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sexpig by night posted:Let's not forget the real goal here I want those people to eat all the poo poo. Naturally I'm voting and giving money for a better future but goddamn is that gonna be a great side benefit.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:21
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Vox Nihili posted:Anyone know what time the Selzer poll hits tonight? I know, and so do many others.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:22
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Vox Nihili posted:Anyone know what time the Selzer poll hits tonight? Someone upthread mentioned 8 pm for the des moines register, maybe around then?
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Feb 1, 2020 22:23
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Mellow Seas posted:On the other hand, Warren does things that make no loving sense, constantly. Nah, they make perfect sense if you realize that it's always the option she thought would advance her career the furthest. She gave speeches to the Federalist society when it seemed like Republicans would be in power forever. She switched to the Democratic party when she moved to MA and Clinton was a lock for reelection. She identified as Native American when climbing the ranks of academia, but turned on Native Americam activists when it hurt her politicaly. Every single time inconsistencies in her record perfectly align with what was the most advantageous to her personally. Like doing the whole "unite the left" when in second.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:28
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oxsnard posted:For the record this unity thing from Warren may be pathetic straw grasping, but I think she supports Sanders after dropping out I hate to say it but I think Warren and her delegates play Judas and throw the nomination to Biden (or even worse Bloomberg but I'm not blackpilled enough to predict that)
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Feb 1, 2020 22:34
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I wonder if this is the guy whose wife left him... https://twitter.com/rosenfeld1tmd/status/1223694304452993024?s=21
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Feb 1, 2020 22:43
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icantfindaname posted:I hate to say it but I think Warren and her delegates play Judas and throw the nomination to Biden (or even worse Bloomberg but I'm not blackpilled enough to predict that) Even if she does, supporters aren't required to do as she says.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:44
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Mahoning posted:I wonder if this is the guy whose wife left him... It's the same drat haircut and sweater.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:45
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Mahoning posted:I wonder if this is the guy whose wife left him... I thought it was well established that Bernie is the candidate to support if you want to marry them. 
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Feb 1, 2020 22:46
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Mahoning posted:I wonder if this is the guy whose wife left him... Madonna is doing improv comedy during her shows now, so comedians have to be everywhere no matter what doing their terrible sets so they can get a bump on twitter ,and then it turns out they're loving chuds.
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Mahoning posted:I wonder if this is the guy whose wife left him... https://twitter.com/rosenfeld1tmd/status/1223694304452993024?s=21 https://twitter.com/TPCarney/status/1223659317364187136 Yeah that's the same dude.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:46
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joepinetree posted:She switched to the Democratic party when she moved to MA and Clinton was a lock for reelection. Like, I understand your other points, but not this one. What’s the implication here, and where’s the link between her moving to MA, changing her registration, and Clinton (I’m assuming Bill, not Hillary, given the timeline?) being a lock for re-election?
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Feb 1, 2020 22:48
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Solkanar512 posted:Even if she does, supporters aren't required to do as she says. The one minor upside to this would be that it would at least teach an important lesson to many people, albeit in the worst way possible.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:50
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generic one posted:Like, I understand your other points, but not this one. What’s the implication here, and where’s the link between her moving to MA, changing her registration, and Clinton (I’m assuming Bill, not Hillary, given the timeline?) being a lock for re-election? MA was/is a very Democratic state and there was no downside to switching under a very popular Democratic president
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Not gonna lie I’m getting really nervous about Iowa. At first I’m thinking that Bernie has it in the bag but now I’m wondering if all the olds are gonna panic and go Biden or Warren at the last minute because of this stupid electability argument. I’m seriously fed up with it. It’s dumb there’s no electability for these idiots. Anyone who spends 5 minutes watching Biden can see he’s offering nothing to nobody. Who the gently caress takes an hour of their day to enthusiastically support this clown?
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Kraftwerk posted:Not gonna lie I’m getting really nervous about Iowa. At first I’m thinking that Bernie has it in the bag but now I’m wondering if all the olds are gonna panic and go Biden or Warren at the last minute because of this stupid electability argument. Make some calls if you're worried. No use trying to read the tea leaves.
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Office Pig posted:https://twitter.com/rosenfeld1tmd/status/1223694304452993024?s=21 Exact same clothes too. Holy crap, they didn't even try. Pathetic.
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I wonder how much the DNC paid him for these stunts? Or did he just do it for the exposure?
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Feb 1, 2020 23:00
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generic one posted:Like, I understand your other points, but not this one. What’s the implication here, and where’s the link between her moving to MA, changing her registration, and Clinton (I’m assuming Bill, not Hillary, given the timeline?) being a lock for re-election? I assume the larger point is that Clinton’s re-election signified a resurgence of the Democratic Party on the national stage, so she moved to MA (a Democratic stronghold) to take advantage of that. Not agreeing or disagreeing with that but I understood their point.
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Feb 1, 2020 23:01
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icantfindaname posted:I hate to say it but I think Warren and her delegates play Judas and throw the nomination to Biden (or even worse Bloomberg but I'm not blackpilled enough to predict that) Quoted for truth
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goethe.cx posted:MA was/is a very Democratic state and there was no downside to switching under a very popular Democratic president Ok, and then? Move away from a lovely regressive state to a place more progressive, change your registration... like, I get why she’s a bad candidate, and those other complaints are valid, but I’m not sure why that point was brought up at all. That’s like an every day thing, and I’m not sure what it has to do with Bill being re-elected, unless the implication is that she was anticipating running for Congress in that state 10 - 15 years later. Which, you know, is probably taking precognition a bit too seriously. edit: Mahoning posted:I assume the larger point is that Clinton’s re-election signified a resurgence of the Democratic Party on the national stage, so she moved to MA (a Democratic stronghold) to take advantage of that. Like I replied above. It’s a pretty big leap to suggest that was strategy to jump in the game decades later. I don’t think anyone has that kind of foresight. generic one fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Kawalimus posted:Exact same clothes too. Holy crap, they didn't even try. Pathetic. To be honest he really could just be some weird, pitiful dude who's trying to get life advice from the worst possible people on earth. That said, I can easily see it. Biden: "Look at this loser. gently caress you loser boy, you suck. Me tough, me witty, ooga booga vote 30330" Warren: "Poor incel bro got lost on his way to the Bernie convention. Pity him!"
