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Rhonne posted:What if Deku...is a nomu! He has cool shoes just like Johnny and that other tiny nomu in the lab! Ah, I think I heard about this in the Tale of Darth Fatwood the Wise
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I think if Deku did have a stolen Quirk, it would have to be something world-shattering to the point that OfA is the lesser choice. And Shigaraki has it now, but can't use it yet because his power transfer is about to be interrupted before it's complete. He'll have to learn how to activate it on his own, just like Deku is learning all of OfA's latent powers. Because the ultimate villain is a dark mirror of the hero, you see.
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Feb 11, 2020 16:24
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I could be down for the whole Deku having a quirk but it just being a low key useful one that was stolen for versatility.
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Feb 11, 2020 16:29
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If he had a quirk it was probably psychokinesis of nearby fire, an excellent counter to Endeavor.
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Feb 11, 2020 16:33
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:It's this. The problem is that it's bad no matter which way it falls. I am not the writer of the series so it's not really my job to make it interesting. Ultimately it in itself won't be what makes it interesting, context of how it is revealed and the manner in which it is revealed is what can make it interesting. Is it going to be thematically super important that Deku had a quirk? Probably not. Can it be a plot device for something interesting? Maybe. I think what will sink it is that it is a false positive idea where unless I am right, will never actually get commented on it addressed. But if not in this arc, then I reckon never.
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Feb 11, 2020 16:44
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This story is way more interesting with Deku as an unfortunate kid whose parents' gifts passed him over, but if there has to be a Quirk, I hope it doesn't have anything to do with fire. It just feels like a typical main character power, though oddly enough, the first characters who came to mind were Sasuke and Hiei, who are technically main characters, but not in the way I thought of.
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Feb 11, 2020 16:47
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M_Gargantua posted:If he had a quirk it was probably psychokinesis of nearby fire, an excellent counter to Endeavor. Fire Breath+telekinetic pull/gravitational pull=Fire "Breathing", the ability to breath in fire as if it were air.
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Feb 11, 2020 16:51
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I dunno why so many of you are against Deku having his original quirk stolen, I personally like the idea.
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Feb 11, 2020 19:44
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dazoner posted:I dunno why so many of you are against Deku having his original quirk stolen, I personally like the idea. It’s deeply unnecessary and kinda ruins the thematic idea of Deku’s arc. He was a young boy born with no power but a deeply heroic heart and saying “Psyche! You actually were born with powers!” would undermine that while gaining nothing but cheap drama. It would be like if Captain America had actually been secretly buff before he received the super serum.
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Feb 11, 2020 19:59
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dazoner posted:I dunno why so many of you are against Deku having his original quirk stolen, I personally like the idea. A lot of the story hinges on the fact that Deku was born quirkless, incapable of ever reaching his dream, worse than everyone else by society's standards. It's why his relationship with Bakugo is what it is (Deku idolized the young Kacchan that could do anything and had a super powerful Quirk, Kacchan saw Deku as an useless poo poo because he had no Quirk), it's why Deku looks up to every hero and wildly collects information, it's why Deku and All Might bond with each other (both his courage in acting even without any capability to defend himself, and the fact that Toshinori was once Quirkless himself). Him having a Quirk that was taken from him shatters all of this. And let's be honest here: this is a shonen. If Horikoshi pulls that twist, it'll be with an incredibly powerful mutated Quirk, not with fire breathing or telekinesis. And at that point what makes Midoriya Izuku charming disappears completely.
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Feb 11, 2020 20:00
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Also, can you steal a quirk that hasn't manifested yet? And when it does appear, it's pretty noticeable.
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Feb 11, 2020 20:14
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Somewhat off the subject but in cases like Toga, I’ve always wondered how the person found out they had a quirk in the first place when it requires other people in order to work.
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Feb 11, 2020 20:19
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It is funny that having no quirk is seen as a big deal when the people of this universe have access to crazy technology that honestly surpasses a lot of quirks. A quirkless person who learns to use a fancy Aizawa battle-scarf is still more powerful than a person with a lame or even mid-level quirk.
