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kustomkarkommando posted:FG win through controversial VAR decision They don't call him Leonardo De VARadkar for nothing. He invented that machine after all. And another machine that wakes up early in the morning to go hunt down welfare cheats.
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Entropy238 posted:So there's going to be a huge push for any party in power to have the state build houses. Historically, FF did build social housing and won votes for life on the back of it. The only FF TD who would probably still heed that lesson is Eamon O Cuiv, the grandson of the man who got those houses built. The rest of the party hear what people are saying about housing and acknowledge it, but are so in hock to developers that Michael Martin must have felt he had to engage in constitutional snivelry to justify no rent freezes. Like, the gently caress? Would a rent freeze impinge on a landlord's Good Name by implying he is not ever-magnanimous with his tenants? Martin hosed up with that Dobson interview. FG won't do poo poo about housing because they're the party of landlords and big money. Also, Eoghan Murphy was never a Minister for Housing, because the title is a misnomer when it comes to FF/FG. He was in effect the Minister for People with Houses and performed his duties admirably in that regard. Currently, I'm looking to get a house in the next 3 months before FF (who are likely to form the next govt) completely price me out of a home within any reasonable distance to work in Limerick and I'm at my loving limit already. Despite living with my parents and saving a grand a month, half my net pay. Last week they were bitching about the central bank, claiming it wanted people renting forever. They're desperate for house prices to go up and in my view will try to circumvent the central bank to increase them. Govt loans, massive help to buy, whatever it takes. I don't want to live in a society where my only function in life is to go to work, bitch about the commute and listen to bitching about the commute on Newstalk, pay the landlord his exorbitant cut, because I have no choice. Pay the car insurer his loving ludicrous cut as insurance is mandatory and gently caress you the exec wants his new Audi. I don't want to be part of Generation Tenant. I never paid rent in my life and never will. gently caress you FF/FG. School Nickname fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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Remember part of FF's cunning plan to increase housing stock is to provide generous tax breaks to the construction industry - a good bit of the auld tender corruption to funnel some public money to the right fellas to meet housing targets agreed as a price of coalition while giving their mates in the construction sector a helping hand is so insanely FF its almost the joke you'd come up with if you someone asked you to come up with a policy for them.
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If you look at the exit poll it looks like at least 41% of Irish people put down left/social democratic parties that are up for building gaffs as their first preference vote share. That's a pretty strong message, and something positive should come of it.
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Foul Ole Ron posted:Who ever gets in needs to sort out the shambles that is public transport in this country. One extra bridge over the river Shannon north of UL would do the trick for Limerick and to be fair the plans are there. Even then it still doesn't sort out UL's problem as there will still only be two ways out Castletroy effectively for UL and J&J workers. But there's literally hundreds of objections and landlords in Castletroy get €1000 minimum a month per house.
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As a plastic paddy (born in dublin, ancestry is irish but raised in London) what are some good websites or podcasts to get into so I can reconnect with my roots. I used to listen to the irish passport podcast but found ot a bit twee.
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notaspy posted:As a plastic paddy (born in dublin, ancestry is irish but raised in London) what are some good websites or podcasts to get into so I can reconnect with my roots. Just follow Ireland Simpsons fans on twitter and yer grand
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Peter Casey tallies at 1% in Dublin West and 3.21% in Donegal. So that looks like the end for this particular populist blowhard but I'm sure there'll be another one along next election (anyone remember Declan Ganley?)
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notaspy posted:As a plastic paddy (born in dublin, ancestry is irish but raised in London) what are some good websites or podcasts to get into so I can reconnect with my roots. Rubberbandits have a podcast.
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lemonadesweetheart posted:Rubberbandits have a podcast. would second this - though it's Marmite to some people, and he talks out of his hole a fair bit, as much as I like him. Counts are looking good lads - Aontu probably won't get the 2% funding, Gary Gannon will probably beat out the FF candidate if TransferLeft is a real thing, SF outpacing the exit poll nationally...
