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bob dobbs is dead posted:They are now finally on back order, lol I'm over in Austin so I might be able to get an order in quick since there's a large Amazon warehouse in town
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I’m sure it’s been mentioned, but if any of y’all are going nuts with masks, be careful with old surplus gas masks/filters. Some of them uses asbestos in the filters, so yeah, pick your poison I guess.
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If this stuff really comes to the US proper you will have to wear them for like 2 to 4 months, so bank on that and also supplies having run out Your best bet is probably the cheap 30bux reusable and lots of the 3m 2097 generic filters bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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Son of Rodney posted:If you're concidering wearing a mask stay home you dumbasses. They're close to useless for protecting yourself and if you don't want to infect anybody that's when you stay home and don't be a selfish rear end in a top hat . I don't care how long ago this was you stupid loving piece of poo poo but some of us need to actually get food to survive and have to visit stores. gently caress you.
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Shaocaholica posted:Is China pro or anti robotics? I mean, what’s the point of a large population if you can replace most of them with robots. human labor is still, at the moment, cheaper.
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Nurge posted:I don't care how long ago this was you stupid loving piece of poo poo but some of us need to actually get food to survive and have to visit stores. gently caress you.
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poty posted:https://twitter.com/xuhulk/status/1226584043824852993 Was just imagining myself in this scenario and realized my cats would probably die if this happened. We have an auto feeder and fountain so leaving them for weekends is never an issue but if we couldn’t get home for weeks...  wonder how many people are in a similar situation over there.
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HAM ON THE BONE posted:Was just imagining myself in this scenario and realized my cats would probably die if this happened. We have an auto feeder and fountain so leaving them for weekends is never an issue but if we couldn’t get home for weeks... I’d probably call a friend to feed them
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Behold, the four Horseman of the apocalypse are here https://twitter.com/trutsle/status/1223973114197037062
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Yeah because all of the people going to quarantine were wearing full suits. Seems way smarter to me as no need to decontaminate absolutely everything.
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quote:The death toll from the coronavirus surpassed the number of people who were killed by the 2002-2003 SARS outbreak, Chinese health officials said. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-death-toll-hits-812-surpassing-sars-fatalities/story?id=68860340
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Trainee PornStar posted:Hence mentioning 'same as the rest of the world' :P China's medium age is not as old as the developed world but a lot older than the developing world (i.e. India, Iran, Africa etc)
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How is India still unaffected, this seems like the ideal place if you thrive on no hygiene and concentrated poverty
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Nurge posted:I don't care how long ago this was you stupid loving piece of poo poo but some of us need to actually get food to survive and have to visit stores. gently caress you. I meant not going out to work or socialist or do anything not strictly necessary for your survival. I keep forgetting to mention these super obvious things for normal humans, seeing as I'm sitting in my self sustainable sky fortress above Mt. Everest. Man I live in the most populous city in the EU, I'd get hosed by this too if it reaches here. At this point if people feel better with their dumb masks then go for broke, I'd vastly prefer if people actually practiced proper hygiene and self quarantine instead though. Or even better, both.
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Son of Rodney posted:I meant not going out to work or socialist or do anything not strictly necessary for your survival. I keep forgetting to mention these super obvious things for normal humans, seeing as I'm sitting in my self sustainable sky fortress above Mt. Everest. So potentially infected people should go out to get food and stuff, but shouldn't bother wearing a mask to avoid infecting others while they do so? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Why don't the police shoot up Harley Quinn in the police precinct? Is this movie set in Norway where policemen don't carry firearms?
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Son of Rodney posted:I meant not going out to work or socialist or do anything not strictly necessary for your survival. I keep forgetting to mention these super obvious things for normal humans, seeing as I'm sitting in my self sustainable sky fortress above Mt. Everest. Maybe I was a bit too aggressive but the whole point of the masks is to not infect others if you do have to go out.
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unpacked robinhood posted:How is India still unaffected, this seems like the ideal place if you thrive on no hygiene and concentrated poverty As others have speculated, the virus may hate heat. If true, it will disappear soon enough on its own.
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Jabor posted:So potentially infected people should go out to get food and stuff, but shouldn't bother wearing a mask to avoid infecting others while they do so? Not sure why you got probated, if this discussions is seen as detrimental to the thread I'll drop it, but the main problem right now is that masks are only recommended or all that useful when used correctly and appropriately for the situation. If someone is diagnosed as having coronavirus, is for some reason not monitored and absolutely has to go out by himself, then he should by all means wear a mask. In almost all other scenarios though, such as wearing one preventively, wearing them for prolonged times, moving around a lot while wearing one, not knowing how to use them, etc. they have very limited benefits and can give people a sense of false security which can cause more infections. On top of this I've read that health professionals are already seeing shortages of these masks, that they desperately need to take care of patients, because people who might never need them buy a shitload of them. I'm gonna drop this topic anyway and I'm sorry for derailing the thread with this, the importance of using health related tools and procedures correctly was hammered into me when I did my civil service as a young man, and I get irritated when people ignore scientific and medical research because they don't trust it. To be fair if a plague reached my city I'd do everything I could as well propably.
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Dunno about that heat thing, viruses live in the body so should at least be happy at anything up to 38C/105F degrees.
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Xi Jinping if you're reading this thread, this is a pretty weird flex bro. Not gonna lie.
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Goffer posted:Dunno about that heat thing, viruses live in the body so should at least be happy at anything up to 38C/105F degrees. Warm body not the same as warm and dry surface. ...but what if heat makes it stronger???
