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i like the repeated hints that mineta's a tactical genius who just never bothers to show it off because he's more interested in t&a
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Blaze Dragon posted:That's only in One's Justice. She has not shown that ability in the series and we have no reason to believe she can do it, that seems like it was just a change in the game to not make her Quirk completely useless in a fighting game. Didn't she copy Camie's mirage and Ochaco's float ability during the crushing of UA?
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Jan 31, 2020 08:15
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Kung Food posted:Didn't she copy Camie's mirage and Ochaco's float ability during the crushing of UA? No. She's just a Ninja. And that she DIDN'T copy Float was important as that's how Deku sussed out she was an imposter when she fell from a height.
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Jan 31, 2020 08:18
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The full version of the OP is out now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXJCV_1Y2Zw
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Jan 31, 2020 18:53
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Since I rely entirely on the subs I have don't really have a handle on the VA accents. Is Camie supposed to have a heavy accent? I'm thinking its supposed to be like a Hokkaido accent, or ditsy gyaru?
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Feb 1, 2020 15:50
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It's the latter. Hence Meat declaring her an idiot, etc.
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Feb 1, 2020 16:47
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They cut a quick. but significant, flashback out of this episode while adding flashbacks for padding. Strange decision. In the manga, when Todoroki says he thinks there's a better way, Bakugo flashes back to overhearing him and Deku in the hallway during the sports festival before letting him try.
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Feb 1, 2020 20:06
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This season's been weird about cutting stuff that's small but important. Spinner learning to drive from video games, Nighteye looking momentarily shocked when he sees Mirio's future, and now this.
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Feb 1, 2020 20:19
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Speaking of which, why did Nighteye use is Foretelling on Mirio before he died right after establishing that his Foretelling wasn't absolute? I mean, I suppose I get the emotional intent, but it still seems a little odd. I guess I'll give it a pass since he's on his deathbed and getting emotional. On an unrelated note: children! 
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Feb 1, 2020 21:23
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Next time, Bakugo Punches Children And Is Sent To Jail!
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Feb 1, 2020 21:33
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I do appreciate how the last arc was centered around Deku saving and befriending a child, and now Bakugo has decided to just blow up a bunch of kids. I wonder how Bakugo would've handled the whole Eri situation, now that I think about it. Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Feb 1, 2020 21:34
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Always fun seeing Bakugo getting bullied by children.
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Feb 1, 2020 21:58
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I do appreciate how the last arc was centered around Deku saving and befriending a child, and now Bakugo has decided to just blow up a bunch of kids. After Deku met Shigaraki in the mall, Bakugo tells him that he should have just gone 100% and killed him* regardless of the consequences or risks. So... probably something like that. * this is the one time I think Bakugo was being literal when he talks about killing someone.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:10
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Nephthys posted:After Deku met Shigaraki in the mall, Bakugo tells him that he should have just gone 100% and killed him* regardless of the consequences or risks. Funny how alike they are in a way. Midoriya is learning that he can't just keep destroying his body for others. If he recklessly throws his all into something to save somebody right now, what happens if he needs to save somebody a few minutes later? Midoriya would be reckless and go 100% and gently caress the consequences to help others. Bakugo would encourage the same but so he could destroy his enemy. As for Bakugo and Eri....do we really think she'd have warmed up to him the way she did to Midoriya? I have severe doubts. It's the asme situation as with Todoroki in the tournament. Bakugo has improved since then but Izuku is still the kind of guy who radiates an aura of compassion that lets you know he cares for you. Bakugo...not so much. I'm pretty sure Overhaul would have killed him dead. I had a similar thought about if Bakugo had been there for the Stain fight. Midoriya, Iida, and Todoroki only lived due to trust and teamwork. Bakugo being there would throw all of that off and probably get them killed. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Feb 1, 2020 22:24
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Bakugo vs Stain would be kind of interesting, though. Bakugo's power makes him really hard to approach, which makes him kind of a poor matchup for Stain - and while he's a hothead, he's not stupid in a fight, so it wouldn't be easy for Stain to force him into a mistake.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:30
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Honestly, even though the series tries to act as if Bakugo is a serious rival to Deku who seemingly has the edge right now.... he kind of isn't. Deku has accomplished so many more feats of heroism than him and IMO if you put Bakugo into the majority of Deku's big moments he'd fail to replicate them. Bakugo would have tried something stupid and died in the mall, he wouldn't impress Stain and would get killed, Muscular would have destroyed him and Overhaul would destroy him and escape with Eri. Theres a reason he's in supplemental courses atm. Bakugo is one of the shittiest heroes in the class.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:53
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Nephthys posted:Honestly, even though the series tries to act as if Bakugo is a serious rival to Deku who seemingly has the edge right now.... he kind of isn't. Deku has accomplished so many more feats of heroism than him and IMO if you put Bakugo into the majority of Deku's big moments he'd fail to replicate them. Bakugou is at the top of the class and the only thing holding him back at all is how he carries himself. That's the only thing. Deku pushed himself past his known limit the last time they fought and Bakugou was prepared to adjust for that. The kid is absolutely bonkers. Yeah he's in this supplemental class, but he's only in it due to how he handled the rescue test, the same test that had the "victims" comment that Bakugou immediately recognized the more serious injuries from the less so, but screwed up by being an asshead. It's fair to argue he'd struggle against Overhaul, but so did literally everyone except Lemillion.
