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Taerkar posted:You can make some really good attack ads off the whole 'No witnesses' thing in a manner that will resonate with a bunch of people. Sure can. And I know a certain billionaire who might actually be able to use his money in just such a service. I propose a trade--if Bloomberg does this, we'll give him a blindfold when we put him up against the wall 
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oxsnard posted:Yeah, this reflects what I've been seeing in the gulf coast I’m sorry, but a little help please. What am I looking at here?
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Jan 31, 2020 16:08
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mcmagic posted:I have been saying since the start of the impeachment that it was really all about 6-7 senate races.... Part of me can't believe that Susan Collins can't be re-elected after all this, but the other part has no problem believes she will be re-elected.
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Jan 31, 2020 16:10
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mcmagic posted:It's very clear what Trumpist scum want to turn this country into. An authoritarian state. They don't deserve your empathy as they wouldn't extend that to you. If I wanted to subscribe to a philosophy that was okay with letting people suffer and die when they clearly didn't need to, I would have registered and voted for Republican. I honestly don't see where resisting ghouls by becoming a ghoul yourself is a sustainable model.
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mcmagic posted:This might be true to some extent but the Republicans CAN just call Hunter Biden as a witness tomorrow if they wanted to. Yes, but it was a bluff. They don’t want Hunter Biden on the stand potentially poking holes in their narrative and they want the trial over as quickly as possible. But even if he gave a slam dunk testimony they would be able to effectively spin it to their base, and probably a few independents (Hillary testifying on Benghazi for 8 hours) so it’s not really a bad deal on paper. The only reason it’s not the winningest option for the GOP is because shutting this down ASAP is more vital to them than anything else. But the democrats could’ve called their bluff and offered Hunter up immediately and voluntarily. Either actually try to exchange him for Bolton/etc (not just “I’d maybe consider it if they asked and offered a worthy trade”), or force the Republicans’ hand and just be like “ok! Let’s get him in here! Come on down Hunter!” with no demand for an exchange. The Dems could’ve forced the GOP’s hand to either sit through the Hunter Saga and pretend they wanted it while trying to get out of it, or publicly reject the offer outright in the interest of acquitting Trump sooner. Maybe not a “dog finally catches the car” scenario, but a “dog eats a hot wheels car and has a bad afternoon at the vet” scenario. Whatever. If she’d frozen it would be one less surefire Trump voter. (before somebody calls for a probation over this comment, people were actively calling for QAnoners to drink and buttchug bleach the other day)
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A big part will be strong Dem candidates to beat them too. I don’t know much about a lot of likely candidates to run against the vulnerable GOP Senators, but I hope we get people who inspire voters to come out and vote for them.
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Jan 31, 2020 16:13
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Promoted Pawn posted:I’m sorry, but a little help please. What am I looking at here? This is the Chicago Purchasing Managers Index, it "determines the economic health of the manufacturing sector in the Chicago region. A reading above 50 indicates expansion of the manufacturing sector; a reading below indicates contraction." It's created by people in businesses answering surveys about how they're doing.
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"I never thought leopards shut ME out in the cold," sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Shutting People Out in the Cold Party.
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Jan 31, 2020 16:14
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Literally Kermit posted:If I wanted to subscribe to a philosophy that was okay with letting people suffer and die when they clearly didn't need to, I would have registered and voted for Republican. Well, I can tell you from experience it feels really loving cathartic when the target is the ghouls themselves, for one. I consider that a big pro.
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Promoted Pawn posted:I’m sorry, but a little help please. What am I looking at here? It's a fed inflation index for stuff people who do manufacturing buy. Stuff like employment, supplies, capex, wages. 50 is neutral, over indicates expansion and under is contraction. The Dallas region is very sensitive to things like oil so it's not a great broad indicator. Chicago region is generally pretty reflective of manufacturing and imports generally. This is a huge miss, which means businesses surveyed for the metric got a lot more cautious than expected, pretty suddenly Edit: my anecdote on this was that I suddenly got several construction contractors to cut costs with very little prompting
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Is the knowing Republican voter a lower form of life than the wild animals who have no knowledge or interest in the dualities of existence? Yes is the answer. Do you show concern for the dead rabbit you drive past on the way to work? Less needs to be given to the antithesis of life, better known as a boomer.