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frogge posted:2-14 days later on a disease that we've known has been hopping from person to person since... December? Whoever posted that this disease is possibly a trial run for the PRC to assert its power over its citizens and see what they can get away with during the crisis is starting to seem more and more likely to be the case the longer this goes on without a sudden spike in hospitalizations in other countries. There's a lot of one handed posting by people that are fear-mongering and getting off on it and every week the time to panic about it gets a reset instead of the slightest acknowledgement that maybe this isn't going to end civilization as we know it. Based on Chinese transmission rates, if it's spreading undetected in the US then right now we're probably 3-4 weeks away from a serious strain on medical resources. It's way too early to be making judgments on whether this is going to wind up being a serious problem in the US. I'll happily call someone a moron for prepping their doomsday bunker with n95 masks and ovaltine but it's also way too early to declare this a non-situation
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unpacked robinhood posted:How is India still unaffected, this seems like the ideal place if you thrive on no hygiene and concentrated poverty The incubation period is up to 2 weeks and the serious complications that might result in someone even being tested may not show up for two to three weeks after that. There's virtually no way to know whether it's spreading there right now, since the early symptoms are basically just a mild cold, and no one is going to be tested for coronavirus just because they're coughing a little If India's not seeing a bunch of mystery pneumonia in 3 weeks then we can declare them "unaffected". But right now? Who knows
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The reported mortality rates so far are only double the normal yearly influenza so while it's gnarly compared to most of the other stuff that's come up lately this is hardly the doomsday virus or anything. Just a bad luck thing that'll probably get forgotten pretty soon after it passes. I'd be surprised if the death count even reaches that of malaria yearly. e: It does seem that it mutates faster than most other pathogens like it, so it might be too early to say for sure. Nurge fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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unpacked robinhood posted:How is India still unaffected, this seems like the ideal place if you thrive on no hygiene and concentrated poverty There’s like 2 confirmed cases and 2500 suspected cases as of a few days ago. They just might be unable to test.
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Nurge posted:The reported mortality rates so far are only double the normal yearly influenza so while it's gnarly compared to most of the other stuff that's come up lately this is hardly the doomsday virus or anything. Just a bad luck thing that'll probably get forgotten pretty soon after it passes. I'd be surprised if the death count even reaches that of malaria yearly. Where are you getting your numbers from? The studies I've read place the mortality rate among elderly populations between 2-5% for the early cases, hundreds of times higher than how seasonal flu effects the same groups. But the true rate is still largely unknown since we don't really know how many infected are in Wuhan, or what fraction of them will die QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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QuarkJets posted:Where are you getting your numbers from? The studies I've read place the mortality rate between 2-5% for the early cases, hundreds of times higher than seasonal flu. But the true rate is still largely unknown since we don't really know how many infected are in Wuhan, or what fraction of them will die The TV news said 2% vs 1% for influenza. vOv This is the chart in question:  The news says it's from WHO. Nurge fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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Nurge posted:The TV news said 2% vs 1% for influenza. vOv Influenza is usually 0.1% fatality rate
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Nurge posted:The TV news said 2% vs 1% for influenza. vOv https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_pandemic Scroll down to the table titled "Influenza pandemics" to see the fatality rates for the pandemics (worse than normal years) TL;DR 0.1-0.2% for all of them except the Spanish Flu of 1918.
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Nurge posted:The TV news said 2% vs 1% for influenza. vOv You may have misunderstood what was being reported; the CDC reports that the mortality rate for influenza this year, which has been unusually virulent, is 0.05%. Only very rarely does a flu pandemic exceed 0.1% QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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QuarkJets posted:You may have misunderstood what was being reported; the CDC reports that the mortality rate for influenza this year, which has been unusually virulent, is 0.05%. Only very rarely does a flu pandemic exceed 0.1% I mean this is of people who were reported ill, not total population. Which is obvious if you look at the ebola bit. e: Either way like I don't know maybe the news hosed up as usual. They say the charts are from WHO though. Nurge fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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Nurge posted:I mean this is of people who were reported ill, not total population. Which is obvious if you look at the ebola bit. That's what the CDC reports as well: of only infected individuals, less than 0.1% die in a typical year. This year 0.05% of flu-infected people have died
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Hey guys it’s only a hundred times more deadly than this year’s flu. Nbd stock up on your masks and lotion (for jerkin’ it!!)
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Dog Toothbrush posted:Hey guys it’s only a hundred times more deadly than this year’s flu. Nbd stock up on your masks and lotion (for jerkin’ it!!) It's only as bad as the worst flu pandemic we have ever recorded, nothing to worry about!
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Burt Sexual posted:call a friend Well I'm screwed.
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Peachfart posted:As others have speculated, the virus may hate heat. If true, it will disappear soon enough on its own. MERS is a coronavirus right? And it's from the middle east, they can't be that vulnerable to the heat.
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It was shown in some research articles that it is usually taking 3 weeks after symptoms show up to kill the patient. This means, the dead we have numbers for are from the infected population 3 weeks ago, so should be compared to the total number of infected at that time when calculating the fatalities. We also would need to count the infected that haven't been screened and counted for whatever reason. There are models that estimate total uncounted infected ranging from 50,000 to 200,000 in Wuhan like a week ago. None of these models can be verified in real time, or they wouldn't be uncounted. The time delays combined with the things that are impossible to know for certain make everything difficult to sort out in real time. Death rate could be higher or lower than 2%, but there seems to be significant evidence of uncontrolled transmission. Edit: There are also unverifiable reports claiming that there are dead not being classified as this because they didn't have a test done on them to verify the virus. That could leave the death count much higher than it currently looks on the official tally. This could really go either way at this point. Day Man fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Feb 10, 2020 |
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Lote posted:There’s like 2 confirmed cases and 2500 suspected cases as of a few days ago. They just might be unable to test. Lol what if India has it, is unable to test and just goes along as usual until it blows over. Something something trees in a forest.
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