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I'm interested in the HBO series, but I'm going in with pretty low expectations, regarding it as a curiosity more than the definitive experience. That's okay though, because the movie's already fantastic-- I just hope the added material stands up as interesting material in its own right instead of feeling like Star Wars EU stuff that overexplains every little thing from the movies.
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Feb 1, 2020 15:13
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One of the advantages of custom building a house for your movie is that you can make the patio window the same aspect ratio as your film  edit: no wonder why Tarantino likes this guy  Maybe spoilery: 
Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Feb 1, 2020 15:16
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 I love that they’re meeting at the bottom of not one; but two slopes   Walking into the light and uphill  Walking into the light and uphill  Walking into the light and uphill  Walking into the light and uphill    The line:   The line:  The line:  Getting comfortable with her station  Pizza generation  Pizza Generation       
Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Feb 1, 2020 15:58
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Steve Yun posted:edit: no wonder why Tarantino likes this guy That stood out to me too, both for the Tarantino joke (which I made at the time since I watched this with the same person I watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood with), and because she feels no hint of self consciousness about putting her smelly feet near his face while she's making a face about his stench (which, to be fair to her, was probably extremely bad after the night he had).
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Feb 1, 2020 17:54
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Steve Yun posted:Pictures Goddamn, this is a pretty movie.
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Feb 1, 2020 18:27
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Sinteres posted:That stood out to me too, both for the Tarantino joke (which I made at the time since I watched this with the same person I watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood with), and because she feels no hint of self consciousness about putting her smelly feet near his face while she's making a face about his stench (which, to be fair to her, was probably extremely bad after the night he had). This also comes shortly after a few shots of how filthy his feet are.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:54
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There's a lot of what I like to think of as "Kubrick lines," where all the lines of a room point towards a character Mrs Park crossing the line   Feels inspired by American Psycho:   Impossibly tall cabinets:  More aspect ratio and frame stuff:   More aspect ratio and frame stuff:  Good visual gag (spoilers) https://i.imgur.com/aLm8pNx.png https://i.imgur.com/tzewenk.png Entire second floor was greenscreened  More aspect ratio and frame stuff (SPOILERS) https://i.imgur.com/57sPdWG.png Any special meaning to this banana? (SPOILERS) https://i.imgur.com/dwWLwKt.png
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Feb 1, 2020 23:17
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More aspect ratio and frame stuff: https://i.imgur.com/zVAenQs.png Wonderful transition (SPOILERS) https://i.imgur.com/lzf1nml.png Dogs join the fun    Best single movie shot of 2019 (SPOILERS) https://i.imgur.com/VIMsggw.png Food cans turned into shrines to Nelson Mandela, Abraham Lincoln and Mr Park  Marriage certificate, I think? It looks like she was born 1974 and he was born 1977. https://i.imgur.com/ddkLxg3.png Kind of an echo of an earlier couch scene with a different couple?  Anyone wanna take a stab at what the shotput award represents?  Spoilers maybe https://i.imgur.com/YIY9QTM.png https://i.imgur.com/gPFFkGQ.png Lady on the left is reading a bible https://i.imgur.com/FvrIde9.png Nice detail, these people color coordinated their drapes, pajamas, rugs, bed sheets and maybe even their walls  Kijung finds the dress she's going to wear to Dasong's birthday https://i.imgur.com/4frc3vH.png Not sure why but he has a pattern imprinted on his hand like he slept on it wrong or something  minor spoilers https://i.imgur.com/wTEqffl.png Mrs Park crossing the line again  Kiwoo sees an imaginary rich version of himself on the other side of the line  Like the semi-basement, Kiwoo is on the line between upper and lower  Just an impromptu thing, she says  Spoilers, echo of the hot sauce packet? Not sure what the vinegar is supposed to mean if anything https://i.imgur.com/FeSU316.png Not sure what the significance of "cop who doesn't look like a cop and doctor who doesn't look like a doctor" is https://i.imgur.com/QUsRTvR.png PIzza Generation again https://i.imgur.com/NehCa2u.png Echo of Memories of Murder (cops falling on slopes)? spoilers https://i.imgur.com/by8nBfB.png Echo of the opening shot https://i.imgur.com/QC6KYEK.png Echo of the ending of Memories of Murder (somebody pointed out in a youtube that most of Bong's movies pair up in similar endings. Host and Okja end with a family dinner, Memories of Murder and Parasite end with the protagonist looking at the audience, https://i.imgur.com/nqV5Gv0.png Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Feb 1, 2020 23:42
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it's such a gorgeous movie bong is disgustingly talented.