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Feb 1, 2020 23:06
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Bakugo would probably have an easier time against Overhaul than Deku did since he can attack at range and avoid the risk of being touched.
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Feb 1, 2020 23:21
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Yeah but his only way to win would be to knock him out in one go; overhaul's ability to "heal" himself would draw things out, I imagine.
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Shinjobi posted:Bakugou is at the top of the class and the only thing holding him back at all is how he carries himself. That's the only thing. Deku pushed himself past his known limit the last time they fought and Bakugou was prepared to adjust for that. The kid is absolutely bonkers. He's good at fighting and thats about it. He lost the first training fight against Deku because he went nuts with his inferiority complex and would have torpedo'd the practical exam if Deku hadn't of punched some sense into him. He also got his rear end kicked in the license exam by Meatboy and had to have Kaminari bail him out, right before bombing the rescue portion. He also accomplished nothing in the camp battle compared to Deku who took down Muscular and was instrumental in the defeats of Spinner and Moonfish even with his arms shattered. The only thing he's really accomplished is winning the Sports Festival, which even he doesn't recognise as a real victory. I guess he sneak attacked Kurogiri once too. He hasn't accomplished a single heroic thing the whole series and like I said, he'd fail at pretty much every step of Deku's path. Don't get me wrong he has a lot of potential as a hero, but him failing the license exam was completely fair. My point is basically that the series acts as if Deku is trying to surpass him when really Deku is already a way better hero than him. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Shinjobi posted:Yeah but his only way to win would be to knock him out in one go; overhaul's ability to "heal" himself would draw things out, I imagine. I think King Explosion Murder might have a slightly different tactic up his sweaty sleeves.
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One of Bakugo’s more overlooked qualities when he’s on the offensive is that he never lets the other guy stop for breath, so Overhaul would probably wind up frantically laying down walls between the two of them just so he can patch himself up Of course, what most people see as a wall Bakugo sees as shrapnel-in-waiting
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Feb 1, 2020 23:34
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One on One, Overhaul doesn't make it to round two against Bakugo. Explosions kinda don't miss the way a kick to the head does.
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PMush Perfect posted:This season's been weird about cutting stuff that's small but important. Spinner learning to drive from video games, Nighteye looking momentarily shocked when he sees Mirio's future, and now this. Speaking of Nighteye and Mirio, I have been wondering what he meant by "fine hero." Fine in English can mean both exquisite and adequate. "Fine dining" vs "How was your day? Fine." I watched that scene and was wondering if Nighteye was just trying to cheer up Mirio by seeming to say the former when he actually meant the latter. He didn't say he would get his quirk back, just that he would be fine which leads me to believe he will go on to be a decent quirkless hero. Then I remembered this is Japanese and there might not be the same ambiguous meaning as the translation. Can someone who knows Japanese help?
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Speaking of which, why did Nighteye use is Foretelling on Mirio before he died right after establishing that his Foretelling wasn't absolute? I mean, I suppose I get the emotional intent, but it still seems a little odd. I guess I'll give it a pass since he's on his deathbed and getting emotional. Because regardless of the outcome he saw he still told Mirio he will be a hero, and as far as Mirio knows Nighteye was never wrong.
