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i disagree but whatever so this ^ is likely patriot front since flash mobs are their whole thing. materialize on the national mall and then march around and do a flash mob demo while screaming spooky nazi poo poo
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lol he didn't "hit rock bottom." he got arrested and expelled for being an insane, drunk piece of poo poo. he's not sleeping outside and he's not missing any meals. letting everybody know what you actually think about oppressed people isn't "hitting rock bottom"
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Get him to AA, fix him up and then you can guillotine him without feeling bad
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There's literally no definition for hitting rock bottom, which is why it's stupid. After you're dead, and only after you're dead, we can identify whatever we deem the lowest point in your life and say that that's when you hit rock bottom.
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Halloween Jack posted:There's literally no definition for hitting rock bottom, which is why it's stupid. After you're dead, and only after you're dead, we can identify whatever we deem the lowest point in your life and say that that's when you hit rock bottom. I'm not sure if you've ever had any experiences with addiction and recovery, but in my own experiences, and in the stories or accounts I've read of others', there is for many people a time where you come to understand that you need to make serious changes in your life and start to act to improve yourself. It's a common experience, and it's usually what people refer to as "rock bottom." It may not have a clinical definition, but that's what people mean when they say it. Only this kid knows whether this is his turning point.
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Halser posted:Get him to AA, fix him up and then you can guillotine him without feeling bad CommonShore posted:I'm not sure if you've ever had any experiences with addiction and recovery, but in my own experiences, and in the stories or accounts I've read of others', there is for many people a time where you come to understand that you need to make serious changes in your life and start to act to improve yourself. It's a common experience, and it's usually what people refer to as "rock bottom." It may not have a clinical definition, but that's what people mean when they say it.
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AA is really lovely and ineffective when its court mandated and invididual groups can be bad or great. but for people wanting to quit drinking of their own volition its an accessible place to meet people who are sober and interested in doing sober activities
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CommonShore posted:I'm not sure if you've ever had any experiences with addiction and recovery, but in my own experiences, and in the stories or accounts I've read of others', there is for many people a time where you come to understand that you need to make serious changes in your life and start to act to improve yourself. It's a common experience, and it's usually what people refer to as "rock bottom." It may not have a clinical definition, but that's what people mean when they say it. But AA isn't scientific. It's based on a guy claiming he had a vision of Jesus Christ back in the 30s. Despite this, a great deal of (often legally mandated) substance abuse treatment is based on AA. You could also carefully scrub the religious language from alchemy and then tell addicts that they need to complete the Great Work in order to get well. The language of "rock bottom" is particularly dangerous because they really tell people that you should abandon addicts until they "hit rock bottom" and that trying to help them is actually enabling them. People have died because of this. It's complete and utter bullshit, but it makes for entertaining television. Only in America!
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:thesis, antithesis, synthesis Bingo. I'm just here to give you backup. I absolutely wasn't on the streets, but I can put my finger on the exact time that I realized that substance use was making my life worse by every measure. It was a bad night for me, but there's nothing really to summarize. I don't think of it necessarily as "rock bottom" but if I were asked to share my story of recovery and sobriety (holy poo poo this past fall was 10 years sober!) including a "rock bottom," it's what I'd share.
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whether or not a given moment is "rock bottom" is much less about the actual material conditions of your life and much more about whether you finally decided, internally, to change. that decision can be affected by internal factors (how does this moment compare to the rest of your life so far) as well as external factors (is my shithead dad giving me plenty of room to feel like I'm the aggrieved party). I have never been to AA, this is just my experience of how people deal/don't deal with their problems. I don't have a lot of hope that this specific fuckboy will recover, but I didn't have a lot of hope Biden would tank in Iowa, either
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CommonShore posted:Bingo. I'm just here to give you backup. congratulations on 10 years, that's awesome!
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cumshitter posted:AA is really lovely and ineffective when its court mandated and invididual groups can be bad or great. but for people wanting to quit drinking of their own volition its an accessible place to meet people who are sober and interested in doing sober activities TBF that goes for any mental health treatment except emergency/hospitalization/etc for someone clearly unstable... "getting help" is a waste of time if the person in question doesn't want to be helped and/or doesn't consider substance abuse a problem in their life. For someone in that situation they either want to change, or they don't. There may be some motivation if society says they have to change or else, but if the threat of punishment was all it took to change people's behavior then crime wouldn't happen.
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There are plenty of alcoholics who have hit rock bottom without being a homophobic racist piece of poo poo. The only difference that dude's water bottle of 151 made was in making him a drunk homophobic racist piece of poo poo instead of a sober homophobic racist piece of poo poo.
