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Mahoning posted:Not a single Bernie oppo dump has lasted more than a day or so. Their failed attempts are just immunizing larger and larger portions of the voting population to the bullshit and hardening Bernie's support. I don't think they can stop him. I know I'm crazy for being optimistic but like. gently caress. It really feels like it might happen. It's such a scary, hopeful, desperate, depressing, hosed up time to be the kind of person that actually follows this poo poo regularly. I keep finding myself getting really pissed off at people I know that just can't be hosed to care about it, to the point that I really just don't even want to be around people like that even if they're otherwise cool. Like how can this poo poo not matter to you? How can it just be a side note? Ugh this country sucks. oxsnard posted:Almost 50 percent of Dem voters were cool with Bernie last time. I think people are mostly afraid he'll lose to Trump, but once we get going it should snowball from there If this loving talking point doesn't disappear after Bernie wins by 15+ points in Iowa and NH back to back then...well, it won't, because the DNC is addicted to losing. But this is just a pre-emptive 'come the gently caress on'
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Vox Nihili posted:Every non-billionaire campaign's COH looks a bit low. Bernie is better off but not exactly swimming in dough. I'm hoping his January numbers are impressive; we goons are certainly doing our part. willa prediction: He's gonna pull in more from January than all of Q4 of last year.
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Feb 1, 2020 05:19
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Willa Rogers posted:willa prediction: He's gonna pull in more from January than all of Q4 of last year. I'm expecting this as well. Especially since people have been rage donating with all these dumbass attacks. Every time Hillary alone opens her mouth the campaign probably gets $1 million+.
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Feb 1, 2020 05:24
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Willa Rogers posted:willa prediction: He's gonna pull in more from January than all of Q4 of last year. that would be nuts, but that warren situation really drove some serious donations
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Feb 1, 2020 05:30
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You mean Tlaib, speeches stick to your rib? I mean- That's my favorite tweet-vid that I play in my crib I mean-
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Feb 1, 2020 05:41
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Neera having a normal one. https://twitter.com/neeratanden/status/1223449940640305152
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Mahoning posted:Not a single Bernie oppo dump has lasted more than a day or so. The problem is that Bernie is exactly what he appears to be, and he doesn't have any "skeletons" that aren't so mild that they border on endearing. He's also been incredibly good at genuinely improving in areas where he's weak and completely ceding his platform to give a voice to others Basically, he's super genuine and literally no one knows what to do about it. You can fight him, but you have to do it in a straight up pitched battle on policy and ideology. That's a risky game for Democrats, because if you do that then at some point you're going to have to admit that you just flat out don't believe in popular policy proposals like universal healthcare.
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Wiltsghost posted:Neera having a normal one. Her tweet about how Tlaib's statement was actually "white male rage" was even better. https://twitter.com/neeratanden/status/1223463584694439936?s=21 This person is highly influential in the Democratic Party. 
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Feb 1, 2020 06:25
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Well attacking Bernie for saying the Vietnam War was bad turned out to be a dud, so expect them to go all-in on this Tlaib thing over the weekend. Naturally no one who isn't terminally online will even hear about it and it's probably going to just get Bernie a bunch of donations but that hasn't stopped the libs before.
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The public at large is slowly (very slowly) but surely waking up to the fact that the policies they were told are bad because they're "socialist" or "impractical" or "we can't pay for them" are the policies that will materially benefit their lives and livelihoods. We've already seen shades of it where your average middle-to-lower income GOP voter was adamantly against Obamacare, until they actually got Obamacare and even in its broken state realized it was way better than their previous options of "nothing" and "more nothing", and now it would be political suicide for the GOP to undo it. All it takes is four years of Bernie riding his popularity to push through genuine leftist reforms to see the beginning of a true re-awakening of class consciousness and solidarity in the country. The establishment fears that more than anything else. The ruling class has worked very hard over the last several decades to divide the population along lines of ideology and morality to weaken class solidarity. Your rank and file DNC regular would rather see Trump become god king of the country and keep the socio-economic status quo than four years of a successful Bernie presidency causing liberal voters to realize neo-liberalism and capitalism were the primary causes of their hardships and embracing leftist candidates instead of the DNC elite. If Bernie wins Iowa and carries that momentum into other states, expect their attempts to ratfuck him to accelerate. Whether that's in the form of letting super delegates vote first ballot, or encouraging Bloomberg to run as a third party candidate, or adopting the Tory model that was used to smear Corbyn and just try to paint Bernie as something he's not by bombarding the public with the same message through almost all media channels, the rich fucks who want to burn the world to a cinder so they can sip fine wine on their yachts for a couple more years will do everything they can to preserve their power. Go donate to Bernie. Canvass for Bernie. Donate to other downballot leftist candidates who are trying to to break the DNC's stranglehold. There's a good list of them here. Do everything you can to spread the word and make sure people who aren't in total lockstep with Bernie like most of the people in this thread aren't going to waver under the incoming bombardment of misinformation and ratfuckery.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Well attacking Bernie for saying the Vietnam War was bad turned out to be a dud, so expect them to go all-in on this Tlaib thing over the weekend. Naturally no one who isn't terminally online will even hear about it and it's probably going to just get Bernie a bunch of donations but that hasn't stopped the libs before. I hope they do since it’ll blow up in their loving faces even worse than usual. They’re still screaming “white bros” at this. 
