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Neophyte posted:Look at this super exciting stuff they're missing out on on the Q-Ship People who go on cruises continue to baffle me more and more 
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Enfys posted:People who go on cruises continue to baffle me more and more I've never wanted to take a cruise, but the idea of going somewhere, by boat, always appealed to me. None of the planned fun or loving rock-climbing walls and gorge yourself buffets, but the sounds of the sea, the rocking of the waves, some simple galley meals, and maybe a good bottle of Scotch to pair with a book or two while actually transitioning from one point on the globe to another. I wonder if experiences like that still exist/will exist in the post-Wuhan Renaissance. Edit: I just want the Staten Island ferry, but with staterooms and the trip to last 4 days.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I've never wanted to take a cruise, but the idea of going somewhere, by boat, always appealed to me. None of the planned fun or loving rock-climbing walls and gorge yourself buffets, but the sounds of the sea, the rocking of the waves, some simple galley meals, and maybe a good bottle of Scotch to pair with a book or two while actually transitioning from one point on the globe to another. You can 100% book a ride on a commercial ship and do exactly this. Book the right ship (like a french one) and wine is included with the galley meals. It's a little more complicated to make a round trip back to the home port in 1-2 weeks this way though.
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That sort of thing definitely doesn't happen on cruise ships, most people want to live like Caligula. Telling a probably mid-60s insanely drunk cruise goer that we would really appreciate it if he stopped trying to drum up interest for an impromptu orgy, especially by asking the fifteen year olds at the pool to come "and bring a friend", is just one of many lovely things I had to do during my time. Yes sir, I know they look nice in their bikinis. No sir, they're still underage even if we're not in a state. No sir, I don't want to do a couple of shots with you.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I've never wanted to take a cruise, but the idea of going somewhere, by boat, always appealed to me. None of the planned fun or loving rock-climbing walls and gorge yourself buffets, but the sounds of the sea, the rocking of the waves, some simple galley meals, and maybe a good bottle of Scotch to pair with a book or two while actually transitioning from one point on the globe to another. A floating deli/bar/library sounds pretty good. In fact, take the boat out of it and I'll just get drunk and make a sandwich while reading at home, there's a dang plague out there.
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Redgrendel2001 posted:https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/status/1225067753683476485?s=19 From the article: https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594 quote:Tencent may have accidentally leaked real data on Wuhan virus deaths
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I've never wanted to take a cruise, but the idea of going somewhere, by boat, always appealed to me. None of the planned fun or loving rock-climbing walls and gorge yourself buffets, but the sounds of the sea, the rocking of the waves, some simple galley meals, and maybe a good bottle of Scotch to pair with a book or two while actually transitioning from one point on the globe to another.
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Enfys posted:People who go on cruises continue to baffle me more and more It's a neat way to see Alaska. 
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Feb 5, 2020 18:55
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Pawn 17 posted:From the article: man this is just BS certainly the official count doesn't reflect reality, but they don't have an additional secret set of numbers that reflects the actual ill/dead. they probably have some math people doing model simulations that say there might be such and such numbers but there is no way that the numbers reported here actually come from a secret tally the government is hiding
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Feb 5, 2020 18:57
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Mozi posted:man this is just BS Why would the government not keep track of the actual numbers internally?
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Pawn 17 posted:Why would the government not keep track of the actual numbers internally? Stop posting your stupid unverified fear mongering bullshit in a thread that's already got people scared.
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Pawn 17 posted:Why would the government not keep track of the actual numbers internally? think about how this would be possible to keep track of real numbers, when there is a shortage of test kits, that test kits are unreliable, that many people have mild symptoms, and that people may be dying at home you just can't get these numbers right now. you can do math to guess what they are, but you can't walk around tallying them up believe me I don't trust the CCP in general but there are limitations to what anybody can actually know in these situations
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Feb 5, 2020 19:03
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Mozi posted:think about how this would be possible to keep track of real numbers, when there is a shortage of test kits, that test kits are unreliable, that many people have mild symptoms, and that people may be dying at home
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Feb 5, 2020 19:05
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I'm headed to Vegas, Death Valley, and Joshua Tree next week and judging by my last trip and all the Chinese tourists, these places are gonna be like ghost towns.
