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GSC Focus https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/05/the-greater-good-faction-focus-genestealer-cultsgw-homepage-post-1 Custom Cult Creeds (like Tyranids in BoB) Cult-specific powers (like Tyranids in BoB) * Twisted Helix power is like the Behemoth one but works on an enemy target rather than friendly unit. New CP1 strat to give Neophytes Assault 2 autoguns on arrival - which seems utterly pointless to mean because rapid fire already gives them two shots each and cult ambush generally means landing in range for that. xtothez fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Feb 5, 2020 |
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Custom cult is likely not going to do too much, but I’m reserving judgement till I see all the options. It’s probably going to be the novelty of the Nid rules. TH power is good, bordering on real good. It’s very short range and all psykers casting only one power means it’s going to be tough to squeeze in, as Mass Hypnosis is still the prime power to get off. Tossing a few familiars in might be a fine option. Assault 2 auto guns is pretty laughable for a CP, especially with no other bonus. “I can pay to get a mild benefit if my enemy is 13-24” away? Great!” If it became Rapid Fire 2 it might be more interesting but especially considering it does nothing to help with their better guns it’s just bad. I guess you might want to advance and shoot at 5+?
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Feb 5, 2020 16:10
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JBP posted:They're primaris. Basically using the whole thing where Cawl was like "haha um of course I didn't use traitor geneseed". Who gives a poo poo their brains don't work and they're travelling to the ghoul stars led by a primaris chapter master that has incurable nightmares while they burn perfectly fine imperial settlements just on the off chance there's a chaos incursion, all the while spoofing traitor comms for reasons of camouflage or disinformation. They can wear the skull and batwings if they like basically. Loyalist offshoots of traitor legions/traitor offshoots of loyalists is a long and honored warham tradition and also 100% the reason why Cawl's Vault Of Bad Guy Juice exists
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Feb 5, 2020 16:16
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That strat can only be used after a cult ambush, so no advance moves with it. Perhaps there's some other new rule that interacts with Assault type weapons, but I hope you're right and it's a misprint of Rapid Fire 2. Praying that custom traits can help make some lesser-used models viable like they did with Nids. Would be nice to see some general buffs to vehicles or brood brothers.
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Feb 5, 2020 16:18
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xtothez posted:That strat can only be used after a cult ambush, so no advance moves with it. Perhaps there's some other new rule that interacts with Assault type weapons, but I hope you're right and it's a misprint of Rapid Fire 2. Ah, you’re right on that. It’s even more useless. I have no idea how this would ever be helpful to anyone. I think in friendly games custom cults will be fun, but losing the specialized cult psychic powers and stratagems will likely be a deal-killer.
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Feb 5, 2020 16:22
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xtothez posted:That strat can only be used after a cult ambush, so no advance moves with it. Perhaps there's some other new rule that interacts with Assault type weapons, but I hope you're right and it's a misprint of Rapid Fire 2. Surely it's a misprint and it's supposed to be rapid fire 2? The description even talks about drowning people in a hail of Bullets.
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Feb 5, 2020 17:34
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Comedy option: 9E arrives this summer and nerfs Rapid Fire weapons so that you have to remain stationary to get double shots!
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Feb 5, 2020 17:56
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JBP posted:Yeah I agree, only downside is the admech box is maybe 300pts at a push versus ~500 for the Thousand Sons which is a very cost friendly starter. There were loyal bands of night Lord's in the heresy though they didn't get any named characters. so this works fine for having them be decended from the crimson sons or as part of cawl rolling out all 20 flavors of geneseed in secret so loyalist night Lord's are plenty fine lore wise and thematically reavers were either based on night Lord's or the ultramarines who hung out with the night Lord's too long and picked up their bad habits and eventually became the nemisis chapter.
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Feb 5, 2020 17:59
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xtothez posted:Comedy option: 9E arrives this summer and nerfs Rapid Fire weapons so that you have to remain stationary to get double shots! Not kidding this was one of the things they dropped from 3rd edition to 4th that I liked. Gave stuff like assault 2 shuriken catapults an actual niche as mobile close combat weapons.
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Feb 5, 2020 18:02
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PierreTheMime posted:I would strongly recommend Thousand Sons as a starter. Their Start Collecting box is a fantastic value (it includes Ahriman!) and with their new rules they have some really interesting/fun/powerful tricks, whereas AdMech are a very static gun line. They can be good, but they’re the Imperial Tau equivalent and might not be terribly interesting to start. Counter to this, if you play kill team its the opposite. Admech have tons of fun toys in kill team and thousand sons are kinda bland and featureless.
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Feb 5, 2020 18:02
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Tiger Millionaire posted:That is true, i forgot about Veridyan even though I've painted one in the lead up to the sisters hype. It feels like if you give a Cannonness the Wrath of the Emperor and the Blessed Blade you've actually got a pretty good CC character. At least for Sororitas.
