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EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:

CCTV has apparently just confirmed he has died.

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Forget it Jake, it's Wuhan. (doc is dead.)

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

"Great job updating models" means line fitting relying entirely on the officially released Chinese numbers which are at best absolutely the bare minimum, realistically are at least half an order of magnitude and at worst are more than one orders of magnitude lagging what's actually happening?

Because 20,000 people have a seasonal flu and now Hubei is transporting patients to quarantine camps "hospitals" where they are being allowed to die and the bodies are immediately being incinerated?

People - epidemiologists who are at the top of their fields - are quietly very, very worried about this. Ignoring what the Chinese health authorities are saying, instead watching what they're actually doing, these numbers are being curated and leaked in such a way as to not unleash an absolute tidal wave of panic but health authorities are absolutely freaking out. 50 million citizens under house arrest?

If it spreads as easily as it seems and can also transmit when you’re not showing symptoms there’s literally nothing we can do but wait for it to burn itself out by infecting basically everyone.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

i am harry posted:

I haven’t read this yet but I have a sub so I’ve pasted it all:

65 million dead. don't worry, the virus in our model is only very similar to coronavirus.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
CCTV has no incentive to say he dead if he werent.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray
i will give my body and life to the virus, willingly. this way it shall be appeased, and many moons shall pass before it requires another sacrifice

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Don't know if anyone here reads the Sinocism newsletter but this edition has tons of great articles and data about the outbreak and related issues: https://sinocism.com/p/reports-of-the-death-dr-li-wenliang?r=2e&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=twitter

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

Play posted:

i will give my body and life to the virus, willingly. this way it shall be appeased, and many moons shall pass before it requires another sacrifice

This is 2020, the exchange rate for human souls to godly intervention is way more than that.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Play posted:

i will give my body and life to the virus, willingly. this way it shall be appeased, and many moons shall pass before it requires another sacrifice

Papa Nurgle welcomes you into the fold.





This might be what kicks off Warhammer.

Nurge
Feb 4, 2009

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Papa Nurgle welcomes you into the fold.





This might be what kicks off Warhammer.

Look I'm sick as poo poo over here too.

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!
I hope I get the flu, how can I get infected without flying to China?

Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

serious norman posted:

I hope I get the flu, how can I get infected without flying to China?
Lick doorknobs at an Urgent Care?

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?
Good news

https://twitter.com/WSJopinion/status/1225514896315551744

Sjs00
Jun 29, 2013

Yeah Baby Yeah !

serious norman posted:

I hope I get the flu, how can I get infected without flying to China?

Get 100 people to sneeze on you at the airport

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!

Sjs00 posted:

Get 100 people to sneeze on you at the airport

Nah might get something else. I want this specfic flu.

Sjs00
Jun 29, 2013

Yeah Baby Yeah !

serious norman posted:

Nah might get something else. I want this specfic flu.

Order several things from the Chinese province most likely to have infected workers? Wuhan is it?

Jamsta
Dec 16, 2006

Oh you want some too? Fuck you!

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

"Great job updating models" means line fitting relying entirely on the officially released Chinese numbers which are at best absolutely the bare minimum, realistically are at least half an order of magnitude and at worst are more than one orders of magnitude lagging what's actually happening?

Because 20,000 people have a seasonal flu and now Hubei is transporting patients to quarantine camps "hospitals" where they are being allowed to die and the bodies are immediately being incinerated?

People - epidemiologists who are at the top of their fields - are quietly very, very worried about this. Ignoring what the Chinese health authorities are saying, instead watching what they're actually doing, these numbers are being curated and leaked in such a way as to not unleash an absolute tidal wave of panic but health authorities are absolutely freaking out. 50 million citizens under house arrest?

never trust a post with a JT avatar. yer mums a teef

mitztronic
Jun 17, 2005

mixcloud.com/mitztronic

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

"Great job updating models" means line fitting relying entirely on the officially released Chinese numbers which are at best absolutely the bare minimum, realistically are at least half an order of magnitude and at worst are more than one orders of magnitude lagging what's actually happening?

Because 20,000 people have a seasonal flu and now Hubei is transporting patients to quarantine camps "hospitals" where they are being allowed to die and the bodies are immediately being incinerated?

People - epidemiologists who are at the top of their fields - are quietly very, very worried about this. Ignoring what the Chinese health authorities are saying, instead watching what they're actually doing, these numbers are being curated and leaked in such a way as to not unleash an absolute tidal wave of panic but health authorities are absolutely freaking out. 50 million citizens under house arrest?