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Adder Moray posted:One on One, Overhaul doesn't make it to round two against Bakugo. Explosions kinda don't miss the way a kick to the head does. No way. Bakugo could barely keep up with Deku going 8%. Overhaul called 20% Deku a noob and beat him in under a minute. Todoroki also managed to grab and throw Bakugo in their fight. If that was Overhaul, he'd get Magne'd instantly.
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I'm kinda surprised they cut Bakugou recalling he overheard Shoto's backstory.
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Feb 2, 2020 00:49
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Bakugou is good at everything he does except not being an rear end in a top hat. Turns out that makes it pretty hard to be a good hero.
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Dr Subterfuge posted:Bakugou is good at everything he does except not being an rear end in a top hat. Turns out that makes it pretty hard to be a good hero. My thoughts exactly. I'm still trying to figure out what exactly MHA is trying to tell us is the best Hero. I used to think it was All Might; All Might was the ideal the setting sets as the perfect Hero. After Deku's and Bakugo's second fight All Might says a Hero needs more than just Midoriya's altruism. They need Bakugo's pride and drive to be the best. But others have said the series is far more ambivalent on how good All Might was in the end. He did good things and he was a good person but was his Symbol of Peace the best route to take for improving society? No matter how good one guy is, they can't maintain society forever. Maybe All Might did some damage to society, if unintentionally. I don't know if I believe this interpretation. I always remember the scene where All for One exposes All Might's weakened state to the world. In a more cynical work, the masses that adored him would turn on their former champion in a second. That is of course not what happened.Society still loves their All Might. As such, I don't know if I'm really supposed to think of All Might as failing in any sense. That being said, I don't think Izuku needs to improve or change. I don't think pride is necessary for a great Hero even if MHA possibly insists that it is.
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All Might didn't fail. He was a perfect hero. The problem is, a perfect hero's flaw is leaving no room for those beneath them to flourish. So once they're gone, those heroes aren't prepared to carry the load without them. They haven't cut their teeth on any real trouble. He's the oak that casts the smaller trees in its shadow so they never get any sunlight. As for pride? All Might's right. A desire to win is necessary. A desire to save people alone leaves you with a self-sacrificing hero ready to surrender their wellbeing as an easy out. That may save people in the immediate present, but what happens when you're off the board because you're laid up? Or dead? You need to fight to win, not just to rescue.
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Bakugo is just the next Endeavour
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it's been blindingly obvious from the word go that midoriya and bakugo combined have the qualities of all might - altruism/strong sense of justice and overwhelming strength/desire for victory. they're also both lacking in the other's dominant trait and are steadily making up for it with time, with midoriya learning to fight in a way that doesn't tank his own body and bakugo slowly becoming less of a homicidal jackass towards everyone around him i said this a while back and it still holds true - a lot of people so, so badly want bakugo to be the schoolyard bully archetype who's repeatedly humbled until all his rough edges are sanded off, but it's never going to happen. the fact that his peers still reluctantly admire him for his strength and drive (while condemning his dogshit personality) is also one of the things that makes MHA's approach to "heroism" stand out, because it acknowledges that all the doe-eyed good intentions in the world don't measure up to the power needed to see them through. without him around, and especially now that midoriya's not hospitalizing himself with every punch, we'd just have a bunch of interchangeable grinning dopes making determined speeches into the camera
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Fabricated posted:I'm kinda surprised they cut Bakugou recalling he overheard Shoto's backstory. it was a tiny panel in the bottom of a page e: https://i.imgur.com/j7psJ6i.png if anyone wants to see it
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NikkolasKing posted:My thoughts exactly. I'm still trying to figure out what exactly MHA is trying to tell us is the best Hero. To me the lesson MHA is trying to teach is that society can say someone is the best hero all they want, but the hero who matters most is the person who is there for you when you need them. Secondary lessons of "don't try to go it alone" and "even the best make mistakes" But very realistically, its presented in the series that if you want to be the #1 Hero and a symbol of the entire world you need a massive amount of ego and devotion to the drive to work yourself to the bone, and that might not be healthy. Does Izuku need that to be the strongest and best hero? No. But would he need it to be the Superman of the Justice League? Absolutely. I'm still looking forward to the power getting to the point where Midoria is no longer the underdog, where he can find someone nefarious and decide that he is going to punch them now and they stay down. Hopefully he grows to have a little bit of Bakugo's drive to win by that point. M_Gargantua fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Oxxidation posted:i said this a while back and it still holds true - a lot of people so, so badly want bakugo to be the schoolyard bully archetype who's repeatedly humbled until all his rough edges are sanded off, but it's never going to happen. Mostly I just want him to stop showing up or for the series to either give him more than one personality trait, stop shoving him down our throats, or both. :V
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Jackard posted:Bakugo is just the next Endeavour Bakugo would never be satisfied being number one vicariously through his kid. That boy will still be insisting he can make it to the top on his own in his 90s before he's willing to to put his hopes and dreams on someone else.
