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Kennel posted:What about Saiyans? Could Goku beat an MMA fighter in a legit fight?  Since Dragonball wasn't as much as powering up as it was funky martial arts abilities and tournaments and we see child Goku run train on many of his opponents, and literally the first thing he does in the series is survive a gunshot at point-blank range... yes. mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Feb 6, 2020 |
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mind the walrus posted:
What if you shot him from further away so the bullet has time to gather speed tho?
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Feb 6, 2020 02:15
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Zaphod42 posted:http://cavemancircus.com/2019/03/26/son-knocks-out-his-step-dad-for-calling-his-friend-the-n-word/ The best part of this video is the ankle monitor on the stepson. This ain't his first "beating the poo poo out of StepDad" Rodeo.
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Feb 6, 2020 02:18
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Jerry Cotton posted:What if you shot him from further away so the bullet has time to gather speed tho? I'm pretty sure Goku gets shot a ton and it never really takes. That's what prompts all the laser blasts later on.
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Feb 6, 2020 02:19
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mind the walrus posted:I'm pretty sure Goku gets shot a ton and it never really takes. That's what prompts all the laser blasts later on. Wait there's actually shooting? All the bits I've seen are just dudes floating in mid-air making pooping-really-hard faces at each other.
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Feb 6, 2020 02:27
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Jerry Cotton posted:Wait there's actually shooting? All the bits I've seen are just dudes floating in mid-air making pooping-really-hard faces at each other. First of all, your TV's not even turned on
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Feb 6, 2020 02:28
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Captain Hygiene posted:First of all, your TV's not even turned on How would you kn---Vegetal!!!
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Feb 6, 2020 02:32
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Jerry Cotton posted:Wait there's actually shooting? All the bits I've seen are just dudes floating in mid-air making pooping-really-hard faces at each other. He got shot at a lot when he was a little kid.
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Feb 6, 2020 02:35
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Jerry Cotton posted:What if you shot him from further away so the bullet has time to gather speed tho? Then you just burned a very rare and expensive Gyrojet round. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwO4ohqkjb0
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Feb 6, 2020 02:40
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https://twitter.com/AAAAAGGHHHH/status/1219299691201884162?s=20
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Feb 6, 2020 02:47
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The good stuff 
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Feb 6, 2020 02:49
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She sounds like baby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qkrKTAOv2M E-- gently caress I even said "Oh wait that's Mario not Yoshi, make sure you write Mario" when writing the post. mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Feb 6, 2020 |
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Feb 6, 2020 02:53
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mind the walrus posted:She sounds like baby Yoshi at the start there thatsa him, mario
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Hihohe posted:The good stuff SMDH if you wouldn't just immediately lick it off anyway 
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Feb 6, 2020 04:24
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:If they've sparred extensively, maybe. There's a big gulf between "fit, plus can throw a punch and string forms together" and "has actually used said punches in a combat situation." LifeSunDeath posted:If they fought someone in their weight class who was less skilled sure. Weight classes matter a lot when with trained fighters, because lets say a 5'5'' 130 pound monk fights 6'4'' 200 pound John Jones, Jones has massive reach and size advantage, would pick that monk up and slam him into dust with little to no effort. so recently i started following this youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAzXqFoW1Y7KDqwZ1x5m9EA called Fight Commentry Breakdown. which is mostly about MMA and traditional Chinese martial arts. the guy isn't an expert or anything, but he makes a lot of convincing arguments about the problems with TCM. The first is that most kung fu dojos just don't do real sparring, period. It's why a lot of supposed masters end up getting completely surprised the first time they go in the ring with an MMA guy, because they have no idea what actually getting punched in the face feels like. The second issue is that TCM, probably related to the issue with not sparring, doesn't emphasize conditioning very much, especially not strength training. So even if they're fighting someone who by weight is much smaller than they, they struggle to match their power, because they just aren't as strong. The fundamental root of both of these problems is that a huge proportion of the styles and forms that constitute TCM are not actually for sport boxing or self defense at all, at least not originally. Instead many of the common moves in kung fu and tai chi are actually forms of exercise with more in common with yoga than krav maga. Alternatively, they actually come from the long tradition of chinese opera. The FightCommentaryBreakdown channel, they actually show footage of kung fu practice and point out moves that are specifically meant for performances, with the practitioners slapping their feet to make loud impressive noises at times to make their moves appear more theatrically impressive to an audience. When you look at 100 year old videos of Chinese soldiers practicing sword sparring, they don't use kung fu moves at all, instead they are obviously using European or Japanese saber styles. So in summary, TCM guys do bad against MMA because they aren't really training in self defense at all. Instead they learn a kind of stage fighting similar to Capoeira and a Qing dynasty equivalent of a jazzercise routine. Then they never realize it's not real because they never actually have to apply it.
