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Zushio
May 8, 2008

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LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Devils Affricate posted:

It's weird to me that they don't have a common slang term more synonymous with weeb. I imagine most Japanese are very aware of the nerdy white people who are obsessed with their country, since a lot of them end up traveling there and bothering people.

There's very little awareness. As a typical Japanese person you will have basically 0 interaction with obnoxious weeb types... ever. They come and hang out in tourist areas and do tourist stuff, and that's about it. If you're socially unskilled enough to be immediately identifiable as what we consider a weeb then you're not likely to live in Japan long term or venture out of tourist-heavy areas at all.

There's a very general awareness that there are some people who *really really* like Japan and are a bit weird about it, but it's not such a significant part of peoples' interactions that they need to have a term for it.

I lived in Japan for 12 years and can not think of single time I actually had to meaningfully interact (or go out of my way to avoid interaction) with someone who was out and out obnoxiously weeby. At most I would see some fat American looking types with anime buttons and stuff walking down the street of one of the major areas in Tokyo.

Moreover weeb etc. are very much based heavily in internet culture, and since Japan has that critical mass to create their own internet culture and sites, in Japanese and de facto walled off from interaction with English/international internet culture, there's not as much awareness overall. There might be some more recent/modern internet slang that's spot-on with weeb that I'm just not yet aware of, however.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

BrainDance posted:

If your clientele is made up of people who may have recently come from China wouldn't it be sensible for them to wear masks outside of China to prevent potentially infecting other people?

I'm not going to the Chinese market until this all blows over. Silly, but I would hate to bring something back to my toddler.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E

Blistex posted:

I'm not going to the Chinese market until this all blows over. Silly, but I would hate to bring something back to my toddler.

that Chinese market is going to be closed by the time this blows over. Just pay someone to go in your stead.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

My little stories that add nothing to a couple of recent topics:

When I lived and worked in Yokohama, one day at the school some of the English teachers were talking in the break room about perverts. The Japanese staff listening didn't know what "pervert" meant, and so asked us what it meant. Nobody really wanted to explain it, because we didn't want to embarrass ourselves and the nice 20 something girls who were innocent of this word. Eventually somebody said that it was similar to "otaku". The girls giggled and nodded, and understood.

LimburgLimbo posted:

There's very little awareness. As a typical Japanese person you will have basically 0 interaction with obnoxious weeb types... ever. They come and hang out in tourist areas and do tourist stuff, and that's about it. If you're socially unskilled enough to be immediately identifiable as what we consider a weeb then you're not likely to live in Japan long term or venture out of tourist-heavy areas at all.

There's a very general awareness that there are some people who *really really* like Japan and are a bit weird about it, but it's not such a significant part of peoples' interactions that they need to have a term for it.

I lived in Japan for 12 years and can not think of single time I actually had to meaningfully interact (or go out of my way to avoid interaction) with someone who was out and out obnoxiously weeby. At most I would see some fat American looking types with anime buttons and stuff walking down the street of one of the major areas in Tokyo.

Moreover weeb etc. are very much based heavily in internet culture, and since Japan has that critical mass to create their own internet culture and sites, in Japanese and de facto walled off from interaction with English/international internet culture, there's not as much awareness overall. There might be some more recent/modern internet slang that's spot-on with weeb that I'm just not yet aware of, however.

To add a little to this. One of my room-mates in Yokohama was a little bit of a weeb. And he would say that amongst the Japanese people he interacted with, they would always be astonished that he, a grown man from Brisbane, was intested in and knew so much about a bunch of childrens cartoons from their youth. And to tar myself with the same brush, one of my Japanese friends found it hilarious that I, also a grown man, was interested in and knew so much about Anpanman. (The reason being he is a superhero with a red-bean bun for a head whose major enemy is bacteria, and he would rip pieces off himself to offer to the children he saved. How cool is that?)

And my Chinese making GBS threads stories. I saw a mother holding a baby, (who was wearing one of those pants with the split arse), over a rubbish bin in the subway in both Chengdu and Fuzhou.

And on public toilets in China, the dirty squatters didn't bother me too much. Nor did the lack of soap, water, and/or toilet paper because you learn to adapt. What shat me the most was the often times lack of doors in the stalls. In my last school in Jian'ou, (a tiny town near Nanping), the toilets at the school didn't even have dividers between the stalls. So if I needed a poo poo during work hours, I would be sat there squatting hoping desperately and futilely that a 14 year old boy wouldn't walk past me and gawk at the fat foreigner doing his stinky business.

