Coronavirus 2020 - START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!!

The Something Awful Forums > Archives > Comedy Goldmine > The Goodmine > Coronavirus 2020 - START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!!

«‹›2494 »

Doccykins: Feb 21, 2006

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f08e1332473c08b

quote:

In Germany, eight people have been tested positive for the virus so far. Seven of them, five Germans and two Chinese nationals, are employees of car part supplier Webasto, headquartered in Stockdorf, Bavaria. The eighth is the child of one of the employees.

All eight patients were in a �stable clinical condition� and had only shown �flu-like symptoms�, said a spokesperson for the Bavarian health ministry.

Four of the infected Webasto employees had taken part in a training workshop that was run by a Chinese employee who had only started to feel ill on her return flight to China, where she was subsequently tested positive for the 2019-nCov virus.

The company�s headquarters in Stockdorf have been disinfected by experts over the weekend and are to remain closed until Tuesday. 140 further employees were tested for the virus, and 80 of them have been ordered to stay indoors and avoid human contact even though their test results had returned negative.

Lady makes it to Germany for a workshop and only presents symptoms on the way back, good luck everyone

# ? Feb 3, 2020 12:21

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? Jun 3, 2024 12:59

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

Doccykins posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f08e1332473c08b

Lady makes it to Germany for a workshop and only presents symptoms on the way back, good luck everyone

# ? Feb 3, 2020 13:36

fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

https://twitter.com/mercnews/status/1224312117773381632?s=20

# ? Feb 3, 2020 13:45

Ogantai: Apr 21, 2003; Full of bologna

https://twitter.com/NovaScotiaBuzz/status/1223787853211226112

# ? Feb 3, 2020 13:54

Niton: Oct 21, 2010; Your Lord and Savior has finally arrived!

..got any kibble?

SKULL.GIF posted:

Zheijiang is 2 provinces over from Hubei. Wonder if we'll eventually see repercussions for the Hubei officials, given that from what I can gather they didn't report this to the Chinese government until it was already several weeks undergone.

It's an enormous problem with tracking the spread of the virus, too! The officials let somewhere between 3 and 5-ish generations of the virus spread completely unhibited before saying anything, and China in turn took several weeks to formulate its own response. We have no idea of how many people are in each viral generation, let alone a clear estimated date of origin, two things we should absolutely have by this point given where the virus started. My personal guess is that the virus is far less contagious / deadly on an individual level than we currently believe, but the number of cases is astronomically higher than China claims.

The best part? We'll never really know! They were so late to monitoring, or tracking, or any real kind of response that there's a giant black spot where the essential data goes.

e: Basically, the situation in Wuhan is that people have been walking around inside of a plague boiler for close to 3 months now. Even if the chance of transmission is incredibly low, you're exposed to it so many times a day that the odds are pretty good you've at least had it run through your system by now.

Niton fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Feb 3, 2020

# ? Feb 3, 2020 13:55

fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1224316615598034945?s=20

:snoo:

# ? Feb 3, 2020 14:01

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

fits my needs posted:

https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1224316615598034945?s=20

Stakhanovite with Chinese characteristics

# ? Feb 3, 2020 14:05

just_a_person: Mar 13, 2019

Enfys posted:

Correct - the 1977 epidemic of Influenza A/USSR/90/77 (H1N1).

It hit children and people under 25 the hardest, which is unusual. The RNA of the virus was identical to an influenza that appeared shortly after WWII. Adults had some immunity to it because they had gotten it 25-30 years before, but kids obviously hadn't been exposed it since they hadn't been born then.

A 30 year old influenza strain can't spontaneously reappear in the wild with no trace of antigenic drift. We've confirmed that it was a lab originated flu, but there's debate over whether it was just a random lab accident or a consequence of vaccine trial gone wrong or some other kind of GoF research (changing a virus's genotype to gain or lose function).

