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Sabreseven posted:Ehhem, I'm very sorry that I'm not ok with letting everyone dress like children at work. Maybe it's that my employees and myself have to deal with both the public and with other business people who DO dress and present themselves like adults that makes me such a bore with dress codes and formality. I'm so thankful I've never had a boss who considered piercings, tatoos or "t-shirts with a teddy bear on it" (or whatever) to be "childish". Jesus christ I wanna punch you in the mouth right now.
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trucutru posted:You're definitely showing your age. I think that's the problem. gently caress, I feel old lmao 
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Come on, folks, I come here when my depression is acting up and I need some laughs. Yet I get here now and it's all system admin talk and arguments about work clothes. The stuff with the Expanse guy is funny as poo poo, though.
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Sabreseven posted:Ehhem, I'm very sorry that I'm not ok with letting everyone dress like children at work. Maybe it's that my employees and myself have to deal with both the public and with other business people who DO dress and present themselves like adults that makes me such a bore with dress codes and formality. There's no such thing as dressing like "children" or dressing like an "adult" unless you have 30-somethings showing up to work in 1-piece zippered pink PJs with bunny ears on them. It's exceptionally bizarre to link age to clothing - I've never even heard that done before today. That said I do agree clothing can portray a certain level of competence. For example, a person wearing a suit is most likely an untrustworthy thief and psychopath, or a person needing to meet with and negotiate with untrustworthy thieves and psychopaths. Dress shirt and tie is usually someone you can remove from any given company without an impact on that company's actual output, with occasional exception. And so on. It's really an age-old societal safety valve. The thinking went along these lines: the least useful people in society dress a certain way and act pompous. That way when the aliens invade, they kill all those people first, thinking they're cutting the head off the snake. That leaves the useful people behind to fight off the invasion. When it's safe, you take the people who were least useful during the revolution, give them "professional dress," tell them it makes them adults, teach them to be patronizing and condescending about it, then put them on the front lines for the next time. Classic decoy strategy. It's the reason politicians wear suits.
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colonelwest posted:Lol Steam and Discord are “unsupported applications” What gamer doesn't have Steam going at startup? Better question: what gamer would want to stop it launching at startup for something like SC?
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colonelwest posted:Lol Steam and Discord are “unsupported applications” The problem with that is that Star Citizen is also an unsupported application. It's also not an application.
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Sabreseven posted:Ehhem, I'm very sorry that I'm not ok with letting everyone dress like children at work.
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Bronze Fonz posted:I'm so thankful I've never had a boss who considered piercings, tatoos or "t-shirts with a teddy bear on it" (or whatever) to be "childish". Lmao Teddy bear t-shirts are definitely childish, especially if worn by people who are over 20. :P Pay you're newpage taxxe! Happy_Misanthrope posted:christ shut up, of all the things to bitch about in a thread about this loving game lol, stop reading it then muppet. Sabreseven fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Feb 10, 2020 |
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Sabreseven posted:I think that's the problem. Sabreseven posted:Lmao Recognising that you're old and out of touch then laughing it off without addressing the fact that you're wrong doesn't make you a 'loveable old curmudgeon' like you seem to think it does, it just makes you even more of an insufferable oval office.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Recognising that you're old and out of touch then laughing it off without addressing the fact that you're wrong doesn't make you a 'loveable old curmudgeon' like you seem to think it does, it just makes you even more of an insufferable oval office. Mate, I was laughing about it as soon as it was posted like 2 pages back, and I definitely didn't need to call anyone a oval office over it.
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Feb 10, 2020 01:27
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Sabreseven posted:lol, stop reading it then muppet. stop posting
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Feb 10, 2020 01:31
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You're both cunts. So anyway, how about that server meshing? Really coming along nicely, yeah?
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Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:Come on, folks, I come here when my depression is acting up and I need some laughs. Yet I get here now and it's all system admin talk and arguments about work clothes. Laughs are now sourced second and third-hand, from people stalking Citizens across the web and reposting twitter takes and comment section clips here, or from people reacting to those clips, or reacting to the reactions. We're basically the D&D USPOL thread except the grifter we obsessively hate is in Santa Monica instead of Mar A Lago.
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I wear anime T-shirts to IT work, do I win something? I think one or two colleagues asked me about "that Japanese stuff" once, but that was it  (It's not those awful ahegao things, though, ahegao hoodies ppl should re-think their whole life. Just official stuff like this or this )
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IAbsolveMyself posted:So anyway, how about that server meshing? Really coming along nicely, yeah? Didn't they abandon that (temporarily apparently) to make way for ToW while stating that S54 was the reason for all the hold ups on ssocococoss?
