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Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.



I always thought this was insane:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJcDVbH5q3k

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Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

Holy poo poo that’s a big explosion.

I remember this one from yemen(?) that people thought may have been nuclear because of the way it messed with the ccd in the camera and.. well.. had such a sustained shockwave. I don’t think it could possibly be nuclear as it doesn’t release near that type or amount of thermal shockwave. If it was even a small one i think those bystanders would be cooked. Whatever it was though what the gently caress.


https://youtu.be/TueGsI2GXbw

Blind Rasputin fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Feb 6, 2020

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

No sound but holy moly those blast waves


https://youtu.be/HfXmG3GdAig

dubzee
Oct 23, 2008



Phil Moscowitz posted:

No sound but holy moly those blast waves


https://youtu.be/HfXmG3GdAig

I just adore that video, it popped up in the GBS China thread when Tianjin went down.

"Ok you can come in."

"NOPE"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfXmG3GdAig

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

Why aren't our defense contractors like this?

https://twitter.com/ArmyPost/status/1225103027536846849

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

One page back

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Our defense contractors ARE like that, it's just the dances they purchase to influence their customers generally are of the exotic and/or escort variety.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
(__|\\\\)
Taco Defender

CMD598 posted:

I can't get over the cuirassiers.



Where did this come from?

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
It's from around August 1914, just after the outbreak of WWI (as the cuirassiers disappeared pretty quickly once fighting started for obvious reasons)

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

piL posted:

Where did this come from?

MikeCrotch posted:

It's from around August 1914, just after the outbreak of WWI (as the cuirassiers disappeared pretty quickly once fighting started for obvious reasons)

I honestly couldn’t tell if it was re-enactors, a colorized photograph, painting, what. They’re all so vogue

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

CMD598 posted:

I can't get over the cuirassiers.



Mustache game is on point.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Phil Moscowitz posted:

I honestly couldn’t tell if it was re-enactors, a colorized photograph, painting, what. They’re all so vogue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFq2pU21cNU

piL
Sep 20, 2007
(__|\\\\)
Taco Defender

MikeCrotch posted:

It's from around August 1914, just after the outbreak of WWI (as the cuirassiers disappeared pretty quickly once fighting started for obvious reasons)

I deserve that. What source did that picture come from so I can try to get a huge resolution version, or similar photos?

brains
May 12, 2004

MikeCrotch posted:

It's from around August 1914, just after the outbreak of WWI (as the cuirassiers disappeared pretty quickly once fighting started for obvious reasons)

what's really incredible is that you're basically looking at the french army from 1814, because they hardly changed in almost 100 years, then barely a year later they are nearly indistinguishable from any other modern 20th century army.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


^^^^ Nothing like a firm kick up the arse to foster some institutional change

piL posted:

I deserve that. What source did that picture come from so I can try to get a huge resolution version, or similar photos?

Just GIS "French cuirassiers WW1" with size set to large. Half the hits are wargaming minis but there's some neat poo poo.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
Did that armor actually do anything to protect against 19th century bullets or was it purely to protect against like, getting bayoneted?

Or was it just something someone thought was a good idea and it never mattered until it actually saw combat and people said "gently caress that".

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

It was tradition. Just like the pantalon rouge, white gloves and kepis of the French or the Pickelhalb of the Germans.

Changes rather rapidly once the bullets met the meat.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Plate proof against handgun balls was a thing in the 17th century at least but for example that Waterloo plate with the huge cannon ball hole in it looks too thin to even be that. Against smokeless powder spitzer bullets yeah forget it. It's just for when you have to go up against a lancer or the other guy's saber.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Yeah thin plate did jack poo poo against musket balls, the amount of kinetic energy behind those things is bananas and caused horrible injuries.

Look at later war German Calvary for how they adapted. Horses with gas masks.

I can't remember what author said it but I always liked 'a generation of middle class love died in France'

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

At least it did change their minds. All those massed charges into barbed wire at Port Arthur convinced the IJA that soldiers could beat entrenched defenses if they had enough samurai spirit and willingness to die for the emperor. To be fair, most European military observers came out with the same dumb lesson, hence all those tactics at the beginning of WWI. But since the IJA's next major conflict was a giant mess of Chinese warlords, they didn't realize how dumb that was until far after the idea had be beaten out of European militaries.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

golden bubble posted:

At least it did change their minds. All those massed charges into barbed wire at Port Arthur convinced the IJA that soldiers could beat entrenched defenses if they had enough samurai spirit and willingness to die for the emperor. To be fair, most European military observers came out with the same dumb lesson, hence all those tactics at the beginning of WWI. But since the IJA's next major conflict was a giant mess of Chinese warlords, they didn't realize how dumb that was until far after the idea had be beaten out of European militaries.