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Feb 2, 2020 00:58
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Holy poo poo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51321661 Semi-basements are real, are common, and were originally built to serve as bunkers in case of an invasion by North Korea. They became living spaces because of a housing shortage It’s a parallel with the rich people bunker
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Feb 2, 2020 11:23
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Man, thanks for posting all this extra stuff! This film has layers, and the more I think about it, the more I appreciate it.
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Feb 2, 2020 16:32
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My favorite scene in this movie was when the Kims were trapped under a table and forced to listen to the Parks roleplay as trashy poor people. Really made me think of the Chris McCandless/Meghan McCain types who fetishize being normal or poor and appropriate aspects of a working class lifestyle, without ever having to subject themselves to its real dangers.
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Feb 2, 2020 23:00
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The kink shaming itt is pretty disgusting.
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Feb 3, 2020 02:36
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Can poverty tourism be described as a “kink”?
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Feb 3, 2020 03:32
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If you’re poor no If you’re rich yes
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Feb 3, 2020 03:41
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Steve Yun posted:If you’re poor no You can apply this quote to anything
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Feb 3, 2020 03:47
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Someone pointed out a theory I found intriguing. Dahye falls in love with her tutors because she’s starved for attention. Dasong gets all the attention because of his trauma and supposed artistic genius. Mrs Park asks Mrs Kim to make ramdon/chapaguri for Dasong, who doesn’t want it. She offers it to her husband who also doesn’t want it. She ends up eating it herself without asking Dahye, who gets mad about it. Such a nice character detail.
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Feb 3, 2020 03:52
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Steve Yun posted:Someone pointed out a theory I found intriguing. Dahye falls in love with her tutors because she’s starved for attention. Dasong gets all the attention because of his trauma and supposed artistic genius. Mrs Park asks Mrs Kim to make ramdon/chapaguri for Dasong, who doesn’t want it. She offers it to her husband who also doesn’t want it. She ends up eating it herself without asking Dahye, who gets mad about it. Such a nice character detail. also despite the backgrounds between her two tutors being different enough for them to percieve themselves, they're both disposable lovers to her, reacting the same way to being put into that role by her (until they escape)
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Feb 3, 2020 17:20
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Steve Yun posted:Someone pointed out a theory I found intriguing. Dahye falls in love with her tutors because she’s starved for attention. Dasong gets all the attention because of his trauma and supposed artistic genius. Mrs Park asks Mrs Kim to make ramdon/chapaguri for Dasong, who doesn’t want it. She offers it to her husband who also doesn’t want it. She ends up eating it herself without asking Dahye, who gets mad about it. Such a nice character detail. Someone posted earlier in the thread that Da-Song is also just acting out from lack of attention, and Ki-Jung is able to "succeed" as art therapist because all she needs to do is properly spend time with him.
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Feb 3, 2020 17:26
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Hand Knit posted:Someone posted earlier in the thread that Da-Song is also just acting out from lack of attention, and Ki-Jung is able to "succeed" as art therapist because all she needs to do is properly spend time with him. Yeah the big thing that visibly impresses Mrs. Park isn't that there is a marked improvement in his paintings or whatever, it's when he is quietly and calmly doing his work and answers politely when Ki-jeong asks him something. She gets this look on her face like "omg he's behaving so nicely, what an improvement!" and it becomes pretty clear what she actually wants isn't some fancy art tutor but basically just a babysitter, which Ki-jeong is doing perfectly well.
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JudgeX posted:also despite the backgrounds between her two tutors being different enough for them to percieve themselves, they're both disposable lovers to her, reacting the same way to being put into that role by her (until they escape) Which is funny, because they both think that they will marry her.
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The Park daughter was interesting to me in that she was just young enough that her sense of class identity wasn’t fully formed—she didn’t seem to grasp the distance between herself and Kim. In fact her attachment to him was the only non familial relationship in the movie that wasn’t directly informed by class stratification.
