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A Moose posted:welp, hopefully soulflayer will still work at the FNM level. At least I didn't spend a lot of money on bad cards. Questing Beast, murderous rider and Sylvan Caryatid can be used other places Just splash hate atm and also either terrible or awesome. It is a cool deck that will stomp anyone not really prepared for it.
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ShaneB posted:We've been modern and pioneer focused since the format dropped. admittedly I hvaen't been listening since I lost my car. You were my go-to podcast to listen to on my way to work.
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Played an Orzhov Heliod Combo brew to the Brussels GP today, 3-4 drop. Didn't see Inverter after seeing little else online, but beat monoblack twice, once by topdecking a plains to execute to combo at 3 life and time up. Also beat an odd aura deck that self mills and uses stuff like Royal Scions to bin auras for the red Theros guy that gets all the auras in the GY when it lands, but just didn't go off. Lots to think about, I'd like to sharpen the deck up for some events tomorrow. Mainly I feel I have to play underwhelming cards at 2cmc, but I got talking into dropping white cards to activate Heliod and using Gifted Aetherborn, who have been great.
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SA MTG thread has some dumb tangents, but I think "microwaved water isn't the right kind of hot" is one of the dumbest one yet.
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Aranan posted:SA MTG thread has some dumb tangents, but I think "microwaved water isn't the right kind of hot" is one of the dumbest one yet. Tea kettle. Almost like a time walk...
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Aranan posted:SA MTG thread has some dumb tangents, but I think "microwaved water isn't the right kind of hot" is one of the dumbest one yet.
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I didn't really notice a change in taste when I was able to go from microwaving my tea to using an electric kettle, but the electric kettle is a massive quality of life improvement. None of that trying to get the time correct or whatever, I just hit the switch and go do whatever else for a while and then at some future point I am able to conveniently pour water at a near-ideal temperatureRinkles posted:pt top 8 I assume that the Top 8 is distorted by Limited rounds, right? How'd Inverter do against the field, was it the bogeyman that people feared?
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Mezzanon posted:Double bant spirits? As I live and breathe! I won Pioneer FNM last night on Bant Spirits, deck is gas when the mana cooperates. I even won it having cast 0 CoCos the whole night!
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JerryLee posted:I assume that the Top 8 is distorted by Limited rounds, right? How'd Inverter do against the field, was it the bogeyman that people feared? Link https://www.minmaxblog.com/magic/2020/1/31/pioneer-pt-deck-stats-win-and-metagame- Dehtraen fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Feb 1, 2020 22:58
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Rinkles posted:pt top 8 WOW heliod IS SO BROKEN WOW
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Dehtraen posted:It did well, but other decks performed better - Sultai Delirium (69%), bant spirits (62%), lotus breech & Heliod company & mono red (58%), and Inverter (54%). The one note would be that a large number of the field was on inverter compared to all the others which had a much smaller metagame share - it was the best performing large metagame share deck but a lot of pros were on it. Niv performed poorly for as large of a meta share that it had These sample sizes all suck honestly. Once we have data from Nagoya I'll feel more confident.
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Getting 54% in a hostile metagame is pretty good, assuming people predicted that it'd be a big deck and tuned against it.
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Sampatrick posted:WOW heliod IS SO BROKEN WOW Ballista is the problem but it looks like they can leave it alone.
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Jabor posted:Getting 54% in a hostile metagame is pretty good, assuming people predicted that it'd be a big deck and tuned against it. Yeah, between Heliod Company and MWD, the combos putting up some pretty decent numbers for being in a presumably hostile meta. That said, Sultai Delirium is putting absolutely nuts numbers up for a deck that is a very known entity in the format. I have to assume that it's Inverter and Mono-black matchuips are both pretty good and a lot of decks just didn't bring anything to deal with it in the face of Inverter/Heliod/Mono-Black Aggro. Or maybe they just thought it was dead post-Oko? (Why, I wouldn't know, since I'd consider any deck that has a reasonable chance to resolve an Emerkul a major threat to keep an eye on, Oko or nOko.) Mr. Locke fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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BizarroAzrael posted:Ballista is the problem but it looks like they can leave it alone. I laugh every time someone calls ballista a problem. 
