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Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Somewhat Heroic posted:

This has got to be the weirdest sub-plot re: Kevin and the tickle fetish. When they went to the scene in the 5 seasons I told my wife "Why is that dude trying to grab his boobs? Dude seems a bit confused?" It didn't really come off as tickling.

It is just weird as hell. Kevin deserves a real plot. He is wasted talent at this point.

At first I thought he was just touching him in his surgical incision spot from where he lost his kidneys and he was uncomfortable with that but nope it was just a prelude to tickle porn

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esselfortium
Jul 19, 2006

Cumulonimbus Antagonistic Posting
I've been enjoying most of this season but this latest episode managed to hit every button to just infuriate me. Betty not using the answers but getting caught with them anyway was maddening because as soon as I saw the answer sheet I knew exactly where they were going to go with it. Archie letting his lovely uncle ruin his dad's business is insultingly dumb even by Archie's standards and just... predictable. Every plot point this week was just a big pile of "Why are you doing this?!? Why are you so stupid?!"

Even the rum plot isn't an exception, because Cheryl and Veronica are somehow convinced that the patrons of Penelope's brothel won't recognize Penelope there if she's wearing a mask.

Riverdale being dumb as hell is usually one of its assets because it's always full of bizarre surprises, but the twists and turns this week just felt.... tired. IDK. I hope it'll pick back up soon.

edit: Also, where did Archie's mom go...?

esselfortium fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Feb 1, 2020

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!
Fallen Rib

esselfortium posted:



edit: Also, where did Archie's mom go...?

To a better show, God willing

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


esselfortium posted:

Even the rum plot isn't an exception, because Cheryl and Veronica are somehow convinced that the patrons of Penelope's brothel won't recognize Penelope there if she's wearing a mask.

A mask that looks almost exactly like a latex version of her actual face. It's like trying to disguise Hilary Clinton in a Hillary Clinton mask.

Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Feb 2, 2020

Zutaten
May 8, 2007

What the shit.

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

A mask that looks almost exactly like a latex version of her actually face. It's like trying to disguise Hilary Clinton in a Hillary Clinton.

I'm glad someone else noticed that. I was laughing so hard that they basically gave her a Penelope Michael Meyers mask. And she kept her iconic hairstyle too

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Zutaten posted:

I'm glad someone else noticed that. I was laughing so hard that they basically gave her a Penelope Michael Meyers mask. And she kept her iconic hairstyle too

It was one of the most ridiculous and hilarious things the show has ever done, and that's saying something.

I'm positive the writers do things like this on purpose, they come up with nonsensical idea (Penelope is working at her old club in a mask and this somehow fools everyone) and then actively try to make it even sillier (the mask she wears is a mask of her own face).

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

esselfortium posted:

edit: Also, where did Archie's mom go...?

I don't think Molly Ringwald ever wanted to be part of the main cast, and she might have contract that costs too much for her to be in every episode. She was only on the show so much this season because of Luke Perry's unfortunate and sudden death.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

It was one of the most ridiculous and hilarious things the show has ever done, and that's saying something.

This is the CW, home of multiple shows where flimsy domino masks are enough to thwart everyone's attempt at divining the identity of superheroes everywhere.

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.
Yeah we're lucky they didn't just give her a wig like every other TV show ever.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

Sgt. Politeness posted:

Yeah we're lucky they didn't just give her a wig like every other TV show ever.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Skwirl posted:

I don't think Molly Ringwald ever wanted to be part of the main cast, and she might have contract that costs too much for her to be in every episode. She was only on the show so much this season because of Luke Perry's unfortunate and sudden death.

Yes I'm sure she is super busy with her blisteringly hot career right now.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Rhyno posted:

Yes I'm sure she is super busy with her blisteringly hot career right now.

No, but if you only expect to use someone a few times a season, and they're maybe reluctant to return to acting (she wrote a great essay about how being John Hughes' muse was a mixed experience for her) you might pay them more per episode than some of the regular cast.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
People also like to be able to pay their bills. I'm sure the residual checks from Pretty in Pink are enormous.

RaspberrySea
Nov 29, 2004
She also has a 17 year old, and 11 year old twins back home in NY and I don't think she wanted to move away from them for long periods of time.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

The addition of Cheryl to Veronica's rum plotline is a vast improvement but that is not saying a whole fuckin lot lol.

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!
Fallen Rib
I was not expecting actual panties at a football match. I felt gross watching Cheryl flash the good china at football fans in the name of cheerleading.

Poor Mads is perved in constantly in this show

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.
I'm baffled that this show has a gay showrunner because its gay character has no substance and when he does get a plot it's... ch*ld porn? Like is there not anything about the gay experience you want to tell?

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.
Just cruising the park at night for, I don't know blowies? Since they randomly decided he was a virgin last season.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Shneak posted:

I'm baffled that this show has a gay showrunner because its gay character has no substance and when he does get a plot it's... ch*ld porn? Like is there not anything about the gay experience you want to tell?

Clearly he saw this movie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tickled

and decided to make an episode about it.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

I'd get fuckin tickled by dudes for 5 grand and I'm straight.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

GreenNight posted:

I'd get fuckin tickled by dudes for 5 grand and I'm straight.

In the real life thing, most of the guys being tickled were straight, the tickling wasn't the problem, at least in the doc. The people running it turned into psychotic stalkers of anyone who decided to stop doing it.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Fine. $5500 per vid.

