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Parrotine posted:This is pretty bang on.
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ManBoyChef posted:I dunno. I used to be an errand boy as my second job for a person that owned a bunch of restaurants in Syracuse. He had a parrot and that bird was such an rear end in a top hat. He always wanted to "hang out" and by that I mean climb on me, bite me, and squawk in my ear. He also always made a huge mess, which I didn't really mind as he is an animal, but the rest was upsetting.
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Nix Panicus posted:A good start, yeah, but the justice dems are actively hated by the party proper Good, two birds with one stone
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empty whippet box posted:Is daydreaming about it ok? Because holy poo poo do I daydream about horrific violence against rich people, all day, every day, constantly, unendingly. I pray to gods I don't believe in that great suffering befalls them, just in case. Who doesn't do this?
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Inferior Third Season posted:Sounds like you had an even shittier boss than most, but why did you think the parrot was an rear end in a top hat? The bird was just a dick. He would act like he wanted you to pet him and when you would come over he would bite you. He would also always try to climb on you and bite your face. Everytime I was over there doing stuff for them the bird would follow me around because he was just loose and they had these weird post things everywhere and he would just sit and squawk. I couldn't even listen to my headphones because of how loud he was. I use to relish the days that I had to do a driving errand because i didn't have to take the bird with me. I would hear his hideous shrieking in my nightmares.
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ManBoyChef posted:This is what blows my mind. Fox news and RW email chains, hate radio, and webpages have poisoned so many people with disinformation. Its freaking astounding what these poeple believe. I was listening to C-SPAN callers (my first mistake) and I had my mind blown about how these people think about the country. I am really worried if we don't do something about the RW propaganda machine this will be how it always is. We live in times that if one wants to stay in an echo chamber they can and sometimes those echo chambers are so incredibly damaging to the country. What do you think we could do about this? Only old people watch Fox News, and the demographic shrinks every year We just have a gently caress TON of olds, but it is a self solving problem tbh
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A friend of mine said something interesting. He reckons Barr is trying to make himself King. Edit: to clarify, Trump is the idiot king and Barr is a Neo-Hoover. Foul Ole Ron fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Nah, Barr is looking to make Republican presidents king and himself their vizier. He's pretty explicit in his extreme radical interpretation of unitary executive powers, and it's just a really good inference that he would only apply that to Republicans since that's how authoritarian-crossing-into-fascist governments work.
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bird food bathtub posted:Nah, Barr is looking to make Republican presidents king and himself their vizier. He's pretty explicit in his extreme radical interpretation of unitary executive powers, and it's just a really good inference that he would only apply that to Republicans since that's how authoritarian-crossing-into-fascist governments work. Why bother just with that though, he has all the info, he has all the dirt, he does not need to be president, he just needs to have enough to control them. All the investigations and links to Russia and potential theorised kompromat that was gathered up to this point... is in his hands now. On Trump, on the republicans, all of them. Let that sink in. All he has to do is keep the idiot king in power and he can do what he wants. Foul Ole Ron fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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ManBoyChef posted:The bird was just a dick. He would act like he wanted you to pet him and when you would come over he would bite you. He would also always try to climb on you and bite your face. Everytime I was over there doing stuff for them the bird would follow me around because he was just loose and they had these weird post things everywhere and he would just sit and squawk. I couldn't even listen to my headphones because of how loud he was. I use to relish the days that I had to do a driving errand because i didn't have to take the bird with me. I would hear his hideous shrieking in my nightmares. The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Impeachment Thread: I would hear his hideous shrieking in my nightmares
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So I don't think Schumer will do amendments and go straight to wrapping it up. I would prefer he did just so it drags through the SOTU. The vote will be along party lines unless something ridiculous leaks but even then we know how that will go.
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ManBoyChef posted:This is what blows my mind. Fox news and RW email chains, hate radio, and webpages have poisoned so many people with disinformation. Its freaking astounding what these poeple believe. I was listening to C-SPAN callers (my first mistake) and I had my mind blown about how these people think about the country. I am really worried if we don't do something about the RW propaganda machine this will be how it always is. We live in times that if one wants to stay in an echo chamber they can and sometimes those echo chambers are so incredibly damaging to the country. What do you think we could do about this? I left the country 11 years ago and have no intention of returning, so I'm probably not the best person to ask.
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Scooter_McCabe posted:So I don't think Schumer will do amendments and go straight to wrapping it up. I would prefer he did just so it drags through the SOTU. The vote will be along party lines unless something ridiculous leaks but even then we know how that will go. What options does he have? Can't Mitch force a vote on this whenever he wants; because apparently being Senate Majority Leader apparently makes you Old Testament God, because of a lack of planning from old guys in 1789?