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Feb 5, 2020 18:12
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Not kidding this was one of the things they dropped from 3rd edition to 4th that I liked. To be fair Assault 2 guns with 18" range still has a place in normal movement because you can advance and shoot, and if you combine that with a special rule letting you fall back and shoot you can kite stuff. Problem in this specific case is because it only applies out of ambush those uses can't happen.
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Feb 5, 2020 18:12
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How many old-school Necron Lord miniatures are there? I know about the one with the single-bladed staff in the left hand who’s pointing with his right hand, the one with the dual-bladed staff in his right hand with the resurrection orb in his left hand, the old 2nd Edition “Assholetep” model, but it seems there was a 4th one? I’ve been stumbling across this model on eBay and it shows up a couple times if you google image search “Necron lord metal”. What’s it from? 
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Feb 5, 2020 19:02
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Xenomrph posted:How many old-school Necron Lord miniatures are there? I know about the one with the single-bladed staff in the left hand who’s pointing with his right hand, the one with the dual-bladed staff in his right hand with the resurrection orb in his left hand, the old 2nd Edition “Assholetep” model, but it seems there was a 4th one? I’ve been stumbling across this model on eBay and it shows up a couple times if you google image search “Necron lord metal”. What’s it from? According to this: http://www.solegends.com/citle2000/armyboxes/16necrlord/index.htm looks like it's from the 2002 army box  Unsure if it was ever sold separately
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Feb 5, 2020 19:23
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i just want angron, new berserker models and more world eater stuff to flesh them out into a full army like they did thousand sons and death guard  "What would you know of struggle, Perfect Son? When have you fought against the mutilation of your mind? When have you had to do anything more than tally compliances and polish your armour?" [...] "The people of your world named you Great One. The people of mine called me Slave. Which one of us landed on a paradise of civilization to be raised by a foster father, Roboute? Which one of us was given armies to lead after training in the halls of the Macraggian high-riders? Which one of us inherited a strong, cultured kingdom? And which one of us had to rise up against a kingdom with nothing but a horde of starving slaves? Which one of us was a child enslaved on a world of monsters, with his brain cut up by carving knives? Listen to your blue-clad wretches yelling of courage and honour, courage and honour, courage and honour. Do you even know the meaning of those words? Courage is fighting the kingdom which enslaves you, no matter that their armies outnumber yours by ten-thousand to one. You know nothing of courage. Honour is resisting a tyrant when all others suckle and grow fat on the hypocrisy he feeds them. You know nothing of honour."
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Feb 5, 2020 20:26
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Somehow Angron and the damned world eaters got the well written Horus heresy books. I do love that in one of his more lucid moments he says that if he didn’t have the nails driving him insane Horus could go screw but he would still try and kill the emperor for being a horrific tyrannical monster.
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Feb 5, 2020 22:50
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Percelus posted:i just want angron, new berserker models and more world eater stuff to flesh them out into a full army like they did thousand sons and death guard Totally agree, khorne needs some love too. ... right after they update the emperor's children and noise marines!!!
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Feb 5, 2020 23:00
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Zaphod42 posted:Totally agree, khorne needs some love too. I'm certain there was a box set with big new berserkers in it and then they never released the models more generally. Also yeah, full tsons/dg range for EC please.
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Feb 5, 2020 23:02
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JBP posted:I'm certain there was a box set with big new berserkers in it and then they never released the models more generally. Also yeah, full tsons/dg range for EC please. Ideally more DG than TSons. TSons is a little anaemic range wise and relies heavily on AoS transplants, which I don’t mind so much but I know some people don’t. Though both EC and WE would have the recent wave of CSM stuff grandfathered in, unlike DG and TSons.
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Milotic posted:Ideally more DG than TSons. TSons is a little anaemic range wise and relies heavily on AoS transplants, which I don’t mind so much but I know some people don’t. Though both EC and WE would have the recent wave of CSM stuff grandfathered in, unlike DG and TSons. Its hard to complain compared to the old days of having to buy some lovely finecast sprue to modify tacticals into rubrics, the new sculpts are loving amazing. Also Rubrics got bigmarine models before Chaos Marines did. But yeah, between the two it feels like DG got the most love. So many new units!
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Feb 6, 2020 00:11
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Zaphod42 posted:So many new units! *cries in Imperial Guard*
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Feb 6, 2020 01:15
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Guard must be due for something in the near future. Considering that everyone else is getting new units (some by the truckload) you'd hope that they'd be looking at some post-Cadia releases. I'd love to see some Cadian Sector veterans or something with better sculpts and maybe a more ragged look to them.