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Feb 10, 2020 01:41
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the most recent post in that resetera digital foundry thread, whoops someone made the mistake of actually trying it
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Scruffpuff posted:There's no such thing as dressing like "children" or dressing like an "adult" unless you have 30-somethings showing up to work in 1-piece zippered pink PJs with bunny ears on them. It's exceptionally bizarre to link age to clothing - I've never even heard that done before today. That said I do agree clothing can portray a certain level of competence. For example, a person wearing a suit is most likely an untrustworthy thief and psychopath, or a person needing to meet with and negotiate with untrustworthy thieves and psychopaths. Dress shirt and tie is usually someone you can remove from any given company without an impact on that company's actual output, with occasional exception. And so on. Same here. Dude in a suit? He's out to gently caress you in any way possible. Dude in a suit that tries to butter me up with compliments? Alarms blaring.
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I'm all for dressing professionally and working from nine to five and having a two day weekend. Of course, if people in IT did that then literally the entire industry would come crashing down, but we'd look very smart doing it!
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Do you ever think that it might not be from a practical angle that you care, but more from a desire to enforce your personal ideals on the only people who are compelled to follow them?
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Sabreseven posted:Ehhem, I'm very sorry that I'm not ok with letting everyone dress like children at work. Maybe it's that my employees and myself have to deal with both the public and with other business people who DO dress and present themselves like adults that makes me such a bore with dress codes and formality. What industry are you in? Some industries that's required; healthcare and legal tend to have a stick up their butts. Britain's got a weird attitude to acceptable dress that slackens off the further south you go. I'm networking, which is high level nerding. Having said that, being presentable, engaged, interested and knowing things (drinking optional, but traditional) can really put you on the top of the heap. monkeytek posted:I draw the line at hygiene. if you are a filthy pig or simply don't care about taking showers more than once a month I'll have an issue with it. Oh yeah, hygiene's actually a problem in Tech sometimes. I've handed more than one colleague a breath mint.
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Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:What gamer doesn't have Steam going at startup?  I don't even have a Steam account.
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From Twitter: : I’ve been trying to talk my brother in joining me in the ‘Verse but he’s been stubborn about it. Doesn’t want to play an alpha. I understand of course but I think he and I would have so much fun together. Trying not to push him too hard. Lol : Maybe it's the different expectations of "playing an alpha" vs experiencing a universe being built... There is no more beautiful and immersive spaceship experience anywhere 2 : I like to think of it this way... true space enthusiasts want to at least check out Star Citizen now for the experience rather than typically gameplay loops. Gameplay loops/content would be nice and is coming... but like your awesome forest morning screenshot, it's the experience : Ah yes, the "your not a true space enthusiast if you want game play" defense for #StarCitizen. : Dude WTF really? 🤔We'er just talking about what we love about Star Citizen, if you hate it go play something else and come back in a few years? Sure Elite Dangerous has game mechanics and an infinite universe, sorry I got bored of it after 50 hours.
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<3 years later> if you hate it go play something else and come back in a few years?
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Hav posted:Having said that, being presentable, engaged, interested and knowing things (drinking optional, but traditional) can really put you on the top of the heap. "Presentable" is the magic word here. Example: the Star Citizen JPEGs are very presentable. I hear people pay good money for them. Do they work? Does anything?
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History Comes Inside! posted:Recognising that you're old and out of touch then laughing it off without addressing the fact that you're wrong doesn't make you a 'loveable old curmudgeon' like you seem to think it does, it just makes you even more of an insufferable oval office. Nah, he's a loveable old curmudgeon. peter gabriel posted:what is 'working' anyway? Technically, right now, this is for me. Scruffpuff posted:"Presentable" is the magic word here. It's also largely value-free, but mediated by other people. Edit: Space games are for casuals - real men use Space Engine. Heroes play 'Orbiter'. http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/ Hav fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Feb 10, 2020 |
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colonelwest posted:their boss dresses like some kind of weird steampunk wizard, and the head of our entire organization is an Army Colonel who wears his baggy camo Army Combat Uniform to work everyday. hideo kojima would love your workplace
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peter gabriel posted:what is 'working' anyway? Crowdfunding 275 million.