Hi. Just to clear this up: literally nothing spreads 'geometrically'. It's a ridiculous statement to make.

Infections in China are obviously being under reported, by estimates between 80-95% depending on your source and the date the analysis was performed. This has nothing to do with what types of models can actually be used, but I guess... thanks for agreeing with me on this? :confused:

What I DID post was a link to examples of actual modeling that you can do for this virus. They are called exponential and sigmoidal. He updates them almost daily so you can follow along. *It doesn't matter that these are based on the numbers China has been releasing.* . These things are not related. There is use to data modeling with incomplete data. Do you want to get into that discussion?

quote:

yeah dude definitely

Good, you can read: Viruses do not spread geometrically.

mitztronic fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Feb 6, 2020

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

it's going to be real interesting when the country where everyone is armed to the teeth starts thinking that anyone sneezing is a deadly contagious zombie out to infect them

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


mitztronic posted:

Hi. Just to clear this up: literally nothing spreads 'geometrically'. It's a ridiculous statement to make.

Infections in China are obviously being under reported, by estimates between 80-95% depending on your source and the date the analysis was performed. This has nothing to do with what types of models can actually be used, but I guess... thanks for agreeing with me on this? :confused:

What I DID post was a link to examples of actual modeling that you can do for this virus. They are called exponential and sigmoidal. He updates them almost daily so you can follow along. *It doesn't matter that these are based on the numbers China has been releasing.* . These things are not related. There is use to data modeling with incomplete data. Do you want to get into that discussion?


Good, you can read: Viruses do not spread geometrically.

he straight up says that they aren’t real models and chose them solely because they look nice

DrLaserfalcon
Nov 7, 2010

serious norman posted:

Nah might get something else. I want this specfic flu.


I've actually considered this. Can you walk into the CDC in Atlanta and ask them for a dose of corona in exchange for them studying you?

Nurge
Feb 4, 2009

by Reene
Fun Shoe

mitztronic posted:

Hi. Just to clear this up: literally nothing spreads 'geometrically'. It's a ridiculous statement to make.

Infections in China are obviously being under reported, by estimates between 80-95% depending on your source and the date the analysis was performed. This has nothing to do with what types of models can actually be used, but I guess... thanks for agreeing with me on this? :confused:

What I DID post was a link to examples of actual modeling that you can do for this virus. They are called exponential and sigmoidal. He updates them almost daily so you can follow along. *It doesn't matter that these are based on the numbers China has been releasing.* . These things are not related. There is use to data modeling with incomplete data. Do you want to get into that discussion?


Good, you can read: Viruses do not spread geometrically.

I don't really understand this statement. If we assume that one infected person infects 2.5 people on average it's a geometric series where r = 2.5 at least as far as I can see. Of course r, whatever that number actually is, is going to change at some point once everyone that can be infected within an area has been, but it seems like a clear geometric progression to me.

mitztronic
Jun 17, 2005

mixcloud.com/mitztronic

PIZZA.BAT posted:

he straight up says that they aren’t real models and chose them solely because they look nice

Yes, I never said they were good models. I said he does a good job updating them every day. You misread my post:

mitztronic posted:

this guy has been doing a great job updating models:

He's using actual virus transmission models in his fittings. Hope this clears everything up? There are no 'good' models right now, only layers of bad models ranging from 'completely ridiculous' (e.g. your claim of geometric) to 'scientific, but the data is incomplete' (what I posted)

I still contend no virus transmit 'geometrically'. Where did you get your claim from? You seem very convinced I'd love to see your source.

Nurge posted:

I don't really understand this statement. If we assume that one infected person infects 2.5 people on average it's a geometric series where r = 2.5 at least as far as I can see. Of course r, whatever that number actually is, is going to change at some point once everyone that can be infected within an area has been, but it seems like a clear geometric progression to me.

It's exponential*.

Edit: *right now: Viral infections spread exponentially when the basic reproduction rate is greater than 1

mitztronic fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Feb 6, 2020

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




Despera posted:

CCTV has no incentive to say he dead if he werent.

The original article was a correction on his status when I posted it... definitely dead now.

Nurge
Feb 4, 2009

by Reene
Fun Shoe

mitztronic posted:


I still contend no virus transmit 'geometrically'. Where did you get your claim from? You seem very convinced I'd love to see your source.