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Feb 1, 2020 23:05
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Warren became a Democrat because she realized the GOP went totally insane and the Democrats were the more responsible capitalists.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Warren became a Democrat because she realized the GOP went totally insane and the Democrats were the more responsible capitalists. That’s a much more reasonable explanation than anything else.
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Feb 1, 2020 23:07
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Feldegast42 posted:Quoted for truth Any kingmaker scenario like this would tear the party apart. A contested convention would be a disaster for the Democratic party.
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Feb 1, 2020 23:10
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generic one posted:That’s a much more reasonable explanation than anything else. To be clear, it's specifically their relationship with the economy that she had a problem with. All the racism, homophobia, sexism? Not worth caring about for 1995 Elizabeth Warren.
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King of Solomon posted:I don't know if that's how it's used elsewhere, but that's definitely not how Succ is used on SA. Generally speaking, people on SA using succ are talking about centrists and Democratic establishment types, as well as donut twitter or khive assholes. So succdems are people like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Kamala Harris, etc., but also people like that loving horse. Ah, I've mostly seen it (off SA) to use it to refer to people to their left, so like the DSA and Jacobin and groups like that, who have "betrayed the revolution" and that sort of thing.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Warren became a Democrat because she realized the GOP went totally insane and the Democrats were the more responsible capitalists. She says that but I think it's as likely that she was worried about being professionally or personally ostracized for being a Republican in MA. Some people like playing the outsider but Warren very clearly does not. Her switching parties right when the Dems were ascendant and when she moved somewhere that was heavily Dem fits with that. But she definitely wasn't playing the long game and setting up for her Senate run a decade plus later. If we've learned anything about Warren over the past year it's that she lacks any foresight whatsoever.
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King of Solomon posted:To be clear, it's specifically their relationship with the economy that she had a problem with. All the racism, homophobia, sexism? Not worth caring about for 1995 Elizabeth Warren. Uh... I hate to break it to you, but the Dems weren’t so hot on those issues in the 90s, either. Both parties were virtually identical on social issues back then. It was a pretty small segment of the left wing that actually cared about that stuff at the time.
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Paradoxish posted:Any kingmaker scenario like this would tear the party apart. A contested convention would be a disaster for the Democratic party. They keep their wealth and all they lose is a political gig they treat as a hobby anyway.
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Feb 1, 2020 23:33
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People who work marginally in the public have to be registered with the predominant party in that area to advance. I used to work for a public defenders office in FL, and the higher ups were registered R despite the fact that their beliefs and voting history made them dems. So I totally can understand moving to MA and switching parties being a career thing rather than an honest change of opinion. Or maybe being an R in OK was the lie. Either way or does fit the narrative of shameless social climber, especially when paired with the NA lie.
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generic one posted:Uh... I hate to break it to you, but the Dems weren’t so hot on those issues in the 90s, either. Both parties were virtually identical on social issues back then. It was a pretty small segment of the left wing that actually cared about that stuff at the time. you know, would it shock you to hear there's one candidate in this race who actually was not identical and thus should be the only choice for those of us who are worried about dems selling us out to make deals and poo poo?
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Paradoxish posted:Any kingmaker scenario like this would tear the party apart. A contested convention would be a disaster for the Democratic party. yeah, even "bernie goes in with 40 and warren at 25 or whatever, bernie wins second ballot" isn't ideal, if only because it leads to fightin' about whether bernie gave away too much / not enough for his coronation but it beats the heck out of Bernie going in with a strong plurality and then losing for that matter, if it's somehow Biden or somebody that starts with a strong plurality and manages to lose to a Bernie coalition, that's good news from a policy perspective but probably not great for the 2020 general
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I'm super, super curious how the second-choice stuff shakes out in the Iowa caucuses, that's going to be pretty informative and hopefully somewhat generalizable to other supporters of [candidate]
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sexpig by night posted:you know, would it shock you to hear there's one candidate in this race who actually was not identical and thus should be the only choice for those of us who are worried about dems selling us out to make deals and poo poo? Guess it’s a good thing I support Bernie Sanders? Doesn’t discount my point, though.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I'm super, super curious how the second-choice stuff shakes out in the Iowa caucuses, that's going to be pretty informative and hopefully somewhat generalizable to other supporters of [candidate] One thing is certain, there will be a lot of Data. Fun for all kinds of folks.
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Facebook has been depressing the hell out of me recently and it's not even the chuds anymore. I've brought this up before, but my wife comes from an upper middle class Jewish family so I interact with some friends of friends now and again. Today I had a Trump Hating Liberal Jewish lawyer casually drop "so-called Palestinians" in an attempt to justify their government's violence. I looked him up and sure enough he's the head of the Democratic committee in a very large US city. gently caress
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oxsnard posted:Facebook has been depressing the hell out of me recently and it's not even the chuds anymore. I've brought this up before, but my wife comes from an upper middle class Jewish family so I interact with some friends of friends now and again. Today I had a Trump Hating Liberal Jewish lawyer casually drop "so-called Palestinians" in an attempt to justify their government's violence. I looked him up and sure enough he's the head of the Democratic committee in a very large US city. 
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