Virology relies on Gain of Function research for some things, but it's a very thorny area because of the risks involved. Vaccine research routinely involves trying to change the a genotype so that it gains a desirable function like increased yield of vaccine strains. GoF research into the SARS coronavirus, for example, was able to show which 2 of 16 mutations allowed the strains circulating in civet cats to hijack a particular cell receptor in humans to infect us.

In 1976, there was a sudden threat of a swine flu outbreak which ultimately never fully realised beyond an initial outbreak in Fort Dix in the US. It was a novel H1N1 strain (H1N1 also caused the Spanish Flu) with odd circumstances because the outbreak was only among soldiers at Fort Dix with no exposure to pigs. Ultimately it didn't spread, but people were panicking that a 1918 type of flu could strike again. Unfortunately the aggressive intervention in the US involved a rushed vaccine which had a higher incidence of complications and Guillain-Barré syndrome.

The outbreak and vaccine issues caused a lot of panic, so it's extremely likely that the USSR was then actively working with the H1N1 strain from the late 40s for GoF in response, rather than it escaping from some random "oops". However, labs in the USSR and northern China where the outbreak originated all denied using it for research, so while we know it was caused by a lab virus, we can't be 100% sure how it escaped.

Thanks for the effort post. That's crazy that something so deadly escaped like that. Does this also mean we can detect bioweapons through genetic analysis by finding thing that dont fit evolutionary? Like in that case an identical virus from the past? Was genetic analysis ever done on the one that hit only the soldiers in America?

# ? Feb 3, 2020 14:13

vyst: Aug 25, 2009

This isn't a doomer vs bubbler argument but I find it interesting that given how many generations have probably passed we haven't seen much of an accelerated spread on US soil. Basically everyone in the US came from Wuhan or was loving/hugging someone that came from Wuhan.

# ? Feb 3, 2020 14:33

Armadillo Tank: Mar 26, 2010

Enfys posted:

In 1976, there was a sudden threat of a swine flu outbreak which ultimately never fully realised beyond an initial outbreak in Fort Dix in the US. It was a novel H1N1 strain (H1N1 also caused the Spanish Flu) with odd circumstances because the outbreak was only among soldiers at Fort Dix with no exposure to pigs. Ultimately it didn't spread, but people were panicking that a 1918 type of flu could strike again. Unfortunately the aggressive intervention in the US involved a rushed vaccine which had a higher incidence of complications and Guillain-Barr� syndrome.

Uhhhhhhh, any additional info on the fort dix "mystery" swine flu? That sounds really loving suspect.It is

# ? Feb 3, 2020 14:52

Robo Reagan: Feb 12, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Ogantai posted:

https://twitter.com/NovaScotiaBuzz/status/1223787853211226112

is that allowed?

# ? Feb 3, 2020 14:59

Luckyellow: Sep 25, 2007; Pillbug

I just remembered that China has been investing lot in various African countries. They've sent over Chinese workers to work on various infrastructure projects so I'm concerned that there would be plenty of cases popping up there ☹

# ? Feb 3, 2020 15:17

Niton: Oct 21, 2010; Your Lord and Savior has finally arrived!

..got any kibble?

vyst posted:

This isn't a doomer vs bubbler argument but I find it interesting that given how many generations have probably passed we haven't seen much of an accelerated spread on US soil. Basically everyone in the US came from Wuhan or was loving/hugging someone that came from Wuhan.

Yeah, that's the only conclusion that I can come to. Wuhan's been a hot zone for at least two months with significant travel for most of it. There's several enormous information gaps that could explain it.. if only Hubei had taken things even remotely seriously at the start.

# ? Feb 3, 2020 15:17

VomitOnLino: Jun 13, 2005; Sometimes I get lost.

Apparently a cruise ship off Yokohama (near Tokyo) with 3000 people on it has a potential case(s) of the novel Coronavirus.
The cruise is apparently now waiting in the bay of Yokohama for quarantine and further instructions. lol

# ? Feb 3, 2020 16:04

PathAsc: Nov 15, 2011; Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

So, is this still only killing infants and elderly, and people with poo poo immune systems? Or, have we made it to "we all hosed, fam" now?