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Feb 3, 2020 22:06
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Another wrinkle to Dahye: the mom actually DOES ask her if she wants ramdon, but Dahye doesn’t hear because she had her headphones on So Dahye feels like she’s not getting attention because of a misunderstanding There’s just so much going on in this movie Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Feb 3, 2020 |
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Feb 3, 2020 22:37
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Headscratcher: what does it mean that Kiwoo laughs during his arrest, trial and at Kijung’s grave, but doesn’t when watching the news about his dad
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Feb 3, 2020 22:52
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On my rewatches the way I've seen Da-hye is as essentially the outcast of the family, and while she mostly is incapable of critically examining her own privilege, she sometimes is attuned to unfairness in her environment (I.e. da-song's acting.) She mostly views it as people being MEAN to her personally, and when she tells Ki-woo he "belongs" it's out of ignorance to the enormous class differential, but it's also genuine, and her connection with Ki-woo means that unlike the rest of her family she actually saves a member of the Kims at the end of the day.
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Feb 3, 2020 22:52
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Steve Yun posted:Headscratcher: what does it mean that Kiwoo laughs during his arrest, trial and at Kijung’s grave, but doesn’t when watching the news about his dad double post but eh He laughs as a coping mechanism to avoid processing absurd personal circumstances, but he doesn't laugh at the news because of the way the incident and its perps are presented. it's stepping from personal to systemic, a reminder that the case will probably never be truly "solved" inasmuch as "solved" means "recognizing who is truly responsible and burning the system to the ground"
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Feb 3, 2020 22:56
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Very,very,very good movie. Somewhere around the bottom of my top 5 for the year. Memories of Murder still my favorite Korean movie though.
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Just rented this last night. Incredible movie. I know I'm late to the party, but I don't think the take-home message here was that earning $$$$+1 earns you the guillotine, rather that capitalism as a whole leads to the exploitation of those “below” by those above.
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Feb 9, 2020 16:37
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Yeah one of the nuances of it is that I don’t think it criticizes the rich for having money, it criticizes then for their attitudes and behavior
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bong sweep lol
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Feb 10, 2020 05:36
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I don't know if that was all because of this film specifically or also a belated recognition of South Korean cinema in general, but I'm really glad it happened either way.
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Feb 10, 2020 06:19
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dude is getting so drunk rn
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Feb 10, 2020 06:19
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Parasite 100% deserves all the accolades... ...but I literally don't believe it. The vote must have been split something fierce for this to happen. I'll take it, though!
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Feb 10, 2020 07:01
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Just saw this on Saturday, it is great and I didn't see the twist coming but at the same time I definitely didn't expect the movie to end any other way The line imagery is definitely a thing I didn't particularly notice so it's fun looking at stuff like that But there was one thing I couldn't suss out, spoilering because if people hadn't seen it before they might now so I don't want to give them a brainfull- when Chung-sook comes to find Moon-gwang caring for Geun-sae, she's feeding him with a bottle, and then very shortly thereafter, gives him a banana. That's weird enough but watching how Geun-sae eats the banana is extra strange- he sits and eats the banana in a very primate-like manner (well no, I guess primates would take bites, he just deepthroats it). I believe it was poster Steve Yun who pointed out earlier in the thread that "The housekeeper calls the Kims neanderthals" which I'm gonna guess this is sort of hinting that Geun-sae has been ground down to being less than that, and is far simpler (for lack of a better term) in his pursuits (idolizing/being grateful to Mr. Park with wild abandon, despite that he scurries about for scraps, among other realities of his and his wife's life).
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I don't think there's any cultural subtext to that. The biggest thing I think folks would miss if they weren't familiar with life in Korea is that the lead family used to be middle class or better. They reference a bunch of failed business ventures, particularly owning a Taiwanese bakery. People in Korea are often forced into an early retirement by their company and a ton of Korean 50 somethings invest in a chicken place or something similar and then fail. The Taiwanese bakery line places their fall from the middle class as ~2018 (It was a trend that bombed after a news station ran an expose about corner cutting and was only around for a year or two). That explains why the boy's friend was preppy and why they had nice phones. They hadn't been poor for long.
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Doctor Reynolds posted:Parasite 100% deserves all the accolades... Yeah when Parasite took Best Int Picture I thought that was it, no chance of if getting Best Picture. Unbelievably happy for Bong Joon Ho & his cast and crew.
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Feb 10, 2020 08:18
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Eight-Six posted:Just saw this on Saturday, it is great and I didn't see the twist coming but at the same time I definitely didn't expect the movie to end any other way Infantilization of the poor is a thing in the movie, but I should point out that in the Korean audio they didn’t say “Neanderthal” but something closer to bum or scumbag. Neanderthal is only used in the English subtitles. My best guess about the baby bottle and banana is a broad infantilization of the poor message Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Feb 10, 2020 |
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