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Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
For real though how is the answer not immediately costa del sol, imagine swimming all day every day in that place.

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Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Elentor posted:

For real though how is the answer not immediately costa del sol, imagine swimming all day every day in that place.

Too hot

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Nah the heat is always good even when hot. It's the humidity that gets to you.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Love that the entrance to the golden saucer is located in a hellhole shanty town. Game is great.

Psycho Knight
Jan 19, 2017

"Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

No Wave posted:

Love that the entrance to the golden saucer is located in a hellhole shanty town. Game is great.

Peasants who can barely afford the entrance fee take the shanty town entrance. The wealthy fly in on helicopters.


:hai:

If we're talking post-FFVII, then I'd consider Nibelheim. Free real estate now that all the creepy reunion dudes are gone, plus you've got the Gold Saucer just over the mountain for your earthly desires and Cosmo Canyon to the south for your spiritual needs.

That mansion will probably still need an exorcist, but hey, nowhere is perfect.

Bean posted:

The rest of the party staring wide eyed while coital screams come out of a robot moogle/cat. This game defined a generation.

Or staring in confusion as all they hear is "Finishing Touch!" and "Final Heaven!"

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
Icicle Inn seems like the most pleasant place. I like the long quiet winters. Nice views too.

Caidin
Oct 29, 2011
So like, does Dio work for Shrinra or is he an independently wealthy prick to decided the best place to build his casino park was over a recently annihilated mining town controlled by a murderous loon? It's loving suspended a couple hundred feet in the air so it seems like he could have built it anywhere he drat well pleased.

And was your initial stop seriously the first time Dyne ever climbed up the pipes and got his murder on? Was he somehow an unknown quality?

I really want to see how the remake approaches that whole scenario.

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



Elentor posted:

For real though how is the answer not immediately costa del sol, imagine swimming all day every day in that place.

mideel, so that I can be swallowed up by the earth and destroyed

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Caidin posted:

So like, does Dio work for Shrinra or is he an independently wealthy prick to decided the best place to build his casino park was over a recently annihilated mining town controlled by a murderous loon? It's loving suspended a couple hundred feet in the air so it seems like he could have built it anywhere he drat well pleased.

And was your initial stop seriously the first time Dyne ever climbed up the pipes and got his murder on? Was he somehow an unknown quality?

I really want to see how the remake approaches that whole scenario.
I imagine the recently annihilated mining town had cheap labor. It's just good business.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Wait, Dio is a music reference too

How many drat music references does this game have?

Loveless
Sister Ray
Dio
Gainsborough
Lucretia

Eraflure
Oct 12, 2012


precision posted:

Gainsborough

oh for gently caress SAKE

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

precision posted:

Wait, Dio is a music reference too

How many drat music references does this game have?

Loveless
Sister Ray
Dio
Gainsborough
Lucretia

My favorite part is how as soon as Purple Haze starts, you see a Purple Haze.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


I realise it's the theme of the game but is every other town in FF7 a big platform that the rich live on while everyone else is in a literal hole full of poo poo underneath? Midgar, Junon, Gold Saucer / Corel and I'm sure I've missed at least one other.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Crazy all these JoJo references in FF7

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Party Boat posted:

I realise it's the theme of the game but is every other town in FF7 a big platform that the rich live on while everyone else is in a literal hole full of poo poo underneath? Midgar, Junon, Gold Saucer / Corel and I'm sure I've missed at least one other.
Gold Saucer is an amusement park.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

<3

Elentor posted:

For real though how is the answer not immediately costa del sol, imagine swimming all day every day in that place.

I never learned how to swim.

Rich Uncle Chet
Jan 20, 2005


The Law? Law is a Human Institution.


Scalding Coffee posted:

Gold Saucer is an amusement park.

It's the same kind of idea though The wealthy and well to do go up and party and spend their Professor Land Fun Bucks (which only they can afford to by), while everyone below suffers. Hell, Dio without thinking declares Cloud and Co guilty and throws them into the prison. No fair trial, no due process, just "You did this didn't you, you filthy riff-raff. Off to jail you go!"