It's exponential.

Yes. Geometric progression is exponential apart from one or two corner cases. I don't understand why you hate that term so much, since it fits.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Also not a great sign when the only healthy 34 year old to get it(that we know of) dies.

Tindahbawx
Oct 14, 2011

Here so what's the craic with these videos of people just straight up collapsing in the street? Is that the coronavirus or just people finding some video from something else, and reposting them to Twitter and saying it's coronavirus?

I wish I could understand what they're saying in them but it's all Chinese to me.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

Apparently that’s what happens when you experience a cytokine storm? Your lungs get flooded with antibodies and you die and shake around. How you can be walking about at that point I have absolutely no idea it’s creepy as poo poo.

Also do we know if that doctor definitely had no underlying issues? 34 year old doctor is outside the realm of people you’d expect to die. Brutal.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






I would imagine medical staff are high risk in general on account of being in an environment flooded with germs, and also permanently exhausted, most of the time.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

I cant even imagine a world where toys and electrics products are not "made in china"

we are not ready economically

china is going to ate some gigantic backlash for this, and honestly, I think a lot of it is deserved, .... of course they don't deserve inhuman or racist treatment but they hosed up


I think (hope) that the virus will be less letal in the western world

maybe is time to start cleaning hands after entering home, wearing some gloves, ... is possible that the virus is already in our country / undetected

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

Bape Culture posted:

Also do we know if that doctor definitely had no underlying issues? 34 year old doctor is outside the realm of people you’d expect to die. Brutal.

Unfortunately even the seasonal flu does that.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/health/flu-ohio-teen-kaylee-roberts-death-eprise/index.html

e: but yes the coronavirus is looking worse so far

SpaceGoatFarts fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Feb 6, 2020

frogge
Apr 7, 2006


Are we all dead yet?

Chemtrail
Dec 29, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.

Bape Culture posted:

Also do we know if that doctor definitely had no underlying issues? 34 year old doctor is outside the realm of people you’d expect to die. Brutal.

Many doctors are mentally or physically broken by the time they get degree. Dealing with death on a daily basis does that to you. Surprisingly large percentage are smokers too.

Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Despite all of these shortcomings, the Sten still has a long track record of shooting people right in the face.
College Slice
Here's a thing.


Data sources are at the bottom of this person's page here.

https://www.2019ncov.report/

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord
My work has an open office plan and there’s a few people with deep coughs and I’m seriously considering quitting over this plague poo poo

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






I suspect it is more widespread internationally than has been reported. I work for a Chinese company, currently in Brazil. All our Chinese colleagues are in China or en route back but due to be quarantined for two weeks. Some Brazilian colleagues recently returned from Beijing.

It’s possible nobody was exposed but it’s also quite possible they were. Certainly a few people wandering around with some kind of flu.

Now think about all the chinese companies out there and their employees all over the world.

Ultimately there’s not a whole lot we can do about it other than try to drink fluid and get enough sleep, as usual.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
If this poo poo is as infectious as it seems to be, and if the stories are true that it was appearing as far back as November but being ignored/covered up, it's already all over the world. Either this is a good thing, in that it's mostly not serious in the majority of people and has just presented as your average winter cold/flu, or it's a really really bad thing and we're gonna see some poo poo over the coming weeks.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

r u ready to WALK posted:

it's going to be real interesting when the country where everyone is armed to the teeth starts thinking that anyone sneezing is a deadly contagious zombie out to infect them

If by 'real interesting' you mean gonna make watching the news awesome, I agree.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Beefeater1980 posted:

It’s possible nobody was exposed but it’s also quite possible they were. Certainly a few people wandering around with some kind of flu.

Keep in mind this was also a particularly bad year for the regular flu, as well as the usual seasonal colds. Hell, in my city there's also been a nasty Norovirus going around to spice things up. Chances are it isn't Corona.

Myself I've had a bad off and on head cold since like the start of January. I no longer fear Coronavirus since it would have to get through this piece of poo poo rhinovirus first and it's *very* territorial.

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Carlos Lantana
Oct 2, 2003

I'm really sorry, your avatar is giving me a boner and while that is perfectly OK and I don't want to kink shame anyone, its making me feel really weird getting a boner in a Trump thread.

Sincerely,

Jailbrekr
Going to be weird when the North Koreans inherit the world because they shot anyone running a temperature.

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