully has no power to harm anyone

quote:

In one of his weekly Facebook broadcasts on Thursday, Bolsonaro declared: “Indians are undoubtedly changing … They are increasingly becoming human beings just like us.”

Impkins Patootie
Apr 20, 2017





So how's things in Bolivia?

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Bad

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Great!

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

vyelkin posted:

anyway this isn't the thread for this, this is the thread for laughing at juan guaido so i think we should move on! that wacky bolsonaro is at it again, what a harmless clown who thankfully has no power to harm anyone

this is the guy wsj wrote hagiographies about

https://www.wsj.com/articles/brazils-market-revolution-11569785928
https://www.wsj.com/articles/bolsonaros-hope-and-change-1540853512
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-you-havent-read-about-brazil-11566755364
https://www.wsj.com/articles/brazilian-swamp-drainer-1539039700
galaxy brain:
https://twitter.com/molinskidan/status/1192912429967007745?lang=en

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012



Can someone recommend me a good history of the Cuban Revolution?

uncop
Oct 23, 2010
After seeing a couple of more recent interviews of Lula, I've got to say, if you want to understand the ideology of the labor aristocracy, he's your guy. He just lays contradiction after contradiction on the table as if it was nothing, because what he's about is negotiating the best possible deal between mutually antagonistic sides. The recent Michael Brooks show interview is a great example.

And I mean labor aristocracy in the classical sense, leaders of proletarian organizations who were raised up by workers from their ranks and aren't necessarily any more educated and so on. Not to be confused with the technocrat-type educated middle class who have never had an organic link to regular workers except as like managers, engineers or bureaucrats. Lula has serious empathy and reasons to be proud, but ideologically he's tied himself into an interesting knot. Like even while protesting how he's been treated, he's simultaneously trying to convince the US middle class and bourgeoisie that they are really friends and would only stand to gain from cooperation.

Mrs. Dash
Apr 11, 2009

pospysyl posted:

Can someone recommend me a good history of the Cuban Revolution?

There's an episodic documentary on Netflix about it, beginning with the independence movement from Spain. I don't know enough about it to tell you how accurate it is, but from what little I've seen half of the historians on there are Cubans and the Cuban historians are correctly calling out that US involvement in the war with Spain was just an excuse to take over Cuba after Cubans already did the heavy lifting and dying.

mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012

Condiv posted:

it doesn't help that PPJ was clearly unwilling to do what needed to be done to fix the thread. a disproportionate amount of reports came from the pro-intervention side, and PPJ would even baby them by doing stuff like giving me a month probe for not taking a strong stance on what exactly is happening in venezuela thanks to it literally being the subject of american regime change and propaganda efforts

reversal of fortune probations would work very well when you have a pissy old-guard that tries to keep debate out of their spaces via report spamming, but that would involve not coddling a stagnant community in D&D and so PPJ shrugged and gave in to the worst parts of D&D

That likely was related to him being a literal Nazi, to be fair.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/NicolasMaduro/status/1221556240444272641

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/nachoaguilar/status/1221500371052396546

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1221673455046754304

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

bolivia is still going full steam ahead at being a fascist dictatorship while simultaneously self-destructing

still oppressing the left
https://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1219380034168938501

anez announced she's running after promising she wouldn't, almost her whole cabinet was preparing to resign so she said you cant quit youre fired
https://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1221614946401820677

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Hope all the fash end up dead

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018


Not gonna lie it's a bit of a mindfuck to watch the left coalesce around a single cause while the right goes full circular firing squad for a change.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Guaido will be Interim President for Life

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

anez is a real g and gonna ball until the day she falls

BEAR GRYLLZ
Jul 30, 2006

I have strong erections for Israel.
Strong, pathetic erections.

hopefully her fall is a short one

when they make it too long it pops the head off and that poo poo is unsightly

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

i wonder if she has cia and bolivian military backing or just an insane person doing an ill advised power grab

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018


Percelus posted:

i wonder if she has cia and bolivian military backing or just an insane person doing an ill advised power grab

Chaos option: she has CIA backing but not military, or vice-versa

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


https://www.salon.com/2020/01/24/cyber-rambo-how-a-us-army-vet-aided-the-right-wing-coup-in-bolivia/

Things you do when your cause is very legitimate.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Guaido may be losing but the coup against Venezuela is slowly doing its job

Facing economic collapse and painful sanctions, the socialist government of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has proposed giving majority shares and control of its oil industry to big international corporations, a move that would forsake decades of state monopoly.

Maduro’s representatives have held talks with Russia’s Rosneft PJSC, Repsol SA of Spain and Italy’s Eni SpA. The idea is to allow them to take over government-controlled oil properties and restructure some debt of state oil company Petroleos de Venezuela SA in exchange for assets, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

He has quietly ended currency and import controls, permitting the growth of a limited dollarized market economy. In a separate effort, he has also engaged in secret talks with holders of some $60 billion in bonds, some of them American, offering to pair them up with a foreign drilling company that would be granted the rights to oil fields as a means of their recouping debt, according to people familiar with the matter.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-27/venezuela-weighs-privatizing-oil-as-it-faces-economic-freefall

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

https://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1222539157672800256

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
well that isn’t the coup that’s just sanctions which we have been at for a bit

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

It's all part of the same pressure campaign, as sanctions have ratcheted up as part of the coup, but it was also the coup specifically that stole Venezuela's international assets like Citgo from them and handed everything they could off to Guaido's people, who in addition to keeping it out of the government's hands are currently losing it all through corruption and incompetence.

Fast Luck has issued a correction as of 19:29 on Jan 29, 2020

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

BEAR GRYLLZ posted:

hopefully her fall is a short one

what's the flight ceiling for a helicopter?

exactly that far.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1222305737008914436

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Impkins Patootie posted:

So how's things in Bolivia?
https://twitter.com/DescartesStomp/status/1222915482509963264
https://twitter.com/LTrotsky21/status/1223240661631152128

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
"fascist authoritarian chaos doesnt really work"

:thunk: new thread title?

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

i hope the people retake power in bolivia and imprison or deport all the christian fascists

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Fascist authoritarian chaos works exactly as intended: violently destroying socialist movements

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/AndrewGillum/st...ingawful.com%2F

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

As far as I can tell that made everyone who ever liked him hate him

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


ikanreed posted:

As far as I can tell that made everyone who ever liked him hate him

[ Everyone disliked that. ]

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006



https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1223784960550744064

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