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Percelus posted:"What would you know of struggle, Perfect Son? When have you fought against the mutilation of your mind? When have you had to do anything more than tally compliances and polish your armour?" [...] "The people of your world named you Great One. The people of mine called me Slave. Which one of us landed on a paradise of civilization to be raised by a foster father, Roboute? Which one of us was given armies to lead after training in the halls of the Macraggian high-riders? Which one of us inherited a strong, cultured kingdom? And which one of us had to rise up against a kingdom with nothing but a horde of starving slaves? Which one of us was a child enslaved on a world of monsters, with his brain cut up by carving knives? Listen to your blue-clad wretches yelling of courage and honour, courage and honour, courage and honour. Do you even know the meaning of those words? Courage is fighting the kingdom which enslaves you, no matter that their armies outnumber yours by ten-thousand to one. You know nothing of courage. Honour is resisting a tyrant when all others suckle and grow fat on the hypocrisy he feeds them. You know nothing of honour." Can't post this without the response - "You’re still a slave, Angron. Enslaved by your past, blind to the future. Too hateful to learn. Too spiteful to prosper."
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JBP posted:Guard must be due for something in the near future. Considering that everyone else is getting new units (some by the truckload) you'd hope that they'd be looking at some post-Cadia releases. I'd love to see some Cadian Sector veterans or something with better sculpts and maybe a more ragged look to them. Scions seem to be the big thing for guard. It's what GW are pushing anyway.
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Feb 6, 2020 02:01
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If you're thinking of today's Regimental Standard I just think they get some new rules in the new PA book and shouldn't really be taken as indication for anything massive I feel. 
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Feb 6, 2020 02:16
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Foul Ole Ron posted:Scions seem to be the big thing for guard. It's what GW are pushing anyway. Scions were Primaris beta
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Feb 6, 2020 02:17
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JackMann posted:No problem! Thanks a bunch! I'll try to post pictures when I eventually get around to trying it out! Need to decide if I want to go with a more tradition blue color or an orange/yellow fire-like scheme.
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Feb 6, 2020 02:18
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Foul Ole Ron posted:Scions seem to be the big thing for guard. It's what GW are pushing anyway. Yeah. I think scions are cool and I think guard tanks are all fine, but I'd love to see some updated regular infantry.
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Feb 6, 2020 02:47
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Guardsmen with the same socket and ball mount for heads would open up for some great conversions considering that stuff is essentially standardised by this point. Also I would've loved Scions more if they weren't such a pain in the rear end to assemble with lasrifles.
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Feb 6, 2020 02:52
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Aren't the Catachans and Cadians the oldest multipart plastic infantry kits around now? I recall one of them was the first kit if it's kind, I think guardians were the other of the first three. I think everything else was released afterward, or has been updated since.
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Feb 6, 2020 02:55
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Catachans are from like 1997 or something. Guardians are up there too. I think it's kind of dumb that GW hasn't updated the existing guard infantry range and even gone on to release more variants. A new range really only needs three kits - command squad, infantry squad, and heavy weapons squad. Throw in some spare bits for vehicle commanders and maybe even a sentinel pilot here or there and you're good to go. Scions have replaced stromtroopers/kasrkin so there's no need to do variant kits there. All the vehicles are shared, ogryns and ratlings are their own things, etc. Gimme plastic vostroyans, GW. 
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Feb 6, 2020 03:07
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I'm pretty sure the last kit update guard got was a non-visual update to the Leman Russ turret that made it harder to swap cannons.
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Safety Factor posted:vostroyans Anvil Industries does pretty good Vostroyans in multi-part resin 
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I think those are 40k British Guard.
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goose willis posted:Anvil Industries does pretty good Vostroyans in multi-part resin I like Anvil Industries but that looks like if you literally mashed Mordians, Praetorians, and Vostroyans into one model.
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Feb 6, 2020 05:03
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See they got all your out of print bases covered in one
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So I guess this isn't competitive or good but it seems fun as poo poo, has great models and its like 1700pts for ~$550aud new, which is very good monetary value. I might get half of this stuff for my birthday because I'm an idiot and make this list. Thousand Sons Battalion: Ahriman Daemon Prince 2 x 10 man Rubrics 1 x 10 Tzaangors 5 Scarab Occult Terminators Supreme Command: 3 x Exalted Sorcerers from the sorc box Magnus Then just toss in some anti tank or whatever and have fun doing spells. Maybe a mutalith beast or something else that looks rad just to have a really nice compact force to work on without requiring 120 models. Also easy to break the force into 2 battalions and milk some CP.
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PinheadSlim posted:I like Anvil Industries but that looks like if you literally mashed Mordians, Praetorians, and Vostroyans into one model. They're these guys with extra grimdark detail 
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/06/the-greater-good-astra-militarum-faction-focusgw-homepage-post-4/ Speaking of which, the Flashlight boys faction focus is up.
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