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like what? "a hundred people came into X and X hospital today, 50 tested negative and then we ran out of tests, so.... let's call it, maybe, 30 infected?" i don't see how that's any better it's ok to accept uncertainty. certainly there are many more dead and sick than the official numbers, but that's just because of the nature of how they are counted. i do believe the math people when they said a week ago there were high five figured infected and that's also valuable information. i just don't need there to be some great source of truth that is being hidden from us and yes there are additional issues where in China the cause of death for a lot of these probably won't reflect the virus which is annoying but apparently just how things are done there i don't mean to diminish how awful it must be for many people affected by this, which could very well just be the start of a larger global issue (imagine if it was spreading in Bangladesh, India, African slums...). but everyone getting excited about the most extreme stuff getting tossed out online just removes us further from seeing what is actually happening in reality Mozi fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Feb 5, 2020 |
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Feb 5, 2020 19:11
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:Stop posting your stupid unverified fear mongering bullshit in a thread that's already got people scared. It's not fear mongering it's lol china mongering
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Feb 5, 2020 19:19
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Enfys posted:People who go on cruises continue to baffle me more and more You're not appreciating how much an excess of alcohol transforms that itinerary into a nonstop wonderland. Bonus: if you're saturated with vodka then you're sterilizing the virus.
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EvilJoven posted:IDK burt the commercial for your cruise doesn't look that fun. I saw this movie when I was like 5 years old. Man, my parents sucked
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Feb 5, 2020 19:25
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Mozi posted:like what? "a hundred people came into X and X hospital today, 50 tested negative and then we ran out of tests, so.... let's call it, maybe, 30 infected?" i don't see how that's any better Maybe they can just reuse some of the tests? 
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Feb 5, 2020 19:26
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I pmd mrs sexual and she says I’m a worry wort 
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wort wexual
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Tencent is not owned by Chinese money. Can you not tell the difference between Tencent and Huawei? Now for a subject matter that's not stupid poverty goat posted:You can 100% book a ride on a commercial ship and do exactly this. Book the right ship (like a french one) and wine is included with the galley meals. It's a little more complicated to make a round trip back to the home port in 1-2 weeks this way though. Can you tell me what keyword to search for this kind of boat services? I remember a video of a youtuber crossing the Atlantic on one of those freight ships.
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It’ll be fine, just wash your hands, don’t touch your face and rinse all your food off in water like some kind of cruise-enjoying vacation raccoon. Maybe also huck somebody overboard when you first set sail as a sacrifice to Poseidon, to ensure safety.
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I think everyone agrees that the number are low for a number of reasons, the exact degree is the only question. Here's an interesting thought experiment. If the Chinese government came out and said. "We were wrong, the situation is much more dire than we have been disclosing. The actual figures are much worse by a factor of x." How would your personal situation change? Beyond what you have already done, and standard precautions (like washing hands, covering coughs, etc) - what would you do? Run to the store and stock up on food? Flee to the countryside hoping to avoid all human contact and pray a vaccine is found before you get sick/die? Now imagine everyone in your town or community having the same idea at the same time. What would you want your government to do? How would you feel if you got 'stuck' on the infected side of whatever actions they take? I personally feel like the genie is out of the bottle as far as our ability to contain it and we are all in the 'pray for a vaccine' phase, and governments around the world are having to walk the line of taking measures to mitigate the spread and impact without causing a worldwide panic. Not an enviable position to be in.
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marsisol posted:I'm headed to Vegas, Death Valley, and Joshua Tree next week and judging by my last trip and all the Chinese tourists, these places are gonna be like ghost towns. avoid the Wynn casino. i was there a few weeks ago and it was the epicenter of chinese new year celebrations. was pretty nervous when i got home and read up on the virus cause i spent a lot of time in there playing penny slots and chain smoking, but i’m past the 2 week incubation now and should be ok. i will say the decorations they had for CNY were extremely beautiful though (giant carousel made entirely of flowers, huge gardens, giant rat statues).