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Feb 6, 2020 04:36
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James Woods posted:On the subject of gloves, I got a boxers fracture a couple years ago in a street fight. I literally broke my hand punching someone in the face. To this day I can't recieved a firm handshake without being in tremendous pain. If you're going to punch someone in the face use the base of your palm. Did you get it looked at? It's a fairly regular thing for MMA fighters to break their hands, they use smaller gloves so they can grapple, and they punch the poo poo out of each other. They usually need surgery afterwards. For example, Mark Hunt (right) resorted to using elbows against Bigfoot Silva (left) when he broke his hand.  That fight was ruled a draw, which is bullshit for a couple of reasons. The first is that the referee gave Silva a get out of jail card in the fifth round by stopping the fight so a doctor could check a cut that was clearly fine, when he was very close to being stopped. The second was that Silva was on a shitload of steroids. In the rematch, after they had tightened up the rules surrounding therapeutic use exemptions for testosterone replacement therapy, Hunt folded him like a lawn chair in less than a round.
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Feb 6, 2020 04:39
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Squalid posted:The first is that most kung fu dojos just don't do real sparring, period. It's why a lot of supposed masters end up getting completely surprised the first time they go in the ring with an MMA guy, because they have no idea what actually getting punched in the face feels like. You'd be surprised at how badly getting popped in the face will discombobulate you until it's happened enough times to get used to it. Combine that with it being a sport where the next attack could be anything from another punch, to a kick, to a wrestling takedown, to a judo toss, to someone jumping off the cage and then roundhouse kicking you across the face...it's a lot to have to think about while also playing short range dodgeball with an emphasis on making one of you stop moving. There's also the joke that every time you get punched in a fight, you lose one belt rank in BJJ. So even the most decorated grappler is likely to stop performing at their peak as soon as the opponent lays hands on them. And seconding Memento's comment. I've got permanent hand damage from too many injuries doing MMA. If you can get that checked out, it might help save you some future pain.
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Feb 6, 2020 04:56
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If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him. Or he'll puncture your tire.
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Feb 6, 2020 05:04
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Proteus Jones posted:If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him. Or he'll puncture your tire. That just seems like bad car-ma
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Feb 6, 2020 05:14
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Captain Hygiene posted:That just seems like bad car-ma 
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Feb 6, 2020 05:59
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nice coke nail
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Regrettable posted:nice coke nail please it's a booger nail
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Feb 6, 2020 07:10
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90% of old traditional martial arts is garbage and turns out was mostly just used for ceremonial shows because it has no real world applications. The exception to this is "wrestling" which is something every MMA fighter must know still. Apparently even cave men did some form of wrestling Back when a lot of MMA shows had basically no rules, the most efficient way to beat any fighter was to tackle them to the ground, lock their body up with yours and headbutt them lol. It was such a dominant strategy that they had to make headbutts illegal almost immediately There is no grace in real fights. Fartbox fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Feb 6, 2020 |
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Feb 6, 2020 08:16
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Bryan Alvarez, pro wrasslin' and mma journalist, has a theory there's like five legit martial arts. Boxing, wrestling, jiu-jitsu, Muay Thai and judo, I believe
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Feb 6, 2020 08:31
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What about dynamite?
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Feb 6, 2020 08:39
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Volcott posted:What about dynamite? Hey, as long as it works.
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Feb 6, 2020 08:46
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Randaconda posted:Bryan Alvarez, pro wrasslin' and mma journalist, has a theory there's like five legit martial arts. Boxing, wrestling, jiu-jitsu, Muay Thai and judo, I believe If we're just talking effective martial arts, there's a few more. Silat can be pretty effective. That's Silat you're seeing in The Raid, not Muay Thai. Like MMA, it has striking and takedowns and submissions. Also I would figure Russian Spetznaz Система is probably pretty effective boxing. But if we're talking like, categories of fighting, its basically just kickboxing or wrestling, or both (mma). Judo and Jiu-Jitsu are types of wrestling, Muay Thai is a type of boxing, etc.
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Feb 6, 2020 09:01
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Memento posted:Did you get it looked at? It's a fairly regular thing for MMA fighters to break their hands, they use smaller gloves so they can grapple, and they punch the poo poo out of each other. They usually need surgery afterwards. It's probably going to need surgery yeah. I'm waiting until I retire to a country with socialized medicine to get it done. The expense plus the recovery time making me unable to work just isn't feasible.
