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Ghost Leviathan posted:Biden eating poo poo in Iowa probably doesn't even need to be widely publicised to take some information from; it confirms that so much of his support is only on paper, both from lovely polling and decreased turnout among his expected voters. Apparently the old people are staying home. (or likely voting for Trump) Yeah, it delivers a serious blow to the illusion that he's the clear frontrunner and undermines confidence with donators and backers. And if narratives like "he didn't draw out old people" or "he didn't get unite people in the middle and right" develop it undermines a lot of his pitch. And more, if that stuff's true then it should carry over and repeat itself. A headline hit for Biden wasn't gonna kill his campaign. He's in this thing until Super Tuesday and he'll be pushing to South Carolina.
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STAC Goat posted:I don't know that I see it that way. The SOTU was always going to take the narrative so any way you cut it Bernie's losing a day at most, and maybe even half that. If he wins then he'll be addressing the SOTU while talking about winning Iowa. The more important result of Iowa, besides the delegates, is the affect it has on the race. If Biden did as poorly as we think and Bernie did as well then its good for Bernie and bad for Biden. The people who seem like they could really lose out here are Buttigieg or Warren since if they managed to grab a win, or even a strong second they'll probably have that momentum lost to the SOTU and the "frontrunners". At least that's how I see it. I'm not going to watch the SOTU. I get lied to enough already. I don't needTrump to piss on my back and tell me it's raining. When it comes to the stuff with Bernie, Buttigieg and the DNC; who didn't expect something like this?
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STAC Goat posted:I don't personally care about the "EPIC DNC FAIL" stuff since most of the people saying that stuff were saying things like it anyway. Barring some huge scandalous revelation this won't matter in a month except to the people for whom it advances their beliefs or agendas. At most it becomes an albatross to Buttigieg if that link to the app thing develops into something. I like this take right here, mostly cause I agree with it.
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shrike82 posted:Bernie getting sub-30% in Iowa isn’t a great start for a campaign trying to mobilize infrequent voters ...he's running against 4-5 other contenders, at least three of whom could pull that themselves. Seriously? 
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Welp, get ready for a year of “if you can’t run a caucus, how do you expect to run heathcare??????????????” takes
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Dems shooting everyone and themselves in the foot to prevent a Sanders win. DNC would prefer another 4 years of Trump.
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Gatts posted:Dems shooting everyone and themselves in the foot to prevent a Sanders win. DNC would prefer another 4 years of Trump. Yeah it’s this. They’d gleefully suicide vest the whole loving primary before they’ll wholeheartedly back an avowed socialist. I’m, uh, discouraged.
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skeleton warrior posted:Welp, get ready for a year of “if you can’t run a caucus, how do you expect to run heathcare??????????????” takes Yes, because the Republican Party wouldn't have been able to come up with a clever way to insinuate Democrats were incompetent otherwise. This won't even be a story in a week.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Yes, because the Republican Party wouldn't have been able to come up with a clever way to insinuate Democrats were incompetent otherwise. Maybe the Democratic party could stop being so incompetent, would certainly make it harder to make those "insinuations".
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It's a good thing that Trump and the GOP will continue to generate daily outrages to wash this Iowa nonsense away.
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i am harry posted:It is written a bit ambiguously, that’s true. One of the greatest things about state politics is this stuff right here. Inject it right into my veins. Lol when Gov Northam expanded medicaid the GOP negotiated with the Dems to put a work requirement on it, the trick is that the executive has to enforce that and after it passed Northam was just..."Nah, we arent going to do that and gently caress you." They never saw that coming and couldnt do a drat thing about it lol.
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LeeMajors posted:Yeah it’s this. They’d gleefully suicide vest the whole loving primary before they’ll wholeheartedly back an avowed socialist. This is straight up DemsBad poisoning. The most common refrain from every single camp (well, other than Chapo), is “vote for the final nominee no matter what.”
