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presumably changes to tag inputs accurately to the timing the local stream is at, which seems to me would make a rhythm game perfectly fine streaming? not like it's latency between audio and video in this instance. so as long as the software does know what the user saw when they pushed the button it doesn't matter that much if the score feedback is some hundreds of millis behind. e: stadia still dumb and bad, but not for this reason, and not even for this genre so much
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infernal machines posted:does stadia actually have a mechanism for determining the client output at a given time? It's going to be constantly sending latency measurements back. So long as its consistent they should be able to compensate for it well enough. Jitter is a different matter and would cause problems.
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given the prevalence of jitter on cable internet services i imagine it might be a rather large problem
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This is all they said https://twitter.com/thumpergame/status/1212531033855295494?s=21 I doubt it’s as sophisticated as latency based rollback netcode I notice a considerable difference in how difficult that game is between my computer->receiver->TV at 60hz and my 144hz directly connected monitor so still seems like a bad demo
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:presumably changes to tag inputs accurately to the timing the local stream is at, which seems to me would make a rhythm game perfectly fine streaming? have you ever played it? it's not the scoring, hundreds of milliseconds in the feedback from pressing a button would be intolerable
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Jenny Agutter posted:I doubt it’s as sophisticated as latency based rollback netcode you don't need that to make a dumb rhythm game mostly acceptable though, what you need is to make the scores fair (as in based on button presses synced to video/audio output). it will be relatively unnoticeable of you *report* them 200 ms late as long as there is proper firework for "PERFECT!" Jenny Agutter posted:have you ever played it? it's not the scoring, hundreds of milliseconds in the feedback from pressing a button would be intolerable i've not played this particular game no, but rhythm games i have played have been of a kind where i'd be downright inclined to close my eyes to maximize my chances of hitting the precise timings.
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in fact, yet another case where if stadia just went after the party rockstar/singstar crowd, allowing the use of android devices, with one-time rentals, it'd make so much more sense than the current "lol it's a console in the cloud"
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:you don't need that to make a dumb rhythm game mostly acceptable though, what you need is to make the scores fair (as in based on button presses synced to video/audio output). it will be relatively unnoticeable of you *report* them 200 ms late as long as there is proper firework for "PERFECT!" I see what you're saying and I agree the scoring could be easily compensated but there is strong audio/visual/haptic feedback in thumper, it’s kind of integral to the whole experience. and it’s a very very fast game
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qirex posted:there's some little fiio players that are under 150 dollars without storage that I'd go for over that sony drat some of those other models have a powerful aesthetic. Shame about them being 600+ tho
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how is the product everyone wants google to kill the only one that lives on? quote:Google is making its latest augmented reality headset, Google Glass Enterprise Edition 2, available for direct purchase, nearly a year after launching it through select workplace partners for $999 a unit. The price remains the same, but Google says you no longer have to go through a “solution provider” to purchase one. That’s especially helpful for developers who may want to tinker with Google’s heads-up display and haven’t been able to easily do so since the device’s initial, ill-fated “Explorer Edition” launch way back in 2014.
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qirex posted:how is the product everyone wants google to kill the only one that lives on?
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qirex posted:how is the product everyone wants google to kill the only one that lives on? why is it Google Glass Enterprise Edition 2 and not Google Glass Enterprise Edition for Business?
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Boiled Water posted:why is it Google Glass Enterprise Edition 2 and not Google Glass Enterprise Edition for Business?
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Boiled Water posted:why is it Google Glass Enterprise Edition 2 and not Google Glass Enterprise Edition for Business? Google Glass Enterprise Edition Ice Cream Sandwich
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how is that even a thing? who wants this? who is dumb enough to rely on google hardware for work?
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The Management posted:how is that even a thing? who wants this? who is dumb enough to rely on google hardware for work?
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mystes posted:You ask this almost as if "who wants this" is a thing that Google takes into consideration when launching products. obviously that’s not true but by now they should have killed it already because there’s no way anyone is buying these. my theory is that Sergei and Larry like theirs and that’s why the whole project is still running
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The Management posted:who is dumb enough to rely on google for work?
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Jenny Agutter posted:Google Glass Enterprise Edition Ice Cream Sandwich thank you
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it is adorable that onlive had an infinitely better interface way before its time, and that nvidia's thing has been in beta for ages, and that sony has also been working on its own thing publicly as a baseline that stadia would need to beat out as a baseline
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qirex posted:how is the product everyone wants google to kill the only one that lives on? industry so the antithesis of the old "more popular than toothbrushes" or whatever shtick that one of the old bosses used to proclaim as necessary
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you have got to be kidding me. that is amazing
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titanium sounds warmer 
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its easy for some 2-man company in the middle of nowhere to make blatantly, hilariously false claims about their magic speaker boxes that are actually just filled with gravel which will be sold to a few idiots for 10k a pop, but for sony to do it on a walkman takes huge nuts
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:its easy for some 2-man company in the middle of nowhere to make blatantly, hilariously false claims about their magic speaker boxes that are actually just filled with gravel which will be sold to a few idiots for 10k a pop, but for sony to do it on a walkman takes huge nuts 
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wow can't wait to play lovely gta3 on my phone
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v scientific op
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we can do better than that 
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:its easy for some 2-man company in the middle of nowhere to make blatantly, hilariously false claims about their magic speaker boxes that are actually just filled with gravel which will be sold to a few idiots for 10k a pop, but for sony to do it on a walkman takes huge nuts 
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lol just injecting random noise at frequencies above hearing what a smart feature
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:lol just injecting random noise at frequencies above hearing what a smart feature maybe they are using ai to deep fake some extra frequencies
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you can actually extrapolate some higher frequencies from a frequency-limited signal. the nyquist-Shannon theorems are for dealing with exact sample encoding. in audio it doesn’t have to be exact, close is good enough.
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cool I'm sure the dogs around you will appreciate all that fidelity for 20khz+ audio
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dogs need music too
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dogs can have a little X-Fi experience, as a treat
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Plank Walker posted:dogs can have a little X-Fi experience, as a treat lol
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