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Feb 6, 2020 09:25
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Nah it’s all about capoeira, the most practical and deadly of the martial arts
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Feb 6, 2020 09:26
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Zaphod42 posted:http://cavemancircus.com/2019/03/26/son-knocks-out-his-step-dad-for-calling-his-friend-the-n-word/ They say step-dad but you just know there are people watching this imagining he's beating the poo poo out of his actual biological father
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Feb 6, 2020 09:29
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Zaphod42 posted:If we're just talking effective martial arts, there's a few more. yeah, that makes sense
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Feb 6, 2020 09:33
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I think while his core style is based on Turtle Style Kung Fu, Goku definitely qualifies as a mixed martial artist having participated in tournaments against enemies with a wide and colourful variety of fighting styles, and trained under multiple teachers who never train him the same way twice. Also, I'm pretty sure demographics wise at the very least, MMA and Dragon Ball have like, 80% fanbase overlap.
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Feb 6, 2020 09:38
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Zaphod42 posted:If we're just talking effective martial arts, there's a few more. i think the best way to think about and classify these "categories of fighting" is by putting it into its context and purpose. I put fighting schools into three basic categories: stage fighting, sport fighting, and hand to hand self-defense. Stage fighting includes both dance and theatre, and examples would be Hong Kong Wushu as used in the films of Jackie Chan or in the WWE. It is characterized by exaggerated movements and cooperation between participants. Sport fighting includes stuff like MMA but also sumo. These martial arts feature real competition between practitioners. However they differ significantly from the next category in that the moves and techniques are constrained by the need to keep everyone safe and put on a good show. For the most part it doesn't make sense to argue something like western wresting is better or worse than judo, because both forms are constrained by different rules. Fundamentally even sports like MMA are a game. Finally self defense martial arts include krav maga and HEMA (historical European martial arts). Typically in addition to techniques used in boxing and wrestling, these schools will also train the use of weapons and disfiguring attacks like eye gouges that are obviously too dangerous to use in any sport. In theory these styles should be the most effective in self defense, since that is what they are meant for, but obviously its hard to test your deadly dick punch technique in the real world to find out. Interestingly i was looking at one Ming dynasty sword manual recently and it didn't look anything like modern chinese opera moves, but seemed very similar to early Modern European dueling treatises.
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Feb 6, 2020 10:49
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Oddly enough Jackie Chan movies are often praised for making fight scenes feel real since they involve use of improvised weapons, taking advantage of the environment, and in general having characters act in ways that feel realistic and sensible, with Jackie Chan's character generally a believable underdog rather than an unstoppable force plowing through endless thugs like a video game character.Squalid posted:Interestingly i was looking at one Ming dynasty sword manual recently and it didn't look anything like modern chinese opera moves, but seemed very similar to early Modern European dueling treatises. That doesn't surprise me, and the term that comes to mind is 'convergent evolution'; given similar enough circumstances, beings come up with the same solutions that work. I think it's interesting and a nice counter to orientalism and such othering; when you take material factors into consideration, people just ain't that different.
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Feb 6, 2020 10:55
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Pickled Tink posted:This is more complicated Schadenfreude, but I find it absolutely delightful myself: I recently had a run with the public health system though. Kidney stones. It was a cluster gently caress as the hospitals just didnt do the right thing. After 6 weeks of pissing blood and not being able to stand up i finally had my operation. (Which took like 30 mins) while im sitting on the recovery chair (and now uncontrollably pissing blood which even an untrained radiographor picked up when they looked at the last xray from the operation) the doctor the overlooked my operation (but didnt do it of course) was complaining how his senior had just told him to cancel 2 public patients and put in his private patient the next morning. So he was either getting in trouble (but not really) with admin, or getting in trouble (and not getting a job) with the senior doctor. So guess what he did? This is in a public hospital. I personally think there needs to be a complete separation of public and private in aus. If you go private, go get your surgery done in a private hospital.
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Feb 6, 2020 11:28
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Delthalaz posted:Nah it’s all about capoeira, the most practical and deadly of the martial arts Only The Strong is a documentary
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Feb 6, 2020 12:03
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What about Band of the Hand
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Feb 6, 2020 12:04
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This is why when you're taking your motorcycle driving test, they have you go around a bunch of koans
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Feb 6, 2020 12:25
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oh dope posted:This is why when you're taking your motorcycle driving test, they have you go around a bunch of koans 
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There was a security guard at the club I worked that was really REALLY into Wing Chung and slap boxing. Bopped him on the nose through all the arm waving poo poo in seconds. I even made a 'boop' sound for extra laugh. In other fighting news of sorts. Bare Knuckle Boxing is again legal in some states and I'm quite enjoying it. Below is a random fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lioGfnA70mM EDIT: I wonder if 'Felony Fights' is still a thing
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