# ? Feb 3, 2020 16:13

Jamsta: Dec 16, 2006; Oh you want some too? Fuck you!

PathAsc posted:

So, is this still only killing infants and elderly, and people with poo poo immune systems? Or, have we made it to "we all hosed, fam" now?

Mainly killing the elderly with underling conditions, but who knows as "CCP statistics" are worthless.

We'll see in the coming weeks if they've been hiding the true extent when the rest of the world gets infected.

There's an outside chance of a dystopic zombie apocalypse

# ? Feb 3, 2020 16:21

BoldFace: Feb 28, 2011

We have a first corona baby!

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1178355.shtml

# ? Feb 3, 2020 16:38

Admiral Ray: May 17, 2014; Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

PathAsc posted:

So, is this still only killing infants and elderly, and people with poo poo immune systems? Or, have we made it to "we all hosed, fam" now?

It's actually keyed to the communist gene, sorry folks. If you catch it and live, you're a lib.

# ? Feb 3, 2020 16:41

PathAsc: Nov 15, 2011; Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Admiral Ray posted:

It's actually keyed to the communist gene, sorry folks. If you catch it and live, you're a lib.

Good thing I'm a Pagan Socialist. Get hosed virus!

BoldFace posted:

We have a first corona baby!

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1178355.shtml

Children are already a plague unto us, this is inoculation for the Earthmother :gritty:

# ? Feb 3, 2020 16:57

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

BoldFace posted:

We have a first corona baby!

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1178355.shtml

This exact picture and article is something I would expect to be reported in the PRC's mouthpiece newspaper.

# ? Feb 3, 2020 17:08

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

PathAsc posted:

So, is this still only killing infants and elderly, and people with poo poo immune systems? Or, have we made it to "we all hosed, fam" now?

So far seems to mostly kill elderly people and those with underlying conditions, a couple researchers even theorizing that the varying lethality among different groups of the Chinese population (especially higher mortality of men than women) might map onto air quality and smoking. So far evidence seems to suggest that for young healthy non-smokers it's similar to a bad cold or flu that's easily transmissible to other people but not dangerous to the host, but it's still early days and reporting out of China is, shall we say, incomplete. Seems the majority of cases recover fine with a few days' rest at home, but in vulnerable populations it runs the risk of turning bad enough that even intensive hospital care isn't enough to save their lives.

# ? Feb 3, 2020 17:09

Agronox: Feb 4, 2005

Diva Cupcake posted:

This exact picture and article is something I would expect to be reported in the PRC's mouthpiece newspaper.

everything is awesome!
everything is cool under the quarantine

# ? Feb 3, 2020 17:10

PathAsc: Nov 15, 2011; Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

vyelkin posted:

So far seems to mostly kill elderly people and those with underlying conditions, a couple researchers even theorizing that the varying lethality among different groups of the Chinese population (especially higher mortality of men than women) might map onto air quality and smoking. So far evidence seems to suggest that for young healthy non-smokers it's similar to a bad cold or flu that's easily transmissible to other people but not dangerous to the host, but it's still early days and reporting out of China is, shall we say, incomplete. Seems the majority of cases recover fine with a few days' rest at home, but in vulnerable populations it runs the risk of turning bad enough that even intensive hospital care isn't enough to save their lives.

Cool, the companies I work with have enacted OH poo poo PROTOCOL which is lawls balls

I'm dying from capitalism, but nah, let's poo poo our energy towards the DANGER COLD

# ? Feb 3, 2020 17:30

A Buttery Pastry: Sep 4, 2011; Delicious and Informative!

BoldFace posted:

We have a first corona baby!

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1178355.shtml

Half-human, half-virus baby.

# ? Feb 3, 2020 19:03

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

CODChimera posted:

have the deaths hit double digits outside of china yet?

the deaths have not hit double outside of china yet

# ? Feb 3, 2020 19:03

CPA Hell: Apr 15, 2007; I like to press the number six!

