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Deified Data posted:This is very much one of those "Bernie take the wheel" moments where I just have to stop worrying and have faith the campaign expects the NH ratfuck and has some sort of plan. Because the only alternative is to just assume voting is useless and better things are impossible. Just keep banking and or donating and occupy your mind with something else because if the DNC has decided to rig NH we can do nothing to stop them. it is safe to assume that the campaign that has been building for 5 years around a leftist who has survived 40 years of democratic ratfucking is neither surprised by nor unprepared for ratfucking.
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U-DO Burger posted:man it's really hard to overstate just how much i despise the dnc right now Unfortunately Trump winning again destroys democracy and the planet.
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Feb 7, 2020 17:32
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Schnorkles posted:Clinton be more specific
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Serf posted:be more specific Bill, he lost Iowa and NH in 1992.
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if yang is smart, he'll knife pete in order to ultimately back bernie and maybe get a cabinet position
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good. knife the rat and don't stop knifing the rat in his stupid loving face
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Deified Data posted:e. Bernie is the Warhammer player with the beautifully painted High Elf army in the corner of the shop hanging out for pick-up games in this scenario There's an entire community of players that do nothing but complain that prices are way over production costs and some factions' rules preclude them from winning.
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Feb 7, 2020 17:33
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Harrow posted:I do enjoy that there are calls for Tom Perez to resign from both Bernie fans and Bernie haters because we see that he's trying to put his thumb on the scale against Bernie, while the Bernie haters have somehow decided he loooooves Bernie and he has to go. And now even House Democrats are willing to publicly speak against him. hmmmm. i take it back. Perez is a clueless stooge. the Iowa Democrats must be destroyed.
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Feb 7, 2020 17:34
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Schnorkles posted:Bill, he lost Iowa and NH in 1992. well i suppose there's a reason to be somewhat hopeful then
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Think Yang will run for a House or Senate seat after this? Will he angle for a cabinet position? Or will he just go back to doing his normal thing until the next presidential primary he can run in?
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has it been indicated that there will be no further updates to the iowa count? cuz like, its kinda weird when nyt and nbc won't verify the results
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Not gonna lie I think it's gonna be hilarious as Trump treats all of his uncontested primary "wins" as huge victories over and over
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Feb 7, 2020 17:36
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The line for the rest of the year will be "so you expect this party to manage your healthcare?"
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Have...candidates not known whether they were going to be at the debates until the loving day of? Or is it just Yang they have this level of urgency for?
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Feb 7, 2020 17:37
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Raskolnikov38 posted:they even outline the order of suites in case both draw the same number. as long as an auto shuffler is used the cards are way better than coin flips using the POG slammer method in order to assign delegates as necessary
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Heath posted:The line for the rest of the year will be "so you expect this party to manage your healthcare?" 
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Harrow posted:Not gonna lie I think it's gonna be hilarious as Trump treats all of his uncontested primary "wins" as huge victories over and over Of course he does. Massive amounts of people don't understand that the primaries are just among the individual parties. I asked someone on Monday if they were watching the Democratic one specifically and they were like "no, why? Is Trump winning it again?"
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Serf posted:well i suppose there's a reason to be somewhat hopeful then Have I missed some polling somewhere? Last I saw Bernie was streets ahead in NH
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Tirade posted:Have I missed some polling somewhere? Last I saw Bernie was streets ahead in NH polling last night has them neck and neck
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Tirade posted:Have I missed some polling somewhere? Last I saw Bernie was streets ahead in NH There's one poll that shows Bernie ahead of Pete by only one point. Dumb babies here have been Arzying about it since yesterday.
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Feb 7, 2020 17:39
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Tirade posted:Have I missed some polling somewhere? Last I saw Bernie was streets ahead in NH i don't believe in polls, but i believe in deliberate, overt, out in the open ratfucking. the shitshow in iowa smells like the cia, and its not going to get easier
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Tirade posted:Have I missed some polling somewhere? Last I saw Bernie was streets ahead in NH Buttsurge is real in NH apparently. There was a poll yesterday that had them pretty much tied and a couple polls yesterday showing Bernie still in the lead but Butt gaining a lot.