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Because we are in hellworld the recession will probably start right after the election either making sure that Trump never has the pay the price for it OR destroying the agenda of the new D president.i am harry posted:Is the knowing Republican voter a lesser form of life than the wild animals who have no knowledge or concern for the dualities of existence? Yes is the answer. Do you show concern for the dead rabbit you drive past on the way to work? Less needs to be given to the antithesis of life, better known as a boomer. I would have much more empathy for wild animals freezing to death than chuds.
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Jan 31, 2020 16:18
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Literally Kermit posted:If I wanted to subscribe to a philosophy that was okay with letting people suffer and die when they clearly didn't need to, I would have registered and voted for Republican. I'm not going to wish specific death on most of them, but I'm also not going to feel sad if they do die. Unavoidable suffering is bad, suffering that could have been averted but wasn't is even worse. Their suffering out in the cold is entirely self-inflicted.
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For the record i don't actually want that woman to die. But boomers and silents dying off is generally good for the country
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Literally Kermit posted:If I wanted to subscribe to a philosophy that was okay with letting people suffer and die when they clearly didn't need to, I would have registered and voted for Republican. The problem is that you've been duped by the propaganda that aggressively fighting back is becoming a "ghoul" like they are. You also seem to think that a given tactic has the same moral value regardless if what it is in service of.
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The best part of this upcoming acquittal is Trump is too stupid to just lay low and let everyone forget about it. He'll crow about it constantly, brag about getting all (or almost all) of the GOP senators to vote for him, and say they never had anything on him to begin with. After the Mueller report fizzled, his ukraine plot began the next day. He's going to do other things, it's just a matter of how many hours until they start. Every campaign ad in the fall needs to be these republicans supercut with Trump bragging about getting away with it contrasted with whatever new crime has been unearthed.
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oxsnard posted:For the record i don't actually want that woman to die. But boomers and silents dying off is generally good for the country No joke, my snowbird grandmother died a couple months before the midterms, and it took all the self-control I could muster to not do a touchdown dance right there in the cemetery during the ceremony. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1223263324319768576?s=20 Translation: "Please, please stop talking to me and asking me or I might accidentally reveal the lucrative lobbying job/big pile of money that was offered to me in exchange for my vote".
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Ershalim posted:I think the mistake that most of us make, me included, is that we assign too much significance to what happens -- that is, in a way that the body politic doesn't. The truth is likely that it doesn't really make a difference one way or another that Susan Collins decided to give herself cover by saying she'll vote for witnesses before she ultimately votes to acquit in a coordinated vote with McConnell. The thing people want, in general, is for political news to be entertaining. Collins' prevaricating bullshit is not entertaining, and so she's losing ground and has no "good choices" because of the people who know who she is, the majority find her more annoying than interesting. I see your point and mostly agree, M. Ershalim. But, I must confess that I stopped being a Democrat long ago. I don't see any real differences between Democrats and Republicans, other than the way they manipulate social constituencies into voting. The two-party duopoly has worked against labor and democracy since the country's inception, and the two parties have inverted from time to time without much repercussion. I'm thinking that another inversion is imminent; Republicans are seeing value in populism, and Democrats are clinging to Clintonesque elitism. In any event, UBI. LOVE, VITALIS
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WorldsStongestNerd posted:The problem is that you've been duped by the propaganda that aggressively fighting back is becoming a "ghoul" like they are. You also seem to think that a given tactic has the same moral value regardless if what it is in service of. Yeah. And remember they are a minority who is ruling the rest of us and they are fundamentally illegitimate.
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Last night I had the most bizarre political experience at dungeons and dragons, which was really showing how nuanced random people's political opinions are. STD Doctor from New York English Professor from Midwest Alabama native 19 year old army guy Chicago Jewish podcaster looking man Biracial guy from Detroit Very diverse group. The English Professor came in saying "I'm so mad right now I don't even want to explain why... They need to take all the Chinese people and send them back!" I'm like "Uhh that's problematic, could you elaborate please?" I thought she was being xenophobic about Coronavirus. She explained our University was doing this program to grift rich Chinese parents to get them to send their kids to us for exhorbitant sums a year early, and after spending a year in America they get a waiver for some language test and don't have to take it, then end up in her Comp 101 classes not knowing any English because the University isn't actually teaching it to them, it's relying on their year of immersion. Except they are a bunch of 18 year old rich kids hanging out only with each other so they don't actually learn anything at all and come into our University without any ability to take classes. So a lot less xenophobic than I thought but also said in about as racist a way as you possibly could. Later the army kid said something about humanities degrees being worthless and people shouldn't expect to be bailed out when they get them. The older doctor pauses the game and says "Actually they are incredibly loving important. I deal with a lot of guys from Atlanta, and you know the reason it's the number one STD hub in the country? There have been studies and research on this, this is science! It's all the loving racism and homophobia which causes ignorance and makes people keep things hushed! This had been proven. The humanities are important for exposing this and educating people to understand each other so we can get past things like this. Racism is literally causing disease!" I'm like "hell yeah". And then he says "Now of course I loving hate Cornel West, but humanities are important". Then like 5 minutes later he says to our biracial dm about something else "You get it. You're like 7 different races right?" And he's like "Uhhh... I'm half black and half white dude." After the game the Jewish guy stood there kind of wide eyed just looking back and forth as a couple people debated whether Hitler was chaotic evil or lawful evil. Of course the game had drow in it which is a whole thing racially, and sexist because the one matriarchal society is super evil and the professor talked about that. It was a wild loving experience. And from it all at various points I would think I could peg where people stood politically but then they would say or do something totally the opposite of what I thought. Labor unions even came up. Been playing for months with this group and it was the most political any of them have ever been. This is a rambling story going nowhere by all this to say drat people have complex and contradicting ideas on politics, gender, and race.