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



Things I learned this week:
Having revenge porn is okay to give yourself insurance?
Archie can be literally thrown through a bathroom sink but Kevin gets a gentle push and is down for the count?

This show continues to underplay Kevin as a character. At least he’s found a lucrative profession.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Welp, Veronica has once again forgiven her evil family.

Also, Moose isn't dead, so that's cool.

Still Fluxing
Feb 14, 2013

A vision. A picture in my head. A picture of this.
Odds on Hiram faking his disease for sympathy?

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!
Fallen Rib

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Welp, Veronica has once again forgiven her evil family.

Also, Moose isn't dead, so that's cool.

gently caress that, I'm out

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

Still Fluxing posted:

Odds on Hiram faking his disease for sympathy?

You’d never even get odds on that.

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.

Phylodox posted:

You’d never even get odds on that.

How would they even CGI/body double that? Consuelos is shredded.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Still Fluxing posted:

Odds on Hiram faking his disease for sympathy?

110%, and even after Veronica finds out she'll STILL go on to forgive him yet again in the future.

Sloth Life posted:

gently caress that, I'm out

I'm willing to go along with almost all the crazy bullshit this show throws at me, but Veronica CONSTANTLY giving her obviously evil father yet ANOTHER chance got old fast and it just keeps on happening.

Remember that half-sister he brought to town just to gently caress with her? Did she join the army with Moose?

Still Fluxing
Feb 14, 2013

A vision. A picture in my head. A picture of this.

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

110%, and even after Veronica finds out she'll STILL go on to forgive him yet again in the future.


I'm willing to go along with almost all the crazy bullshit this show throws at me, but Veronica CONSTANTLY giving her obviously evil father yet ANOTHER chance got old fast and it just keeps on happening.

Remember that half-sister he brought to town just to gently caress with her? Did she join the army with Moose?

I saw a spoiler pic that suggests she's gonna don a blonde wig and dance with Toni and Cheryl next week. Yeah, I'm confused too

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?
I did not expect the payoff to Uncle Frank being that he was in a dodgy PMC who's paying a member of his old unit to murder them one by one like the start of loving Commando.

And then Archie gets in a brawl with him!

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008

Still Fluxing posted:

Odds on Hiram faking his disease for sympathy?

Odds on Hiram becoming some type of human robot hybrid super villain? Seems more likely for the trajectory of the show

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Shoehead posted:

I did not expect the payoff to Uncle Frank being that he was in a dodgy PMC who's paying a member of his old unit to murder them one by one like the start of loving Commando.

And then Archie gets in a brawl with him!

I was surprised that Kevin could muster up the energy to pretend to be shocked that someone was yet again trying to murder a student at Riverdale High.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





Somewhat Heroic posted:

Having revenge porn is okay to give yourself insurance?

I thought he claimed it was confession tapes not pornography.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Arbite posted:

I thought he claimed it was confession tapes not pornography.

They're talking about the forced tickling. Is that a form of rape? Does it matter if the assault victim doesn't consider it a sexual thing?

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

cant cook creole bream posted:

They're talking about the forced tickling. Is that a form of rape? Does it matter if the assault victim doesn't consider it a sexual thing?

Yeah this part came across as really hosed up to me. Like, the videos are clearly porn, and they got him really drunk, filmed it, and then used the tapes to blackmail him. That's... not okay.

Was he even doing anything explicitly evil? Like yeah okay he was absolutely going to date rape Cheryl that time, but this time he seemed to be just looking for a new bar to hang out in? Fair enough kick him out and ban him for life, I'm not saying Cheryl should be forced to hang out with him because of the free market or anything. It still felt really hosed up and I'm sure it would have been treated differently if that exact scenario had happened to any of the leads.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





cant cook creole bream posted:

They're talking about the forced tickling. Is that a form of rape? Does it matter if the assault victim doesn't consider it a sexual thing?

Oh, my mistake.

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.
So I'm not like a "yeah! Prison Justice!" kinda guy but the dude is a rapist so I don't feel bad about it. Plus Cheryl, Toni, and probably Fangs are borderline bad people so this is pretty on par, my question was why drag this plot back out? Did the writers run out of ideas or were they like "we want to toy with the idea of rape with this tickle porn stuff, which character could we get away with doing it to?"

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Sgt. Politeness posted:

So I'm not like a "yeah! Prison Justice!" kinda guy but the dude is a rapist so I don't feel bad about it. Plus Cheryl, Toni, and probably Fangs are borderline bad people so this is pretty on par, my question was why drag this plot back out? Did the writers run out of ideas or were they like "we want to toy with the idea of rape with this tickle porn stuff, which character could we get away with doing it to?"

Yeah, Toni straight up killed a guy this season so this really isn't out of character for her. She's really nice and down to earth when she's not doing crimes, but when she does do crimes she goes hard. Then Cheryl helped dispose of the body. I'm pretty sure Fangs has killed before too.

And as for why the writers decided to bring this plot back...I have no idea.

Last time we saw Nick he was talking about how his crime lord father was considering disowning him because of all the humiliations he'd gone through in Riverdale, and then Veronica humiliated him yet again. I kind of figured his dad would just kill him off screen.

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GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

I enjoyed seeing Archie get the hell beaten out of him. That was a fun fight.

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