Never underestimate the ability of military observers to watch an actual war and chalk up the fuckups to ignorant furriners. The trench war was clearly forecast by the western theater of the ACW, too, and plenty of European observers watched it happen and came to the conclusion that Americans were mobs with guns, and that could never happen with Proper Military Traditions leading the way. Things happening in the Boer War and Russo-Japanese War were points on the same line.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Madurai posted:

Never underestimate the ability of military observers to watch an actual war and chalk up the fuckups to ignorant furriners. The trench war was clearly forecast by the western theater of the ACW, too, and plenty of European observers watched it happen and came to the conclusion that Americans were mobs with guns, and that could never happen with Proper Military Traditions leading the way. Things happening in the Boer War and Russo-Japanese War were points on the same line.

Eastern theater.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

McNally posted:

Eastern theater.

Yes, you're correct.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Eastern theater of WW1 is some :gonk: level poo poo for human butchery

brusilov offensive is some massed human misery. Or basically any of the Russian/Austo-Hungarian Empire battles.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

I don't know that the ACW is actually indicative of WW1 at all. The war is dominated by manouvre and seiges of strong points, which had been the European tradition for hundreds of years. It's the fact that armies can no longer manouvre that defines the puzzle of the Western Front.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

PittTheElder posted:

I don't know that the ACW is actually indicative of WW1 at all. The war is dominated by manouvre and seiges of strong points, which had been the European tradition for hundreds of years. It's the fact that armies can no longer manouvre that defines the puzzle of the Western Front.

The Siege of Petersburg bogged down into trench warfare for nearly a year with more than superficial similarities to the Western Front of WWI developing along the way.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Right, but early modern warfare in Europe had worked like that for a very long time. Trench warfare was super common in sieges, it's only the 'everything is one big siege' part that was new, and the ACW really doesn't have that. Even when Lee and Grant were stuck in at Petersburg there's multiple crucial campaigns going on elsewhere.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

PittTheElder posted:

Right, but early modern warfare in Europe had worked like that for a very long time. Trench warfare was super common in sieges, it's only the 'everything is one big siege' part that was new, and the ACW really doesn't have that. Even when Lee and Grant were stuck in at Petersburg there's multiple crucial campaigns going on elsewhere.

By that logic, WWI didn't have that either because while the western front was bogged down in the trenches, the eastern front remained more fluid.

CMD598
Apr 12, 2013
It may not be directly visible but there's a pretty clear progression, the writing was definitely on the walls. What's worse is that there were like 2 major European wars in between the ACW and WW1, not even counting the Russo Japanese war.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5zuUt9Xdmc
:trumppop:

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

Jet rally is my poo poo

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

bloops posted:

Jet rally is my poo poo

Just had this in my YouTube feed today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg8bmgZjzOM

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.


I’m always under the impression jet planes are incredibly fragile and the slightest rock or twig sucked into the engine would blow it or a bump like those would just cause the wing to break off. That’s insane.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

Blind Rasputin posted:

I’m always under the impression jet planes are incredibly fragile and the slightest rock or twig sucked into the engine would blow it or a bump like those would just cause the wing to break off. That’s insane.

Nah. Search in YouTube for wing stress tests. Jets are remarkably resilient.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~
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CMD598
Apr 12, 2013

Blind Rasputin posted:

I’m always under the impression jet planes are incredibly fragile and the slightest rock or twig sucked into the engine would blow it or a bump like those would just cause the wing to break off. That’s insane.

Consider that Navy jets landing on a carrier is basically a crash landing.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
You treat them as fragile if your goal is constant use with near zero catastrophic accidents. Otherwise they’re just another kind of machine

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

Does sucking a rock into the intake just like bounce off?

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


I saw a video of a stress test to destruction of an airplane wing and that thing bent quite a ways before it went kablooie. Seemed pretty sturdy to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai2HmvAXcU0

aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Feb 10, 2020

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bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

Blind Rasputin posted:

Does sucking a rock into the intake just like bounce off?

Any sort of foreign object can harm an engine. Maybe it will or won’t. It’s about minimizing risk of harm by conducting FOD checks, pre-flight inspections, mounting engines high enough off the ground, etc.

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