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Golli posted:I think everyone agrees that the number are low for a number of reasons, the exact degree is the only question. I probably wouldn't be boarding a plane to a major west coast city tonight. But even if it's worse in China than reported, I won't properly worry until it's popping off in North America, and even then, I'll mostly be worried for my kids and elderly in-laws.
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Golli posted:Here's an interesting thought experiment. If that happened, I think the more interesting question is what would countries do? I mean they would probably immediately stop any air traffic to China (which Germany and France still allow) or maybe even all international air traffic, and more borders would be closed. As for people in other countries, I don't think they would do much different, there are already racist reaction to Asians all over the places at this point, people have started buying masks etc.
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stephenthinkpad posted:
"Booking passage" should bring up results.
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monkeytennis posted:I was in York with MY WIFE the weekend before last. There were lots of Chinese tourists especially down the Shambles and around the Minster. Rip. Please keep posting updates
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Splicer posted:wort wexual Better than Sexual Warts
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Mozi posted:and yes there are additional issues where in China the cause of death for a lot of these probably won't reflect the virus which is annoying but apparently just how things are done there So we should just unquestioningly trust the official numbers? Numbers from the same government that when his started rather than taking preventative action and asking for international help, moved to suppress doctors and reporters. China under reporting the numbers has real life consequences for people, especially in China. Getting real information out early is important on every level, from the global research community spending the resources for treatment and vaccines, to international aid for China, screening for those who have spent time in Wuhan, and even just for things like people to be aware that it's important to do things like washing your hands. The Chinese government basically saying "Don't worry, everything is totally fine!" because they are primarily concerned about their economy goes against all that.
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Obviously the Chinese government is controlling the test kit supply to suppress the count. As they bring more hospitals online they'll release more test kits proportionally so it looks like they're keeping pace instead of underwater.
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Pawn 17 posted:So we should just unquestioningly trust the official numbers? Numbers from the same government that when his started rather than taking preventative action and asking for international help, moved to suppress doctors and reporters. China under reporting the numbers has real life consequences for people, especially in China. you are doing the opposite of getting real information out. you are spreading complete bullshit as if it were or might be fact. i specifically said i don't trust the CCP and that you need to accept that perfect information is impossible to obtain in any case. accept uncertainty and know what you can't know for sure. the recent moves by the CCP indicate they accept that economic damage will happen as a result of this. i don't know how it will shake out - possible global recession? - but I would really love to see your source of China saying 'everything is totally fine' just to be totally clear i personally despise the CCP and in general do not trust them at all so it's weird having to defend them to any length Mozi fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Feb 5, 2020 |
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Chrs posted:Lol sorry for not just taking the claims of an unfamiliar news source at face value. You don't have to, they cite all of their numbers. They're using official sources they're just putting them all in 1 place Whether you trust the official sources is a separate question
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Burt Sexual posted:I pmd mrs sexual and she says I’m a worry wort If it all kicks off on your cruise at least you’ll be able to say I told you so
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I've never wanted to take a cruise, but the idea of going somewhere, by boat, always appealed to me. None of the planned fun or loving rock-climbing walls and gorge yourself buffets, but the sounds of the sea, the rocking of the waves, some simple galley meals, and maybe a good bottle of Scotch to pair with a book or two while actually transitioning from one point on the globe to another. They don't, and never really did. Everything you described sounds great. Except you're satisfied with that after 6 hours. Now find something to do for the other 150 hours you're on the boat. Travelogs from the age of ship crossings, ones from real people not writing fiction, talk extensively about the crushing boredom day after day.
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HellOnEarth posted:It’ll be fine, just wash your hands, don’t touch your face and rinse all your food off in water like some kind of cruise-enjoying vacation raccoon. Poseidon doesn't want some cruise-goer though you need to find a swarthy deckhand, if you just throw over the first fat or old person you see then the ship is going to capsize for sure
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My parents are taking the family on a cruise in June and honestly it's the first thing I thought of when this flu started hitting the news. I figure by June it'll be burned out, contained or so bad we won't be going, which would suck considering the moolah already spent.
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