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Sakurazuka posted:

Crazy all these JoJo references in FF7

A dev was quoted as saying Loveless was a reference. Sister Ray is such a weird name and such an iconic song I dunno how it isn't. The musician Dio is literally the only person I've ever heard of with that name. Gainsborough would be a stretch if not for all the other ones. And "Lucretia My Reflection" is an extremely well known goth song

:shrug:

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Scalding Coffee posted:

Gold Saucer is an amusement park.

It's an amusement park literally built on top of the old Corel, the one burned down and massacred by Shinra.

It certainly fits with the theme.

A lot of people used to be weird Midgar Onlyists who insisted the game lost a lot of its quality and thematic power once you leave Midgar. But we never stop seeing the atrocities of Shinra even as we are ostensibly going after Sephiroth and forgetting all about Shinra.

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



NikkolasKing posted:

It's an amusement park literally built on top of the old Corel, the one burned down and massacred by Shinra.

It certainly fits with the theme.

A lot of people used to be weird Midgar Onlyists who insisted the game lost a lot of its quality and thematic power once you leave Midgar. But we never stop seeing the atrocities of Shinra even as we are ostensibly going after Sephiroth and forgetting all about Shinra.

it's not so much that it loses quality after midgar so much that Midgar is wall to wall Interesting poo poo Happening but then after Kalm a big chunk of disc 1 ends up just being bumbling around in the theoretical direction of sephiroth

Like Midgar is: Blow up a reactor, go back to your terrorist hideout and hear some establishing backstory, blow up another reactor, meet the president, fall off a cliff, meet aeris, run from the turks, dress up like a girl, infiltrate the don's mansion, fight through the train graveyard, fight your way up the plate tower, fight Reno, escape from the destruction of sector 7, climb up the burning plate wreckage, bust into Shinra HQ, climb up and learn all about Shinra, see the weird poo poo in Hojo's lab, meet a talking dog, get thrown in jail, escape jail, follow the trail of blood, holy poo poo the president's dead, fight Rufus, motorcycle out of town, escape to Kalm and learn all about the setup for the game's actual plot. poo poo is continuously happening.

then you get to the rest of disc 1, which starts off with you spending half an hour trying to figure out how to catch a giant chicken that you will ride for exactly 30 seconds before you go into a generic mine dungeon that ends with a conversation instead of a boss fight, and the conversation ultimately doesn't tell you anything other than "the turks also want to follow sephiroth". There's cool parts, and there's also boring parts where nothing really happens. Like Red and Barret both have their own big focus segments which you will enjoy if you like those characters, but if they were benchwarmers then you won't really care because they're self-contained segments that have no greater plot impact.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



precision posted:

A dev was quoted as saying Loveless was a reference. Sister Ray is such a weird name and such an iconic song I dunno how it isn't. The musician Dio is literally the only person I've ever heard of with that name. Gainsborough would be a stretch if not for all the other ones. And "Lucretia My Reflection" is an extremely well known goth song

:shrug:

Dio is the only one I know.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Kheldarn posted:

Dio is the only one I know.

Loveless is a very well known album from the early 90s, considered to be the father of shoegaze.

Serge Gainsborough was a very famous and good singer and his daughter is an actress in lots of great movies.

Sister Ray is a Velvet Underground song.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Tu vas et tu viens
Entre mes reins

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



precision posted:

Loveless is a very well known album from the early 90s, considered to be the father of shoegaze.

Serge Gainsborough was a very famous and good singer and his daughter is an actress in lots of great movies.

Sister Ray is a Velvet Underground song.