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Tirade posted:Have I missed some polling somewhere? Last I saw Bernie was streets ahead in NH Yeah this sudden onset of total gloom from every where is freaking me out more than anything. Even in that poll done by the Israel guy that had the biggest Pete bounce that was all land lines had Bernie still ahead. Serf posted:i don't believe in polls, but i believe in deliberate, overt, out in the open ratfucking. the shitshow in iowa smells like the cia, and its not going to get easier I mean if they are going to straight up steal votes then there's literally nothing we can do.
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Looking forward to hearing about how Bernie's too old from Bloomberg supporters unaware he's only a year younger
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Feb 7, 2020 17:40
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Radish posted:I mean if they are going to straight up steal votes then there's literally nothing we can do. certainly not within the confines of bourgeois democracy, no
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triple sulk posted:if yang is smart, he'll knife pete in order to ultimately back bernie and maybe get a cabinet position I'm cool with ubi in addition to all of the things bernie wants to do.
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Feb 7, 2020 17:42
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Radish posted:I mean if they are going to straight up steal votes then there's literally nothing we can do. And for that matter, as others have said, if Butt's lovely Iowa play gives him NH and it takes out Sanders, it was never going to happen for Bernie anyway. But that's not going to happen.
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Tirade posted:Have I missed some polling somewhere? Last I saw Bernie was streets ahead in NH They're goosing the polls to make him neck and neck with Pete. I'm not concerned with how this shakes out in a straight race with only moderate amounts of corruption because the numbers are fake and Pete will go nowhere, but if these polls are being used as pretext to steal the race from Bernie when his lead was unassailable a few days ago poo poo is going to get messy.
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Radish posted:I mean if they are going to straight up steal votes then there's literally nothing we can do. You don't speak for me. You have no idea what I'm capable of
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im on pins and needles for the next hour because one of three things needs to happen either the iowa democratic party fixes the obviously wrong results and adds in the last half a dozen precincts and certifies a bernie win they double down on the probuttigieg results that have explicitly been called out by the actual relevant precinct chairpeople as being wrong or bernie formally calls for a recanvas my guess is that the bernie letter from last night was a warning shot that they need to fix the errors or get dragged through the mud and the iowa democratic party is trying to decide whether or not the bernie campaign is bluffing i think the final results are going to certify bernie as the winner and theyre just going to pretend like all the errors were random coincidences because the long term issues created by just leaving the incorrect results up there and certifying them could destroy the caucus even if the bernie campaign backs down
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Feb 7, 2020 17:44
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Any kind of Iowa bump is irrelevant until you make it past the debate. Pete is right in the Rubio position so it's not a done deal for him yet.
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Feb 7, 2020 17:44
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:America is really like the Bears in a lot of ways Run by a billionaire that could care less about it?
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:America is really like the Bears in a lot of ways Exploits its workers?
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WampaLord posted:
Despair sucks, complacency sucks. Getting on a bus to knock on doors in New Hampshire to help make Bernie Sanders' win possible, though, is the good poo poo. Trying to predict the future sucks a lot compared to trying to influence it.
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Expressing faith in Bernie's chances is complacency!!!!!
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Some Guy TT posted:im on pins and needles for the next hour because one of three things needs to happen either the iowa democratic party fixes the obviously wrong results and adds in the last half a dozen precincts and certifies a bernie win they double down on the probuttigieg results that have explicitly been called out by the actual relevant precinct chairpeople as being wrong or bernie formally calls for a recanvas Unless I'm misunderstanding the rules for when a candidate can call for a recanvass, I don't think Bernie can. He'd have to make the case that the voting errors would change his national delegate count, and I don't think they would--I think he said as much yesterday. One of the issues is that the media has decided to use SDEs--which are 100% meaningless to the nomination process this time around--as the number to call Iowa victory on. If everyone was reporting on the popular vote, Bernie would be the clear winner and I don't know if anyone would be bothering to call foul at this point. But the fact is that everyone's fighting over the SDE count and if Bernie wants to force the media to acknowledge his victory, he needs those errors fixed so that he wins the SDE count like he actually did. And that's exactly why they're not going to fix them. It's possible Bernie's campaign could sue, but I don't think he has grounds to call for a recanvass (again, assuming I'm understanding the rules correctly).
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Harrow posted:Not gonna lie I think it's gonna be hilarious as Trump treats all of his uncontested primary "wins" as huge victories over and over he’s not wrong  this poo poo makes the dems look even worse
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