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FizFashizzle posted:The best part of this upcoming acquittal is Trump is too stupid to just lay low and let everyone forget about it. He'll crow about it constantly, brag about getting all (or almost all) of the GOP senators to vote for him, and say they never had anything on him to begin with. I'm pretty sick of the "They're trying to undo an election! Let the people decide!" They decided in 2018 to elect a house that flies in his face, still doesn't matter.
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Faustian Bargain posted:I wish I had that tweet about Trump somehow slipping out of whatever jam he's in and nevertheless. Trump is never going to be held accountable, no matter what comes out. I don't give a poo poo about Trump never being held accountable; it just is what it is at this point. The senators that made it possible? Yeah, that's very much an interest of mine.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Well, I can tell you from experience it feels really loving cathartic when the target is the ghouls themselves, for one. I consider that a big pro. I didn't say I don't enjoy seeing someone slam their own dick in a door, but I don't entirely shut off my empathy for them, either. I'm all too aware they project their fear and urge to betray on me and many others, but I'm not going to call them 'scum' and wish them death. I would very much wish socialism on them, instead. They suffer more that way. Edit: John Wick of Dogs posted:Last night I had the most bizarre political experience at dungeons and dragons, which was really showing how nuanced random people's political opinions are. For the briefest of moments, I read their occupations as some sort of weird homebrew classes.
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FizFashizzle posted:The best part of this upcoming acquittal is Trump is too stupid to just lay low and let everyone forget about it. He'll crow about it constantly, brag about getting all (or almost all) of the GOP senators to vote for him, and say they never had anything on him to begin with. I honestly don't think an impeachable crime was committed. Trump is despicable and a poor example of a human male, but that isn't actually an impeachable offense for U.S. presidents; if it was, Reagan-Bush-Bush would have been impeached as well. (I omitted Clinton because he was appropriately impeached, albeit for the wrong reasons). Democrats are every bit as bad as Republicans--but less effective, and more inclined to bow to Hollywood to interpret policy. They wasted the first Trump term by feeding cable news networks and avoiding real issues of wealth disparity, tax policy, climate change, and technological change. That's how I see it, anyway. LOVE, VITALIS
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FizFashizzle posted:I don't give a poo poo about Trump never being held accountable; it just is what it is at this point.
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I don't agree. No president should answer a Congressional subpoena after this, but the next Democratic administration is going to feel a lot of pressure to revert to rules-following and norms-respecting and (with the possible exception of Bernie) they'll be inclined to do it. It's the Globetrotters/Generals conundrum from upthread.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Last night I had the most bizarre political experience at dungeons and dragons, which was really showing how nuanced random people's political opinions are. Does the biracial guy not have a profession? Also that comment about Chinese students is unfortunately pretty par for the course in most academic settings, even in "progressive" departments. Schools love the money they can get by accepting a bunch of international students but very rarely want to do the work of integrating them fully as students or ensuring that faculty are actually prepared to teach and mentor them. We had to have an informal faculty session on pronouncing foreign language names in my department because several professors were either butchering people's names or refusing to even try and assigning international students "American names".