BrigadierSensible fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Feb 6, 2020

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

On the opposite end of the spectrum to bad chinese bathrooms I went to a club in Shanghai and the bathroom attendant started massaging my shoulders as I pissed in the urinal. I went with it and found it very relaxing.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
Imagine getting a shoulder massage through glory holes while pooping. Also verbal support.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
The toilets at Ueno station were legendary, Tokyo craigslist had years worth of insane ramblings about them, it's a shame they were not preserved for future generations to read about Ueno cock suckers.

less than three
Aug 9, 2007



Fallen Rib
My office used to be HSBC and they had metal "do not stand or squat over the toilet" signs in each stall.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Just renewed my visa in Bangkok. They had people taking temperatures at the door to the immigration center. But if you didn't want your temperature checked you could just go in the back door.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Blistex posted:

The last time my wife went back to China (4 years ago) she stopped off at a mall to pick up some stuff and had to use the bathroom. When she went inside there was a granny emptying the liquid hand soap dispenser into an empty Sprite bottle.

This is, without irony or exaggeration, the main reason for lack of soap / towels in most 'prosperous' China region toilets.

In poor areas they just don't have the budget / inclination. In rich areas they do, but if they ever put stuff out it will be stolen by ayis.
Some places have started to use "facial recognition toilet paper dispensers" to foil this. It's an arms race that surely the ayis will eventually win, because the ayis always win.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Are you suggesting that poverty can't be solved solely by building infrastructure

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Fojar38 posted:

Are you suggesting that poverty can't be solved solely by building infrastructure

Certainly not if ayis are involved

Edit:
Slightly more seriously, a huge way that China will be improved is first when the current crop of Olds die off, and second when the current crop of late-middle-aged die off.

Lots of progress that just can't happen before then.

Atopian fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Feb 6, 2020

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Atopian posted:

Certainly not if ayis are involved

Edit:
Slightly more seriously, a huge way that China will be improved is first when the current crop of Olds die off, and second when the current crop of late-middle-aged die off.

Lots of progress that just can't happen before then.

good news on that front

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Everything happens faster in China

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
What is the deal with Ayis?

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E

less than three posted:

My office used to be HSBC and they had metal "do not stand or squat over the toilet" signs in each stall.

Now I want to try this just to see if I can even do it. Number 1 would probably be pretty hard compared to number 2.

Patrocclesiastes
Apr 30, 2009

Ive drunkenly fell asleep in the ueno station toilet. Friends got me out before anyone else.

Im thinking of touring the Japanese country side on a motorcycle, how much should i expect disdain as a foreigner, i know enough japanese to survive but cant carry much of a conversation.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

What is the deal with Ayis?

They're the most selfish, impatient, destructive, and wasteful things on this Earth. The worst example I witnessed was a horde of them trampling a bunch of toddlers because they were in a rush to get some samples. "What were these coveted samples" you might ask?

Children's books.

A bookstore in Shenyang was giving out one per child and the old ladies rushed the table they set up in front of the store, sending the several small children that were lined up waiting to the wind. It looked like a dozen people each threw a bowling ball down the lane at the same time.

Worst example I heard about was a food bank in the US giving out big bags of food, and naturally the bored Chinese grannies dominated the queue. They were so shameless that they were throwing the goods they didn't like in a trash can just a few feet away. The video used to be on YouTube, but I can't find it anymore.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Kharnifex posted:

The toilets at Ueno station were legendary, Tokyo craigslist had years worth of insane ramblings about them, it's a shame they were not preserved for future generations to read about Ueno cock suckers.

googling "Ueno toilet stall" and "Ueno cock suckers" didn't get me anywhere so I'd like to know more.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Patrocclesiastes posted:

Ive drunkenly fell asleep in the ueno station toilet. Friends got me out before anyone else.

Im thinking of touring the Japanese country side on a motorcycle, how much should i expect disdain as a foreigner, i know enough japanese to survive but cant carry much of a conversation.

I don't think they'd care much either way. Money's money.

I'm planning an onsen/hanami crawl up the west coast in September, so hopefully I won't be thrown out.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Patrocclesiastes posted:

Im thinking of touring the Japanese country side on a motorcycle, how much should i expect disdain as a foreigner, i know enough japanese to survive but cant carry much of a conversation.

Same as anywhere, pretty much none if you don't act like a dickhead. Just accept that you are inevitably going to get stuck behind a kei truck driven by an old, doing 20 under the limit on a two-lane road with no passing zones.