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/01/politics/impeachment-watch-january-31/index.html can't wait for him to scream eternal presidency.
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Idk, what bugs me the most, at least based on RW poo poo I see online, is how much your average Republican Joe views politics as a way to offend and upset others. I rarely see forwards or memes or whatever arguing any points of fact or anything, it's all poo poo like "I was going to dress up as a Democrat for Halloween but couldn't get my gead up my rear end", and poo poo like pics of devil Hillary attacking superhero Trump as he rushes babies from her demonic gaze. Anythingbthat is based on data is usually completely fabricated snd unsourced. They don't really seem to care what policies their reps support, and seem to have absolutely no knowledge of their voting records. Almost all vote R no matter what because they always have, and even if Republicans gently caress them over hard, they are slaves to that tradition. They just like seeing liberals get upset. It's the rolling coal of politics. I don't think there's really a way to reason with people like that.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/01/politics/impeachment-watch-january-31/index.html I stand corrected, I thought Rs could see the writing on the wall that trump is a liability and 100% willing to betray anyone for any selfish reason. But they still vote in lockstep to protect him. It doesn’t make any drat sense.
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The Bible posted:Idk, what bugs me the most, at least based on RW poo poo I see online, is how much your average Republican Joe views politics as a way to offend and upset others. It's football to them. That's it. Also the grand majority of them are racists or bigots of some kind or in some way, so people suffering arouses them. Scum, all of them
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red19fire posted:I stand corrected, I thought Rs could see the writing on the wall that trump is a liability and 100% willing to betray anyone for any selfish reason. But they still vote in lockstep to protect him. It doesn’t make any drat sense. trump is only a liability to people in not blood red areas, and the party decided way back in 2012 that their solution to all their problems is to double down on the xenophobia and white rage
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TulliusCicero posted:It's football to them. That's it. Turns out when neither party is interested is promoting policy that will actually help people, they gravitate towards knocking down others as a way to cope
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oxsnard posted:Turns out when neither party is interested is promoting policy that will actually help people, they gravitate towards knocking down others as a way to cope I don't understand why the average citizen thinks any of our politicians give a poo poo about them. poo poo, some literally deify Trump. Like, suggesting he might legit be the Second Coming of Jesus, or one of the witnesses in Revelation.
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Scooter_McCabe posted:So I don't think Schumer will do amendments and go straight to wrapping it up. I would prefer he did just so it drags through the SOTU. The vote will be along party lines unless something ridiculous leaks but even then we know how that will go. Trump could walk on to the Senate floor and shoot McConnell during a full session of Congress with every single senator as a witness and the Republicans would still vote to acquit. The rule of law is dead and has been for some time.
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The Bible posted:I don't understand why the average citizen thinks any of our politicians give a poo poo about them. Its because the GOP offers a worldview that explains why their life is poo poo, gives them a convenient enemy to focus all of their hate and anger on, and pats their heads and says that really, they're the smart ones. And of course the liberals play right into it by being smug condescending pricks who just call them racist and laugh at their misfortune while doing literally nothing to help them. The only way to fight demagoguery is to offer a competing vision and solution set, and the Democrats as a whole are virulently opposed to having anything to do with the great unwashed masses. Every single non-Bernie candidate in the current election and last election is an empty suit more concerned with decorum and pragmatic incrementalist nothings than actually caring about the problems of the electorate. As a result huge numbers of Americans have completely checked out of politics and the remainder have been brainwashed into thinking the wealthiest country on earth is incapable of doing anything for them and cynicism has set in. Or, to put it another way, if the electorate really is as racist and sexist as all the elitist pearl clutchers at Washington Post make it out to be then we're all hosed and there is no hope. If you want to have any hope for the future at all, you had better pray that 'economic anxiety' is a real thing and then devote every minute to brainstorming how to constructively address it before the brown shirts start marching in the streets
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Nix Panicus posted:Trump could walk on to the Senate floor and shoot McConnell during a full session of Congress with every single senator as a witness and the Republicans would still vote to acquit. The rule of law is dead and has been for some time. Yeah, but it'd only be a 50-49 vote that time. 
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XkyRauh posted:Yeah, but it'd only be a 50-49 vote that time. McConnell would vote to acquit with his dying breath. Also Feinstein and Manchin would vote acquittal in a show of bipartisanship.
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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1223637166011617281 Lol. More leaks.