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Kung Food posted:Speaking of Nighteye and Mirio, I have been wondering what he meant by "fine hero." Fine in English can mean both exquisite and adequate. "Fine dining" vs "How was your day? Fine." I watched that scene and was wondering if Nighteye was just trying to cheer up Mirio by seeming to say the former when he actually meant the latter. He didn't say he would get his quirk back, just that he would be fine which leads me to believe he will go on to be a decent quirkless hero. Then I remembered this is Japanese and there might not be the same ambiguous meaning as the translation. Can someone who knows Japanese help? He says he'll become a "finer hero than anyone else" and the word he uses is https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%AB%8B%E6%B4%BE
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I doubt Overhaul - or even his combined cronies as in the Mirio fight - would have defeated Bakugo in single combat. But Overhaul wouldn't have needed to destroy Bakugo to win, he just needed to destroy Eri. Mirio only lost his own bout because protecting Eri was the priority. Bakugo would not be able to protect a terrified child, and that's exactly what this situation is addressing. It's certainly true that his drive and pride are what Izuku lacks. We discussed earlier in the thread, Izuku could have been training to be a hero his whole life. We've seen plenty of pros in this setting with non-violent powers that have developed fighting styles capable of taking on villains. Sir Nighteye had his stamp-based martial art, Eraserhead has his bandage stuff, not to mention plenty of villains too. Sure, their powers give them the edge, but there's just enough room for someone quirkless to carve themselves a niche that Izuku could well have pursued if he hadn't given up on his dream the moment he discovered he didn't have a cool power. Izuku has had to be dragged through his entire development as a hero. From training his body to receive One For All to learning to use it safely, all of the hard work and practice has happened under the eyes and guidance of the experienced heroes that are putting their faith in him and pushing him to master the skills. Bakugo, by comparison, has been a lone wolf the whole way, from the design of his costume to mastering unique and specialised uses of his power he has become who he is under his own initiative. He has a relentless hunger for glory, and glory is a massive part of what the Symbol of Peace is. All Might was many things. He was invincible, he was indomitable, he was unshakeable. But other heroes are too. Has Endeavour ever suffered a defeat? Does anyone even seriously believe he could? All Might was compassionate, he was charismatic, he was kind. Sir Nighteye certainly idolised that in a hero, it's why he wanted Mirio to be the heir, but the setting is full of beloved heroes that give back to their fans, it's what makes the culture run. Compassion alone didn't make Crimson Riot a superstar. What made All Might work wasn't just having the power of a god or the benevolence of one, he had the presence of one. All Might was everywhere. Everyone had faith in him, and trusted him to protect them. No matter where he was or what he was doing, every villain had in the back of their minds the possibility that they might run into All Might. That is glory, it is hero-worship, and while pursuing that is so much a selfish goal, it is also critical to the Symbol of Peace. Bakugo knows this. Izuku needs to learn it. No one can stand on the top pedestal if they need someone to lift them up to it. This actually ties into the discussion about Stain's philosophy earlier. All Might's Symbol of Peace wouldn't have worked without the culture of celebrity. It's hard to escape the comforting - and terrifying - gaze of All Might when he is literally watching over you from posters, figurines and advertisements all over the country. A lone vigilante on society's fringes doesn't inspire comfort or caution. Even Batman needed to get showy. Tenebrais fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Feb 3, 2020 |
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