Having a bike is kind of an "in" and can be a nice conversation starter with other bikers. Something I try and do is have an album on my phone that has some of my old bikes/travel pics to augment my limited Japanese. Some local, hole-in-the-wall places will have handwritten, wall-of-text menus with no pictures to help you; if you can read katakana that will help with menus, although there are some OCR/translate apps that use your phone's camera that can help.

Rider's Houses are kinda like hostels for cyclists/motorcyclists and worth seeking out. They're a pretty good value for money but also a great way to meet other motorcyclists. Campgrounds tend to nicer than you'd expect - the average Japanese person's conception of camping is basically bringing a portable version of their living room with them.

I read a hilarious post somewhere on reddit a year or two ago where someone insisted you could not possibly hope to free camp anywhere in country because there's an ojiisan behind every rock in the country or something. Suffice to say that's not the case, not sure on the legality, but I never had a problem finding an out of the way place to pitch a tent if I didn't feel like a proper campground. Onsens are a good place to shower if you go this route.

Finally, don't be like my mate and fill your bike with diesel (軽油, the green one). I left Japan almost 6 years ago and I still double check every time I fill up with a green nozzle :v:

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

D-Pad posted:

On the opposite end of the spectrum to bad chinese bathrooms I went to a club in Shanghai and the bathroom attendant started massaging my shoulders as I pissed in the urinal. I went with it and found it very relaxing.

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Despera
Jun 6, 2011

Blistex posted:

They're the most selfish, impatient, destructive, and wasteful things on this Earth. The worst example I witnessed was a horde of them trampling a bunch of toddlers because they were in a rush to get some samples. "What were these coveted samples" you might ask?

Children's books.

A bookstore in Shenyang was giving out one per child and the old ladies rushed the table they set up in front of the store, sending the several small children that were lined up waiting to the wind. It looked like a dozen people each threw a bowling ball down the lane at the same time.

Worst example I heard about was a food bank in the US giving out big bags of food, and naturally the bored Chinese grannies dominated the queue. They were so shameless that they were throwing the goods they didn't like in a trash can just a few feet away. The video used to be on YouTube, but I can't find it anymore.

Now I'm glad that drone yelled at that auntie.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

A beautiful world with beautiful places to visit

Barudak fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Jun 28, 2021

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
The Something Awful Forums > Main > General Bullshit > Chinathread: I went to a club in Shanghai and the bathroom attendant started massaging my shoulders as I pissed in the urinal. I went with it and found it very relaxing.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
its okay to be gay

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Atopian posted:

Certainly not if ayis are involved

Edit:
Slightly more seriously, a huge way that China will be improved is first when the current crop of Olds die off, and second when the current crop of late-middle-aged die off.

Lots of progress that just can't happen before then.

That sounds very familiar...

ntan1
Apr 29, 2009

sempai noticed me

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Same as anywhere, pretty much none if you don't act like a dickhead. Just accept that you are inevitably going to get stuck behind a kei truck driven by an old, doing 20 under the limit on a two-lane road with no passing zones.

This is no joke why there's a bunch of road rage popping up in Japan now.

Them oyaji (kei trucks going 20 under the limit is my experience too).

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS

GoutPatrol posted:

googling "Ueno toilet stall" and "Ueno cock suckers" didn't get me anywhere so I'd like to know more.

Yeah it's really sad that no one documented it.

I think it was someone who had issues, or several people, writing page long rants about Ueno cocksuckers, and the male toilets at Ueno station.

Some were pretty hilarious, like advertising the toilet block as an accommodation and the fees being cocksucking.

Perhaps it was a beat and the guy stumbled on something?

The English was slightly off too, so I'm thinking it may have been an expat from a non English speaking country or a native.

buildmorefarms
Aug 13, 2004

любоваться
Doctor Rope

bob dobbs is dead posted:

good news on that front

Goddamn :discourse:

Anecdotally, my honeymoon was in Tokyo/Osaka/Kyoto, and we were floored by how well maintained and numerous the public toilets were (counting stations, standalone, and convenience stores etc.) at least when compared to Australia.

When you're in a bind, just knowing that there's toilets almost everywhere - that aren't complete horrorshows - is enough

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

D-Pad posted:

On the opposite end of the spectrum to bad chinese bathrooms I went to a club in Shanghai and the bathroom attendant started massaging my shoulders as I pissed in the urinal. I went with it and found it very relaxing.

Is this where we tell you the club didn't have attendants?







D-Pad posted:

I went to a club in Shanghai and got touched up by a pervert while I was peeing.

Patrocclesiastes
Apr 30, 2009

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Same as anywhere, pretty much none if you don't act like a dickhead. Just accept that you are inevitably going to get stuck behind a kei truck driven by an old, doing 20 under the limit on a two-lane road with no passing zones.