Doccykins posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f08e1332473c08b

Lady makes it to Germany for a workshop and only presents symptoms on the way back, good luck everyone

I think this in the cluster that was announced late last week, where they showed the timeline of the different people in parallel to show that it was definitely asymptomatic transmission.

# ? Feb 3, 2020 19:22

Ringo Roadagain: Mar 27, 2010

CPA Hell posted:

I think this in the cluster that was announced late last week, where they showed the timeline of the different people in parallel to show that it was definitely asymptomatic transmission.

apparently the woman who spread this and was showing �no symptoms� was actually on fever reducing medication. so she was showing symptoms.

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/excc8x/chinese_woman_not_asymptomatic_during_her_stay_in/

# ? Feb 3, 2020 19:35

Tempora Mutantur: Feb 22, 2005

I'm at home sick from work after feeling wrecked since Saturday, pretty sure I'm fine (aside from the flu-like symptoms that have me mostly unconscious) but all I can think is:

has anyone said "wuhan flu ain't nothin to gently caress with" yet

# ? Feb 3, 2020 19:58

bob dobbs is dead: Oct 8, 2017; I love peeps; Nap Ghost

Gbs thread has. Many times

# ? Feb 3, 2020 20:10

QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

PathAsc posted:

Cool, the companies I work with have enacted OH poo poo PROTOCOL which is lawls balls

I'm dying from capitalism, but nah, let's poo poo our energy towards the DANGER COLD

I actually don't want most of the old people in my life to die

# ? Feb 3, 2020 20:10

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

QuarkJets posted:

I actually don't want most of the old people in my life to die

ive got bad news

# ? Feb 3, 2020 20:20

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

When (or if :tinfoil:

) vaccine is developed I propose renaming the thread Wuhan Shot First

# ? Feb 3, 2020 20:23

Robo Reagan: Feb 12, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

QuarkJets posted:

I actually don't want most of the old people in my life to die

the life cycle of sa comedy: already been run in to the ground and 10 years later someone thinks theyve just come up with it

# ? Feb 3, 2020 20:30

Doorknob Slobber: Sep 10, 2006; by Fluffdaddy

fits my needs posted:

https://twitter.com/mercnews/status/1224312117773381632?s=20

i KNEW we'd all die in lovely fema tents

# ? Feb 3, 2020 20:35

Crusader: Apr 11, 2002

fun trivia

https://twitter.com/IsabelOtt/status/1224419577490280454

# ? Feb 3, 2020 20:50

Bip Roberts: Mar 29, 2005

old people die all the dang time

# ? Feb 3, 2020 20:50

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

Bip Roberts posted:

old people die all the dang time

Not fast enough

# ? Feb 3, 2020 21:07

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

Tempora Mutantur posted:

I'm at home sick from work after feeling wrecked since Saturday, pretty sure I'm fine (aside from the flu-like symptoms that have me mostly unconscious) but all I can think is:

has anyone said "wuhan flu ain't nothin to gently caress with" yet

nobody has made any madagascar jokes either. quick, you can be the first one

# ? Feb 3, 2020 21:09

Tempora Mutantur: Feb 22, 2005

Shear Modulus posted:

nobody has made any madagascar jokes either. quick, you can be the first one

pfft greenland is the real pain in the rear end

# ? Feb 3, 2020 21:27

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? Jun 3, 2024 12:59

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

ive seen some people arguing about particulate matter / environmental concerns but honestly it sounds like it's almost completely because of it being a scary foreign practice

iirc there's one colorado town where it's legal for some reason, but it's banned everywhere else in the us

but yeah even that bill only exists because they sold it as "the jedi disposal act."

if the person was treated with nuclear medicine you dont want to burn them. otherwise yeah

# ? Feb 3, 2020 21:39

The Something Awful Forums > Archives > Comedy Goldmine > The Goodmine > Coronavirus 2020 - START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!!

«‹›2494 »