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Dementropy posted:From Twitter: Love how a game sucks even if he played it for 50 hours. Rarely do I ever play a game beyond 50 hours, that only happens on 2-3 games a year. Seriously sometimes you have to realize you actually did see everything worth seeing in a game and move on. It just shows even more how star citizens expect the game to define the rest of their life.
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Hav posted:What industry are you in? Some industries that's required; healthcare and legal tend to have a stick up their butts. Britain's got a weird attitude to acceptable dress that slackens off the further south you go. I'm networking, which is high level nerding. Road Haulage and very heavy plant hire, mostly deal with South Africa but I'm British. When I started the business it was literally just me and my slightly rough looking old truck and trailer doing delivery runs for random companies around southeast England and France and it got a bit out of hand and turned into a much larger effort than I had planned, last count was 78 people on the books and growing. I rarely do any of the grunt work these days, I'd love to do some, but I always seem to find myself in time consuming "talks" or negotiations with some other business fellow, governmental official or land owner. I cannot do nerding at any level as I lack patience and finesse, more than one keyboard has left my house via an open window in the past
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kilus aof posted:Gamers overestimate how original every element in their favourite games are. This isn't a Star Citizen attitude, this is a gaming attitude where they believe their personal experience and gaming history to be the same path. If they haven't seen it in a game they love then it doesn't exist. I think it's more the split of 'Fan' there. Fans don't care about the object of their fandom, but making it their own. They 'own' the thing, and go to great lengths to defend it from all comers, including in some choice examples the originator of the 'thing'. This applies to people as well, they're entirely objectified. I believe that it's a form of mental illness, but I've not seen anything in the DSM that comes close other than an offshoot of obsessive compulsive disorder, but it's a very vocal and loud minority or an 'extreme'. We're kinda the other end of that extreme, but I don't _disbelieve_ in the project, I apply my experience against the stated aims and goals.
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Sabreseven posted:Road Haulage and very heavy plant hire, mostly deal with South Africa but I'm British. When I started the business it was literally just me and my slightly rough looking old truck and trailer doing delivery runs for random companies around southeast England and France and it got a bit out of hand and turned into a much larger effort than I had planned, last count was 78 people on the books and growing. I rarely do any of the grunt work these days, I'd love to do some, but I always seem to find myself in time consuming "talks" or negotiations with some other business fellow, governmental official or land owner. this is amazing 
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It's just tribalism. All true gamers know that X is bad and Y is good. I don't know if identifying as a brand is going to be called a mental disorder given it applies to every sports fan since the dawn of regional teams. When the object of their affection jumps the shark it's even weirder - watching Bioware/Blizzard fans throw out No True Scotsman arguments has been fun for a while. People think it's odd for nerd stuff because regional pride is considered a virtue and being a fan of a company is not. In terms of SC you'd probably get a better read if you checked into the section on cults.
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Sabreseven posted:Ehhem, I'm very sorry that I'm not ok with letting everyone dress like children at work. Maybe it's that my employees and myself have to deal with both the public and with other business people who DO dress and present themselves like adults that makes me such a bore with dress codes and formality. Attention to personal appearance is just as important as any other attention to the needs of your customer. When a client hires my firm they are doing so because they have been made to feel that they are the priority in our relationship. Personal self expression by me or our staff only detracts from that relationship. Narcissism isn't a skill nor a service anyone should be willing to pay for.
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downout posted:this is amazing No it really isn't, it's literally just a lot of luck, knowing a few of the 'right' people and hard work, a lot of hard work over 25 years or thereabouts. It hasn't made me a millionaire and it probably never will, but it's been good and worthwhile, the journey is always better than the destination.  I just hope my kids learn from my mistakes and work in an industry that isn't such a ballache lol.ClownBobo posted:Attention to personal appearance is just as important as any other attention to the needs of your customer. When a client hires my firm they are doing so because they have been made to feel that they are the priority in our relationship. Personal self expression by me or our staff only detracts from that relationship. Narcissism isn't a skill nor a service anyone should be willing to pay for. You've said it far better than my yammerings via the medium of sausage fingers hammering upon a keyboard ever could.
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ClownBobo posted:Attention to personal appearance is just as important as any other attention to the needs of your customer. When a client hires my firm they are doing so because they have been made to feel that they are the priority in our relationship. Personal self expression by me or our staff only detracts from that relationship. Narcissism isn't a skill nor a service anyone should be willing to pay for.
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