sportsgenius86 posted:

I just took it as them showing how this poor man's extreme plight is just a fun game for a rich kid.

theblackw0lf posted:

I still see too many people viewing the Park family as the "bad guys". When according to Bong he intentionally made the Park family a family that has many appealing qualities, and the critique was more on the system that leads to the Park family, who by most accounts are just a good family, still oblivious to their privilege and how the disconnect between the rich and poor lead to unintentional harmful behavior. And also how that divide leads to a lack of empathy and understanding.

There's a quote that Bong said paraphrasing was "I wanted to make a film where there's no real villain, and have the audience ask themselves how did things play out the way they did when there were really no "bad" people involved?"

TrixRabbi posted:

Chud takes on Parasite are great but the ones I can't stand are the "It wasn't sufficiently leftist" takes, which are really starting to come out in droves. It's all about how capitalism pits poor people against each other instead of uniting to recognize their common struggle! It lies and convinces people that there's a limited amount of pie and the rich already have theirs so we need to fight for the crumbs rather than uniting and demanding an equal share from the rich! And the rich family are depicted as oblivious to the suffering of their employees and despite having empathy for them still ultimately see them more as tools than as people and in the end are completely flummoxed and confused as to what drove the Kims to madness -- because they live completely above the struggle.

Steve Yun posted:

https://twitter.com/modooborahae/status/1227003413336031239?s=21

Kind of wild to see the actor for Geunse with a full head of hair

Hand Knit posted:

Shoplifters being better isn't a wild take. It's much better than just good. Though I'm sure you're right about this being some dweeb performing their authenticity.

Basebf555 posted:

Kinda like Blood Sport. Or Mortal Kombat

Hand Knit posted:

Shoplifters being better isn't a wild take. It's much better than just good. Though I'm sure you're right about this being some dweeb performing their authenticity.

Alan Smithee posted:

I'm willing to bet there's "and yet Bong Joon Ho takes part in society " takes especially since he hangs with hollywood libs now (the same people who think Ricky Gervais is a breath of fresh air)

the worst I saw was some nobody rear end critic going on about Shoplifters being better (haven't seen, I'm sure it's fine) in just the most insufferable way

coronavirus posted:

Wait, whats wrong with Gervais now? He made some of the best TV series ever.

Also him calling out the sex pests in hollywood at the golden globes seems like a good thing

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After a few days to digest, here are my thoughts on the movie Parasite. It was absolutely brilliant. I was triggered for the entire duration, but I have to admit that it was brilliant.

I have friends, family, and associates in Korea who are super rich and who are super poor. I know folks like the Kims who live in basement dwellings and I know folks like the Parks who live in lavish mansions and tall skyscrapers. For now, I'm just going to talk about my interactions with people like the Park family. And yes, the rich are super out of touch with reality. I might write more on the Kims later but I think more of you can relate to the Kims and working class folks than the Parks so I'll start with the Parks.

I visited South Korea many times since 2008. I usually stayed for a few months at a time, and in 2013 I was there a whole year. Here are some stories from those days.

As a native English speaker when I was living in Korea, I got paid $50-80 an hour to tutor their super rich kids. Did they see my resume? No. Just like "Kevin," the parents had no idea where University of Maryland is, but they were satisfied that I am an American and I went to college. They liked that I have an English name. My fellow Korean American tutors with Korean names had to make up English names to get clients.

One rich family I know used their money and influence to send their daughter to a very prestigious university in the US. Apparently she was a slacker, because I got paid thousands of dollars to write her papers and her finals. I got PAID to study psychology, astronomy, and art history. This is why I have random rear end science facts in my brain and I dominate trivia nights in the science category. I would meet this person at her gated home, say hello to her live-in house servant, pick up a hard drive and crank out essays after essays for a full year. If I stayed late, her driver would drive me home. She got an A in all of her classes.

I've also had my rich English students in Korea hit on me, like the girl in the film did to the main character, while their parents ignored them to focus their time and energy on their sons when they weren't working. They were too young so I was like hell no (I was in my early twenties and a virgin, they were 16-18). But I wasn't the first teacher they tried to hook up with and apparently they spent all of their free time hooking up with older strangers in Itaewon in retaliation (either to me for rejecting them or as a way to lash out at their parents).

The younger students I taught were hard to deal with (the little boy's age in Parasite) because their parents insisted on sitting in on every lesson. They pay more attention to their sons than their daughters. I taught one kid in Gangnam who liked to scribble and draw comics. His parents kept bragging about how much of a genius he is, using words like "metaphorical." Ten years later I find out they trained and sent him to a really, really expensive art school in NY. I haven't really kept up with them so I wonder where all of these kids are now.

I guess this is why Parasite resonated with me. I know the Parks and I know the Kims. And they all drive me f*cking insane.

Steve Yun posted:

Colonel Whitey posted:

As long as people are posting nuclear hot takes about parasite winning, I have a “fat man” to drop in here

https://twitter.com/bongjoonwhore/status/1226811394206531584?s=21

RichterIX posted:

All their hot daughters were throwing themselves at me left and right but I was all like, no

porfiria posted:

Weird victim blaming at the end.

coronavirus posted:

Wait, whats wrong with Gervais now? He made some of the best TV series ever.

Also him calling out the sex pests in hollywood at the golden globes seems like a good thing

YaketySass posted:

My read of Ki-jung and Da-hye is that he was seriously deluded that her parents would ever put up with it if they found out (same deal as his dream of success at the end), but I have no context for how culturally accepted that kind of relation would be. It sounds like an overly improbable "crook has a brilliant scheme to seduce the rich heiress" type story to my ears, something that could never have a "happy" ending within the universe of the movie, not even getting into the fact that everyone involved has ulterior motives.

Negostrike posted:

They're just trying to survive.

Steve Yun posted:

YaketySass posted:

Wondering what non-zero percent of the audience went in expecting something like Alien with a title like that.

Henchman of Santa posted:

His constant transphobia and “sorry you were offended” shtick is incredibly tiresome.

coronavirus posted:

Ah. I've never heard anything transphobic from him, but I am not really on twitter or anything like that so I guess I've missed it.

coronavirus posted:

Ah. I've never heard anything transphobic from him, but I am not really on twitter or anything like that so I guess I've missed it.

GrandpaPants posted:

I'll pull the band aid off and tell you that JK Rowling is also transphobic.

Are subs actually like, a big deal for people (barring like, eg, dyslexia)? I've never felt like I was "missing" the movie because I was reading the subs, but maybe it's because I spent my wayward youth watching anime. I just don't get the argument that they're distracting?

YaketySass posted:

My read of Ki-woo and Da-hye is that he was seriously deluded that her parents would ever put up with it if they found out (same deal as his dream of success at the end), but I have no context for how culturally accepted that kind of relation would be. It sounds like an overly improbable "crook has a brilliant scheme to seduce the rich heiress" type story to my ears, something that could never have a "happy" ending within the universe of the movie, not even getting into the fact that everyone involved has ulterior motives.