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MadJackal posted:This is straight up DemsBad poisoning. I guess you can make that argument for people who live in battleground states, which isn't most of us
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I guess you can make that argument for people who live in battleground states, which isn't most of us Even if you’re not in a battleground state- the way the media and party will treat a winner with under 50% of the vote is going to be different from the way it treats a landslide winner.
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skeleton warrior posted:Even if you’re not in a battleground state- the way the media and party will treat a winner with under 50% of the vote is going to be different from the way it treats a landslide winner. Who cares? Not presidents Bush or Trump, obviously.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Yes, because the Republican Party wouldn't have been able to come up with a clever way to insinuate Democrats were incompetent otherwise. Is that what the DNC/Dem establishment is counting on? Trump says something and becomes news and everything gets brushed away and forgotten?
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Caucuses are really bad! Except for the "ability to express second place preference" part, which is something elections can and should be doing.
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Gatts posted:Is that what the DNC/Dem establishment is counting on? Trump says something and becomes news and everything gets brushed away and forgotten? That and the State of the Union is coming up
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https://twitter.com/MeetMckayla/status/1224677151909335041 Dont forget that you can still donate to Mckayla Wilkes to unseat Steny Hoyer!
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skeleton warrior posted:Welp, get ready for a year of “if you can’t run a caucus, how do you expect to run heathcare??????????????” takes Well, the caucus counting was outsourced to private industry, so...
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friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/MeetMckayla/status/1224677151909335041 when the water riots happen and money has no value people like bezos are in for a world of trouble.
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I can't believe Pete Buttigeig, whose entire debate platform was "I was a complete and total failure as a mayor by almost any measure, therefore I would be the ideal candidate for president because..." did something stupid.
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ManBoyChef posted:when the water riots happen and money has no value people like bezos are in for a world of trouble. money buys water
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uggy posted:money buys water He's talking about a future where there's less buying and selling and more taking.
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There Bias Two posted:He's talking about a future where there's less buying and selling and more taking.
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mystes posted:An army of delivery drones that can be repurposed to steal water might be useful? we are going to have to get a lot of shotguns and birdshot in that eventuality. No drone is gonna pinch my H2O and give it to bezos
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friendbot2000 posted:That and the State of the Union is coming up Somebody needs to invite Bolton and Parnas as their guests to this thing
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Neo Rasa posted:Can a drone tell the difference between water and ammonia because Drones can't tell the difference between a training camp and a wedding.
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Weird question, I was reading about the democratic primary history, and the DNC started staggering the primaries after the 1968 convention protests. What I can't find is why the 68 convention triggered this change in the primary process. Does anyone know or have a good article about why the primaries were staggered like this, in response to the 68 protests?
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/284156/trump-job-approval-personal-best.aspx LOL Trump approval at an all time high.
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DarkHorse posted:I wondered what was bothering me about that picture I hate the nicknames. I think it distills him into some hateful energy and people get to excuse the fact that this is a terrible person who believes and does terrible things. The litany against complacency: Donald Trump is the President of the United States. I don't want names that trigger republicans into defending him or hating "the left" more than their bullshit propaganda already pushed them to do. No, I want it to sink in with everyone that a reality TV villain, a gameshow host, a sleezeball is the president of the United States. Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/nhparks/status/1213342617162915840?s=20 Tesla is straight up Bitcoining. Up another 12% on literally nothing. Should be fun to watch
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mcmagic posted:https://news.gallup.com/poll/284156/trump-job-approval-personal-best.aspx
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah this is not good. The highest rating for him in Gallup in 3 1/2 years. Almost every aspect of that poll is not good
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Is Tesla booming because it's owned by a man who is going to give the US another manned space-launch system?
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ManBoyChef posted:I'm not going to watch the SOTU. I get lied to enough already. I don't needTrump to piss on my back and tell me it's raining. I find, lies aside, watching Trump give prepared speethes to be exhaushting because he only reads two to three words off the teluprobtpr at a time.
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