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With a lot of the talk that has been going around by the Rs on why, if I were to tailor the discussion I'd say that the Senate in fact did not acquit him, because they decided to let the voting populace decide, so he can only be acquitted or removed from the voting populace. Rs decided that yeah he did it, but it's not up to us! Well, use that refrain as a cudgel, note how many say it that voted to acquit him and show that those votes didn't count because they gave that duty to the public.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1223637166011617281 Lol. More leaks. This might just be Trump bragging because he knows nothing will happen to him quote:The filing, released near midnight Friday, marks the first official acknowledgment from the Trump administration that emails about the President's thinking related to the aid exist, and that he was directly involved in asking about and deciding on the aid as early as June.
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Syfe posted:With a lot of the talk that has been going around by the Rs on why, if I were to tailor the discussion I'd say that the Senate in fact did not acquit him, because they decided to let the voting populace decide, so he can only be acquitted or removed from the voting populace. I can't parse this. Are you saying hold the Republicans accountable for their votes or something? Because who are you holding them accountable *to*? This is exactly what their base *wants* them to do. Moderate Republicans that might vote blue don't exist in large enough numbers to matter. Clinton bet her entire campaign on them and look how that turned out. Never Trumpers still voted Republican and will do so again.
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It's not so much about their base as everybody else, to say that those senators said that they wanted the voting populace to decide, that certainly isn't JUST their base. I admit it's poorly explained.
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Nix Panicus posted:Its because the GOP offers a worldview that explains why their life is poo poo, gives them a convenient enemy to focus all of their hate and anger on, and pats their heads and says that really, they're the smart ones. the problem is we have people who are rewarded for acting in bad faith, and no way to prove they're acting in bad faith. trump could lop the head off a live puppy on chroistmas morning on live TV and half the headlines the next day will be "puppy loses head: did dems do enough to save it?" it's the dawn of the internet all over again where "do not feed the trolls" hasn't caught on so there are major news stories about every rear end in a top hat idiot thing every rear end in a top hat idiot says and no one to just get everyone to ignore them. and the same mods that work forces also burn crosses so...we're hosed.
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Nix Panicus posted:Trump could walk on to the Senate floor and shoot McConnell during a full session of Congress with every single senator as a witness and the Republicans would still vote to acquit. The rule of law is dead and has been for some time. If Trump shot the turtle I would begrudgingly forgive Ukraine.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:if you for a moment thought this farce would play out in any other way than it has, then congrats on willingly shackling yourself into plato's cave What prize do you win for being so clairvoyant and also a prick about it? Plenty of reasonable people either didn't realize the Senate could block all witnesses and were surprised to find that out, or thought that the optics of blocking witnesses would be bad enough to force 1 or 2 more defectors. There is a very good chance that Gardner and a few other vulnerable senators just ensured their defeat in November. You acting high and mighty in the aftermath is both childish and unhelpful. Unless your goal is to make people more despondent in reaction to this lovely development, then just shut up. And don't pretend you're just trying to constructively adjust people's expectations because your language 100% doesn't communicate that.
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Midgetskydiver posted:What prize do you win for being so clairvoyant and also a prick about it? not wasting literal days of my life watching msnbc
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InsertPotPun posted:the ACA was a step forward and a very good thing for literally millions of americans and it got turned into an attack. if the democrats voted to give every american $100 the GOP would turn it into an attack ad and there would be youtube videos of chuds burning hundred dollar bills or "obamabucks" The ACA was a bucket of poo poo for millions of Americans forced to buy a private health insurance plan they couldn't afford to use without going bankrupt. It was a glorified corporate give away that came pre-compromised when Obama bargained away the public option even before the voting started. People were right to be outraged by how trash the ACA was. Pushing the ACA as some great thing that the poor who hated it were just too stupid to comprehend is a perfect example of condescending liberal elites making GBS threads on the underclasses. I get that the pre-existing condition coverage was extremely popular for a whole lot of otherwise privileged people who were locked out of coverage, but for many of the working poor the ACA was a disaster
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Raskolnikov38 posted:not wasting literal days of my life watching msnbc Nix Panicus posted:The ACA was a bucket of poo poo for millions of Americans forced to buy a private health insurance plan they couldn't afford to use without going bankrupt. It was a glorified corporate give away that came pre-compromised when Obama bargained away the public option even before the voting started. People were right to be outraged by how trash the ACA was. Pushing the ACA as some great thing that the poor who hated it were just too stupid to comprehend is a perfect example of condescending liberal elites making GBS threads on the underclasses.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:wasting my life watching msnbc Fixed that for you.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:not wasting literal days of my life watching msnbc This is an amazing non sequitur even for someone like you.
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