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I smoked a ridiculous amount of weed for like 10 years and then one time my wife got mad at a local dispensary for selling us the wrong kind and not being able to take it back and we took a break and the break turned into quitting lol. It's been like 3 years now. I quit smoking cigs in a similar way. Both times I think my secret weapon was not actually talking about how I was quitting unless it was super necessary and just letting it happen. Alcohol is much worse than either of those though so ymmv Intel&Sebastian has issued a correction as of 00:51 on Feb 7, 2020 |
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i've never had a substance abuse problem and i wouldn't attempt to draw a direct comparison; but i've had a couple of times in my life where i've fallen into bad habits due to circumstances combined with mental health issues. and i knew they were bad in an abstract sense and needed to stop, but i wasn't stopping. but at a certain point i tend to have a moment of clarity that is usually prompted by having a particularly lovely time of it. and at that point i simply correct the problem with no trouble. if it works anything like that for addiction then i imagine that going to AA (or any other program) of your own accord would have a much greater success rate than going because you've been ordered by a court. the "rock bottom" talk seems like it would be counterproductive in this context if directed at the person with the addiction. it's indirectly telling them not to even try to change until things get completely hosed up. i think gentle nudges from loved ones can definitely hasten the onset of that moment of clarity, and are helpful if you can do it without making the person defensive. i suppose the notion of "rock bottom" might be helpful to the loved ones, in the sense that they recognize that they cannot will the other person into recovery; it has to come from within. support (that is non-enabling) and gentle nudges, may be the best you can do.
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I am completely unsurprised at how much of this thread listens to Citations Needed.
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It's the best.
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CommonShore posted:(holy poo poo this past fall was 10 years sober!)  Congratulations, comrade!"They keep killing our precious white men! This is unacceptable! 
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Tubgoat posted:
Watch this get used to go after BLM
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Kreg posted:Watch this get used to go after BLM 
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sometimes i wonder what alcohol tastes like but it just doesnt seem like it would be any fun. i keep going to the grocery store and intending to buy beer but the smallest units they sell are those tall cans of bud light and that just looks like too much to me
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Wait a minute, didn't you post about your drunken adventures in finance?  And yes, that is entirely too much Bud Light, while at the same time not nearly enough alcohol.
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Kreg posted:Watch this get used to go after BLM We have dedicated all available resources to apprehending the vigilante known as Antifa.
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cumshitter posted:sometimes i wonder what alcohol tastes like but it just doesnt seem like it would be any fun. i keep going to the grocery store and intending to buy beer but the smallest units they sell are those tall cans of bud light and that just looks like too much to me If you've never had alcohol before, it won't taste good unless you go for something like vodka and juice/soft drink, in which case you might as well just drink juice. Unless you want to get drunk specifically.
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Dreylad posted:yeah that dude sucks rear end but watching him being hauled out by three police with his hands and feet shackled and bag over his head is chilling It’s pretty cool seeing a fascist get black-bagged for once. If he was black, he’d be dead.
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Every night and every morning I drive to the gas station and buy two 40s. None of them are for me 
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Jerry Cotton posted:If you've never had alcohol before, it won't taste good unless you go for something like vodka and juice/soft drink, in which case you might as well just drink juice. Unless you want to get drunk specifically. 
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https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1225633733430083584 ^^ something to be on the lookout for as bernie assumes frontrunner status
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I had several sips of a Bud Light Lime I got from the store. I like limes. Limes. Is it normal to see fractals in the carpet after 1/8th of a Bud Light Lime?
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I am deeply enjoying this new facet of cumshitter's character. By character I mean his personal traits and attributes, because everything he posts is 100% sincere.
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cumshitter posted:I had several sips of a Bud Light Lime I got from the store. I like limes. Limes. Is it normal to see fractals in the carpet after 1/8th of a Bud Light Lime? No but it is for Bud L(SD)ime Its a subtle label difference you have to really look for it
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cumshitter posted:I had several sips of a Bud Light Lime I got from the store. I like limes. Limes. Is it normal to see fractals in the carpet after 1/8th of a Bud Light Lime? Yes, seeing as how you've a fractal-patterned carpet.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:https://twitter.com/SalishBlackFlag/status/1225662665134993408 Lmao who knew the only people better at burning the alt right were the alt right Just nonstop circle roasting into eternity
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SirSamVimes posted:I am deeply enjoying this new facet of cumshitter's character. the cumshitter mythos
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Farm Frenzy posted:the cumshitter mythos In a hole in the loos there worked cumshitter. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a business-hole, and that means sound financial advice.
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