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This page has a larger dataset with more realistic confidence intervals: https://mtgmeta.io/tournaments/798
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The Lotus Breach data isn't great because the two different builds are very different
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We've definitely covered "no kettles in America???" At least once maybe twice before but "microwaved water doesn't make tea right" is as dumb as that discussion is ever going to get so fingers crossed we never come back here again.
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Jabor posted:Getting 54% in a hostile metagame is pretty good, assuming people predicted that it'd be a big deck and tuned against it. The deck coming out a week before the tournament resulted in a lot of people not really having tuned lists against it - the most tech we were seeing was Gideon of the Trials. Everyone else seemed to be defaulting on graveyard hate being enough against the deck but a number of times on coverage the graveyard hate looked actively bad. Emrakul the Promised End seemed to be a pretty crushing card vs the deck since it could actively set up a loss for the UB deck if the right pieces were in hand Looking forward to the Top 8 tomorrow and also more of the Nagoya coverage
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Feb 2, 2020 03:17
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Reprint Torpor Orb IMO
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C-Euro posted:I won Pioneer FNM last night on Bant Spirits, deck is gas when the mana cooperates. I even won it having cast 0 CoCos the whole night! I’ve also been playing bant spirits in pioneer (gotta stay on brand) and I’m really enjoying it
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I forgot Scooze was legal in Pioneer, surprised it doesn't show up more often considering how popular it is in Modern.
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Toshimo posted:Reprint Torpor Orb IMO I’d love to see Torpor Orb and Cursed Totem reprints into Standard without stapling them into a bad mono-W body.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I forgot Scooze was legal in Pioneer, surprised it doesn't show up more often considering how popular it is in Modern. It's literally the only green 2 drop that gets played.
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ShaneB posted:It's literally the only green 2 drop that gets played. Sylvan Caryatid?
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ShaneB posted:It's literally the only green 2 drop that gets played. Once Upon a Time Abrupt Decay Burning-Tree Emissary Assassin's Trophy
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Satyr Wayfinder
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AlternateNu posted:Once Upon a Time Mono green. Also OUAT is banned. And BTE isn't really played outside of mono green devotion decks which are deadish. Sylvan counts tho. And satyr. But those are in specific decks. The green 2 drops and 2 drops in general are pretty bad in Pio.
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'2 cmc green spell' and 'green 2 drop' aren't the same things. satyr wayfinder is the actual correct rebuttal to that statement, however
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Do we consider these PTs? Or are only Player's Tour Finals PTs?
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AlternateNu posted:No one cares about organized play anymore. Hence microwave chat
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AlternateNu posted:I’d love to see Torpor Orb and Cursed Totem reprints into Standard without stapling them into a bad mono-W body. Torpor Orb is the type of card that will show up as a garbage rare in an upcoming Core Set when they want to introduce it into Pioneer.
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God, getting to ignore someone's Dream Trawler is just so good. My opponent dropped one, said "Good Game" and then I just absolutely wrecked them anyway. Also, no one expects Mystic Repeal. I have gotten a ton of use out of that card and my opponents are frequently mousing over the card in my gy to find out what the hell just happened.
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Two rounds into a Pioneer PTQ and I've not played any Magic yet, just watch Oracle of Thassa solitair. Fair to say Play Design should just be humanly destroyed at this stage.
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Inverter combo was a very well known entity heading into this weekend, what was your game plan for the matchup?
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BizarroAzrael posted:Two rounds into a Pioneer PTQ and I've not played any Magic yet, just watch Oracle of Thassa solitair. Fair to say Play Design should just be humanly destroyed at this stage.
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Play design wasn't even an entity when inverter was made!!!
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mandatory lesbian posted:Play design wasn't even an entity when inverter was made!!! Inverter is not the problematic card, the card that puts an “I literally win the game” trigger on the stack with virtually no counter play, is the issue and this is, I believe, the same Play-Design team that brought us Oko.
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