Having a bike is kind of an "in" and can be a nice conversation starter with other bikers. Something I try and do is have an album on my phone that has some of my old bikes/travel pics to augment my limited Japanese. Some local, hole-in-the-wall places will have handwritten, wall-of-text menus with no pictures to help you; if you can read katakana that will help with menus, although there are some OCR/translate apps that use your phone's camera that can help.

Rider's Houses are kinda like hostels for cyclists/motorcyclists and worth seeking out. They're a pretty good value for money but also a great way to meet other motorcyclists. Campgrounds tend to nicer than you'd expect - the average Japanese person's conception of camping is basically bringing a portable version of their living room with them.

I read a hilarious post somewhere on reddit a year or two ago where someone insisted you could not possibly hope to free camp anywhere in country because there's an ojiisan behind every rock in the country or something. Suffice to say that's not the case, not sure on the legality, but I never had a problem finding an out of the way place to pitch a tent if I didn't feel like a proper campground. Onsens are a good place to shower if you go this route.

Finally, don't be like my mate and fill your bike with diesel (軽油, the green one). I left Japan almost 6 years ago and I still double check every time I fill up with a green nozzle :v:

Oh hey thanks, great post! Yeah i read yellow is premium gasoline. I was thinking of either hotels or riders houses. Dont really want to try camping on the first go around. Japanese camping is indeed hilarious based on the youtube videos ive seen.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Camping in Japanese campgrounds is terrible, they do this crazy wake up call poo poo and March people out.

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

Blistex posted:

They're the most selfish, impatient, destructive, and wasteful things on this Earth. The worst example I witnessed was a horde of them trampling a bunch of toddlers because they were in a rush to get some samples. "What were these coveted samples" you might ask?

Children's books.

A bookstore in Shenyang was giving out one per child and the old ladies rushed the table they set up in front of the store, sending the several small children that were lined up waiting to the wind. It looked like a dozen people each threw a bowling ball down the lane at the same time.

Worst example I heard about was a food bank in the US giving out big bags of food, and naturally the bored Chinese grannies dominated the queue. They were so shameless that they were throwing the goods they didn't like in a trash can just a few feet away. The video used to be on YouTube, but I can't find it anymore.
I once saw a horde of aunties descend on a table of discounted chicken hearts like a biblical plague of locusts, it was absolute chaos.

Quasi-related to aunties, that reminds me - I'm guessing goons have more sense to, but did anyone ever visit any major tourist attractions/landmarks during May Day? I thankfully never did but seeing photos like this, I cannot even imagine how aggravating that must've been.


Wonder what the "bathrooms" looked like after...:thunk:

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

sticksy posted:

I once saw a horde of aunties descend on a table of discounted chicken hearts like a biblical plague of locusts, it was absolute chaos.

Quasi-related to aunties, that reminds me - I'm guessing goons have more sense to, but did anyone ever visit any major tourist attractions/landmarks during May Day? I thankfully never did but seeing photos like this, I cannot even imagine how aggravating that must've been.


Wonder what the "bathrooms" looked like after...:thunk:

Swai Guh

Everywhere is a bathroom

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

sticksy posted:

Quasi-related to aunties, that reminds me - I'm guessing goons have more sense to, but did anyone ever visit any major tourist attractions/landmarks during May Day? I thankfully never did but seeing photos like this, I cannot even imagine how aggravating that must've been.


It's a famous place, therefore you are enjoying it (gaining face by taking the same picture everyone else takes). If there are no people around it cannot be a famous place, which means you're not enjoying it.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Is this where we tell you the club didn't have attendants?

I did consider that, but he was in there all night doing attendant things for everybody. Even if he wasn't I found it acceptable after the initial wtf.

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs

Pompous Rhombus posted:

I read a hilarious post somewhere on reddit a year or two ago where someone insisted you could not possibly hope to free camp anywhere in country because there's an ojiisan behind every rock in the country or something.

when his teaching stint was over, a buddy of mine traveled through Japan and would just lay out his sleeping bag in the city center of wherever he was at the time. apparently the cops would very politely wake him up in the morning and ask him to move along.

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oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
:rip:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795

quote:

A Chinese doctor who tried to issue the first warnings about the deadly coronavirus outbreak has died of the infection, Chinese media say.

Li Wenliang was working as an ophthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital when he sent out a warning to fellow medics on 30 December.

Police then visited him to tell him to stop, as authorities tried to keep the news under wraps.

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