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forkboy84 posted:What about the royalist commie tho? he's gotten 63 votes total so far, so not looking great. but when did a royalist ever worry about popular assent? https://twitter.com/RTEdubSOUTHWEST/status/1226470565038501888/photo/1
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Now the big test of SF's policies comes into play. We're a country reliant on FDI, using tax as sweetener to prop up large office spaces, while having certain industries that are indigenous (food, agriculture, traditionally bio-chem/medicines) How do they arrange their plans to rebalance the economy towards supporting the lesser off while maintaining the global basis of our economy, and keep plans around for what happens if there's a global turndown. If SF were less euroskeptic I could see them approaching the EU to help tilt things towards a broader corporate tax base (the big Irish gamble) but they've always been hesitant about the EU. I can see them holding off in opposition for another election when they'll run more candidates, and that will mean not seriously engaging with the smaller left parties to create a government. I think that was always their plan and they were caught on the bounce with this election. I'd have no faith in them if they do this. Now's the chance to grab the bull by the horns.
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So in good news Shane Ross looks like he's getting tossed out. That's great news, as far as I am concerned.
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I see no way of either Shane or Leo staying on after all this is over, as they would be seen as responsible for the losses.
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https://twitter.com/DundalkDemocrat/status/1226498636282028032?s=19 75% of boxes opened and SF are on 42% here. Combined FF/FG vote less than 30%. Really surprising collapse of the FF vote, it seems.
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V. Illych L. posted:are they 'fixed the road' types? They're the ultimate "fixed the road" types. PowerBeard posted:I see no way of either Shane or Leo staying on after all this is over, as they would be seen as responsible for the losses. It's going to be a bloodbath in FG come Monday and I cannot wait.
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Meanwhile in the hellscape of Kildare South:Irish Times posted:Sinn Féin’s Patricia Ryan is forecasted to top the poll in Kildare South. Kind reminder that Patricia Ryan was on her holidays for most of the campaign and people just want SF in at this stage.
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https://twitter.com/fiachkelly/status/1226496561036890112 looking forward to our new rulers, combining the integrity of FF with the transparency of SF
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Standish posted:https://twitter.com/fiachkelly/status/1226496561036890112 Can't see Martin agreeing to this as he's staked so much publicly on saying never - might be time for a heave? I know there's definately fellas in FF who would want SF as their first pick as coalition
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lemonadesweetheart posted:FF/SF would be the second worst possibility to come from this. FF/FG being the worst. if somehow they needed to be propped up by the Healy-Raes at the cost of Michael being minister for the environment and Danny being minster for transport, that would be the worst. kustomkarkommando posted:Can't see Martin agreeing to this as he's staked so much publicly on saying never - might be time for a heave? I know there's definately fellas in FF who would want SF as their first pick as coalition
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V. Illych L. posted:if SF is surging due to discontent, going into coalition with a more of the same party as a junior partner is probably not the best move A couple of weeks ago I would have said they where very ready to go into coalition with FF - polling almost dead heat with them does change that I think. Only way I can see them biting is if FF agrees to the rent freeze and one month rebate, they get a 50/50 cabinet split and I could even see SF reviving the old Dick Spring demand for a rotating Taoiseach between coalition parties - a demand which would probably seem outlandish to FF but could probably be sold as reasonable to the electorate considering SF's vote share
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SF and FF is bad for SF. I'd say SF let it go to a another election to try capitalise on SF popularity (pushing more candidates). But it does not mean that will work. A lot of people on the streets buy into SF being leftist and against Ff/FG, it would wipe out their base support to form a coalition.
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Foul Ole Ron posted:SF and FF is bad for SF. I'd say SF let it go to a another election to try capitalise on SF popularity (pushing more candidates). the flip side to this is if SF can wrest spectacular enough concessions from FF to justify it to their base. SF is in the third party dream position of potentially usurping one of the major parties at the same time as having clear options outside of the established parties. it's going to be interesting, for sure
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