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https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1223444750453346305 https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1223365410348728321 Well, at least you acknowledge he's totally gonna win so maybe you're not a complete lost cause
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Feb 1, 2020 06:57
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nooooooo don't hit us back! TEACHER!!!!!!!
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Feb 1, 2020 07:01
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Nobody loving likes Hillary Clinton.
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Feb 1, 2020 07:02
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Destruction to the enemies of Bernie Sanders.
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How could anyone like Hilary Clinton? It’s like people who like marmite or condensed milk because they’ve never been allowed anything else.
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Feb 1, 2020 07:05
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Bernie added a section to his platform for disability issues about eliminating Electronic Visit Verification. This is a big issue for all of us that use self directed care to hire our personal care assistants. It's a required system of electronic monitoring that tracks the disabled like someone on parole or probation. He's the only candidate to address this and this is the biggest single issue for most of us.
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Feb 1, 2020 07:06
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If you want to attract center-right voters like they've been saying we need to do for years, you really can't go wrong with a message of "gently caress Hillary Clinton".
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Paradoxish posted:The problem is that Bernie is exactly what he appears to be, and he doesn't have any "skeletons" that aren't so mild that they border on endearing. He's also been incredibly good at genuinely improving in areas where he's weak and completely ceding his platform to give a voice to others If Warren had kept the mask on for a few more months she could have undermined Bernie enough to matter. But I guess her corporate overlords demanded a show of fealty and she couldnt let something like winning get in the way of proving her loyalty. She started dropping around the time she walked back her M4A support
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:How could anyone like Hilary Clinton? It’s like people who like marmite
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Feb 1, 2020 07:17
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When you're all there, and what's there is completely cognizant of your surroundings. https://twitter.com/emilyelarsen/status/1223430107064389636
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Feb 1, 2020 07:19
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Reminder that Hillary Clinton still hung out with Harvey Weinstein and took his money even after both Lena Dunham and Tina Brown warned her that he was a rapist.
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Feb 1, 2020 07:21
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Biden's money situation is not great https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1223454182851481601
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Biden spent a shitload of money on that Iowa steak-fry.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Biden's money situation is not great Actually, I think it's extremely great
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Sanders most cash on hand even after spending a bunch, hell yea
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Mahoning posted:Not a single Bernie oppo dump has lasted more than a day or so.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:How could anyone like Hilary Clinton? It’s like people who like marmite mods?
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Marmide is just msg and salt how can you hate that???????
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:I don't know. The Vietnam poo poo worries me and might have legs. Particularly in Iowa I could see it making a difference. Iowan Democratic voters are very anti war
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Iowan Democratic voters are very anti war
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Nobody likes war anymore and everyone knows that Vietnam was a horror show. I'd be more worried about a Palestinian woman asserting herself when it comes to dumb voter feelings about things
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:I find that kind of hard to believe. Why do you think this is so? Cause someone posted it a bunch of pages ago and whatever the last thing I read is true
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Willa Rogers posted:willa prediction: He's gonna pull in more from January than all of Q4 of last year. Man I forgot the Warren sexist attack from a thousand years ago was in January. And the 850-year old "nobody likes him" comment raised $4mil in two days.
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oxsnard posted:Nobody likes war anymore and everyone knows that Vietnam was a horror show. I'd be more worried about a Palestinian woman asserting herself when it comes to dumb voter feelings about things
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Last I checked, Americans do not look back fondly on the Vietnam War.
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exquisite tea posted:Man I forgot the Warren sexist attack from a thousand years ago was in January. And the 850-year old "nobody likes him" comment raised $4mil in two days. I work in a convenience store and have had a lot of people expressing surprise about Kobe's death still being in the news and I've basically been going "I know these days everything tends to get pushed out by some other ridiculous thing in less than a day but in The Before Times that was how the news usually worked."
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Corbeau posted:Last I checked, Americans do not look back fondly on the Vietnam War. Yeah i mean Forrest Gump sets the standard for milquetoast media designed to be consumed by all American demographics and even that movie poo poo on Vietnam as a horror show that broke people
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Corbeau posted:Last I checked, Americans do not look back fondly on the Vietnam War. Point being that you can't say that American soldiers did stuff that was almost as bad as loving Hitler without raising a few eyebrows. Because that means that US soldiers are - what - almost like loving Nazis? Don't underestimate the number of kinda center-left Xers in Iowa right now who were planning to vote for Bernie and are now reading that statement and putting it together and going "what the gently caress? we fought against the Nazis  " and now they're giving Warren or Buttigieg another look.Like obviously they've been waiting to drop this until just before Iowa, and here it is, and... I don't know. It feels like it's got more legs than anything else they've tried this month. Rogan, Warren, Hillary, Hillary again, and so on: none of that poo poo hurt Bernie at all and probably helped him. This is the first thing that feels like it might have a significant negative impact.
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