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Vitalis Jackson posted:I honestly don't think an impeachable crime was committed. Trump is despicable and a poor example of a human male, but that isn't actually an impeachable offense for U.S. presidents; if it was, Reagan-Bush-Bush would have been impeached as well. (I omitted Clinton because he was appropriately impeached, albeit for the wrong reasons). Yeah your whataboutism doesn't work when there are literally thousands of examples of Republicans rolling back the last administrations actions on things like "health care" and "FDA" standards. Nobody buys the "they are the same thing" argument from someone who is blatantly trying to justify their Trump vote.
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Mat Cauthon posted:Does the biracial guy not have a profession? I don't know his profession. Or the podcaster looking guy's. I just know the other ones because it impacts what time they are available for the game
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Vitalis Jackson posted:I honestly don't think an impeachable crime was committed. Trump is despicable and a poor example of a human male, but that isn't actually an impeachable offense for U.S. presidents; if it was, Reagan-Bush-Bush would have been impeached as well. (I omitted Clinton because he was appropriately impeached, albeit for the wrong reasons). Here it is. I've read hundreds if not thousands of pages of USPOL threads over the past few years and this has to be the worst take I've ever seen.
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Rosalind posted:Here it is. I've read hundreds if not thousands of pages of USPOL threads over the past few years and this has to be the worst take I've ever seen. These chuddites always flock to the thread to gloat whenever something like this happens. It is predictable and pathetic.
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Vitalis Jackson posted:I honestly don't think an impeachable crime was committed. Trump is despicable and a poor example of a human male, but that isn't actually an impeachable offense for U.S. presidents; if it was, Reagan-Bush-Bush would have been impeached as well. (I omitted Clinton because he was appropriately impeached, albeit for the wrong reasons). thatsbait.gif
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Faustian Bargain posted:Really? Why? Conservative states have disproportionate power because of the senate allocations, and they love their senators supporting Trump. Why do you think they are so afraid of him turning on them? Impeachment was always a pipe dream, and the government was set up that way. It's fun to think about Trump getting run out of office, but for the majority of GOP senators that would be suicide. For the Senators with upcoming elections, it would be suicide in their primary. For GOP Senators in swing states that have to worry about a primary then heading into a likely wave election year, it's a poo poo sandwich that all of them are about to bite in to. Those Senators are! Cornyn Collins/Loeffler Perdue Gardner Collins Tillis Graham McSally and just toss McConnell in there for fun but I refuse to believe that Republican/GOP support is baked in; even Trump's numbers are fairly in line with what Romney and McCain got in terms of absolute vote. The Democrats are all about getting people to vote. Bernie or not, just voting against trump is going to drive turnout to the highest levels we've seen since 2008. And all those senators that made this possible need to be tossed out on their asses. Everyone that works with Trump gets burned. I don't see any reason why these ghouls should be any different.
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Literally Kermit posted:Every election year there's less boomers and more new voters. And even though chuds do self-replicate, I feel that they're more out-gunned than they think. Yes and water continues to be wet. You think they don’t know these things? Every few years they get a think tank to publish a study keeping track of that poo poo and offering a game plan in the same way that fossil fuel companies have been closely tracking and extrapolating the physical effects of climate change on their own infrastructure and operations for decades while working to discredit climate consensus. Chud voters may convince themselves that they’re the “real America” or whatever and that it’s still 1980 but the people who hold office and control the purse strings and crunch the numbers have known what’s up since they invented the Southern Strategy and courted the evangelical vote in order to stave off demographic irrelevance. Fritz Coldcockin posted:Sure can. And I know a certain billionaire who might actually be able to use his money in just such a service. Steyer is more our guy. Bloomberg deserves zero blindfolds for his mayoral policy decisions alone. Literally Kermit posted:If I wanted to subscribe to a philosophy that was okay with letting people suffer and die when they clearly didn't need to, I would have registered and voted for Republican. Nah. If a buttload of racist white American olds who wanna see people who look like me die in the desert got coronavirus and choked on their own inflamed lungs the country would be measurably better. Guess I’m gonna go get my food at the local graveyard now cuz I just enrolled in Ghoul School chump  John Wick of Dogs posted:Last night I had the most bizarre political experience at dungeons and dragons, which was really showing how nuanced random people's political opinions are. This is like the script for a short film or one-act. PM me if you wanna collab. Also the most racist profs I’ve met have all been English professors. Tenured English profs include a lot of former rich kids turned academics who are salty about the “decline of western culture” because their departments want to teach more Toni Morrison and less James Fenimore Cooper. Also English professorship = maximum sexual harassment potential to-actual academic expertise, particularly if your forte is making poo poo up out of terms you’ve heard from other disciplines and passing it off as critical theory. Did I tell you my non-biology degree was in English?
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