Nope. Don't know any of those. Sorry.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Loveless is from a band called My Bloody Valentine which is why you see both texts together in the posters in Midgar

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It's also very hard not to think of Juno Reactor while you're in... Junon Reactor.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Elentor posted:

It's also very hard not to think of Juno Reactor while you're in... Junon Reactor.

oh my god how did I never notice that

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Elentor posted:

It's also very hard not to think of Juno Reactor while you're in... Junon Reactor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg34Nxb_Vjs

Xad
Jul 2, 2009

"Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"

College Slice

precision posted:

A dev was quoted as saying Loveless was a reference. Sister Ray is such a weird name and such an iconic song I dunno how it isn't. The musician Dio is literally the only person I've ever heard of with that name. Gainsborough would be a stretch if not for all the other ones. And "Lucretia My Reflection" is an extremely well known goth song

:shrug:

They're joking, Jojo characters are frequently named after real-life musicians/bands (and of those, only Dio is a Jojo character, named after the musician). Hell, there's a guy early on named Robert E. O. Speedwagon :v:

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Xad posted:

Hell, there's a guy early on named Robert E. O. Speedwagon :v:

Clearly I need to watch Jojo :)

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



precision posted:

Clearly I need to watch Jojo :)

there is an entirely serious and important villain with several highly impactful and emotional scenes focused on them who is named "Vanilla Ice"

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Don't forget the terrifying ancient vampire gods; Santana, Wham and Cars.

Edit: one of the low key interesting things about Jojo is tracking the author's growing and changing musical taste over time. Like you can tell he really only got into rap around the time he was writing part five.

Bregor
May 31, 2013

People are idiots, Leslie.

precision posted:

Serge Gainsborough was a very famous and good singer and his daughter is an actress in lots of great movies.

:aaaaa:

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME

cock hero flux posted:

it's not so much that it loses quality after midgar so much that Midgar is wall to wall Interesting poo poo Happening but then after Kalm a big chunk of disc 1 ends up just being bumbling around in the theoretical direction of sephiroth

Like Midgar is: Blow up a reactor, go back to your terrorist hideout and hear some establishing backstory, blow up another reactor, meet the president, fall off a cliff, meet aeris, run from the turks, dress up like a girl, infiltrate the don's mansion, fight through the train graveyard, fight your way up the plate tower, fight Reno, escape from the destruction of sector 7, climb up the burning plate wreckage, bust into Shinra HQ, climb up and learn all about Shinra, see the weird poo poo in Hojo's lab, meet a talking dog, get thrown in jail, escape jail, follow the trail of blood, holy poo poo the president's dead, fight Rufus, motorcycle out of town, escape to Kalm and learn all about the setup for the game's actual plot. poo poo is continuously happening.

then you get to the rest of disc 1, which starts off with you spending half an hour trying to figure out how to catch a giant chicken that you will ride for exactly 30 seconds before you go into a generic mine dungeon that ends with a conversation instead of a boss fight, and the conversation ultimately doesn't tell you anything other than "the turks also want to follow sephiroth". There's cool parts, and there's also boring parts where nothing really happens. Like Red and Barret both have their own big focus segments which you will enjoy if you like those characters, but if they were benchwarmers then you won't really care because they're self-contained segments that have no greater plot impact.

Everything between Kalm and Junon is so meaningless that I'm actually surprised it's in the game at all.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

A Sometimes Food posted:

Don't forget the terrifying ancient vampire gods; Santana, Wham and Cars.

Also, AC/DC.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal

Elentor posted:

Tu vas et tu viens
Entre mes reins



Je te tue...moi non plus

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Welp gotta watch Jojo on principle now

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

HD DAD posted:

Je te tue...moi non plus

I think we just uncovered the plot to resurrect Aeris.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Xad posted:

They're joking, Jojo characters are frequently named after real-life musicians/bands (and of those, only Dio is a Jojo character, named after the musician). Hell, there's a guy early on named Robert E. O. Speedwagon :v:
I heard Dio is secretly in control of The World.

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Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Vichan posted:

Everything between Kalm and Junon is so meaningless that I'm actually surprised it's in the game at all.

I think Kalm is somewhat important because it shows that while Kalm itself isn't immediately falling apart, it's starting to decline because of Shinra's influence (as evidenced by the majority of the town's able-bodied population occupying the bar and drowning their sorrows). It's also a decent breather after the wall-to-wall Constant Happenings from Midgar, and it's good for expositioning about Cloud's history with Sephiroth. There's also Fort Condor, which has decent significance to the overall narrative of Shinra Bad (even though a lot of players bounced off of it because Optional Minigame With Timed Events).

The Chocobo Ranch sequence is pretty much entirely a waste of time, though.

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