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Feb 11, 2020 20:19
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Larryb posted:Somewhat off the subject but In cases like Toga, I’ve always wondered how the person found out they had a quirk in the first place when it requires other people in order to work. Part of her quirk seems to be a thirst for the blood of whoever she’s got a crush on, so she probably found out about the effects after biting someone
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Feb 11, 2020 20:21
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Do the toes of people whose Quirks were taken change to look like toes of people without Quirks to begin with?
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Feb 11, 2020 20:22
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Libra posted:It is funny that having no quirk is seen as a big deal when the people of this universe have access to crazy technology that honestly surpasses a lot of quirks. Hell, one of the main characters in Vigilantes is technically quirkless but he trained his body so much that it doesn’t really matter much as far as his combat ability is concerned.
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Feb 11, 2020 20:25
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Larryb posted:Hell, one of the main characters in Vigilantes is technically quirkless but he trained his body so much that it doesn’t really matter much as far as his combat ability is concerned. He's also hopped up on painkillers, which probably helps when you jump on buildings into piles of trash. Also, he's probably dead by now. 
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Feb 11, 2020 21:15
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Libra posted:It is funny that having no quirk is seen as a big deal when the people of this universe have access to crazy technology that honestly surpasses a lot of quirks. This is like saying you only need to become an MMA champion, Olympic level athlete or trained sniper to surpass someone who can set people on fire as easily as brushing their teeth in the morning.
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Feb 11, 2020 21:32
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Libra posted:It is funny that having no quirk is seen as a big deal when the people of this universe have access to crazy technology that honestly surpasses a lot of quirks. 'cause everything a quirkless person can do, someone else can do plus whatever their quirk lets them do. Hell, that's p much the entire point of Aizawa and Shinso.
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Feb 11, 2020 21:47
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Right, but most characters in the spotlight are people with good quirks suitable for being a hero/villain, while I get the impression that the "average" quirk is something like the ability to manipulate gravy or the power to insert a USB device the right side up every time or possibly the power to resemble a walrus.
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Feb 11, 2020 22:13
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Blaze Dragon posted:A lot of the story hinges on the fact that Deku was born quirkless, incapable of ever reaching his dream, worse than everyone else by society's standards. It's why his relationship with Bakugo is what it is (Deku idolized the young Kacchan that could do anything and had a super powerful Quirk, Kacchan saw It doesn’t materially change anything, because all of Dekus issues stem from growing up without a quirk, not being born quirkless. And since we’re talking about the possibility of having his quirk stolen at an early age, those are different scenarios. I’m not saying I totally buy the stolen quirk scenario, but I don’t think the argument you’re making here works. Whether it’s natural quirklessness or having it stolen, Dekus problem is just not having a quirk his whole life. It doesn’t matter why he doesn’t have a quirk.
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Libra posted:Right, but most characters in the spotlight are people with good quirks suitable for being a hero/villain, while I get the impression that the "average" quirk is something like the ability to manipulate gravy or the power to insert a USB device the right side up every time or possibly the power to resemble a walrus. somewhere out there is a boy who can control the speed at which lobsters die
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Feb 11, 2020 22:16
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Libra posted:Right, but most characters in the spotlight are people with good quirks suitable for being a hero/villain, while I get the impression that the "average" quirk is something like the ability to manipulate gravy or the power to insert a USB device the right side up every time or possibly the power to resemble a walrus. We've seen plenty of "average" Quirks, so we don't need hypothetical examples. Like that guy at the very start who's Quirk was having fleshy spikes(??) on the side of his head. Or All Might's science buddy David Shield and his amazing Quirk of having fingers that are really bendy. They might as well be Quirkless for all the difference it wouldn't really make, but they're still ostensibly considered to be better regardless.
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Feb 11, 2020 22:18
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I should really read more of MHA: Smash https://twitter.com/CDCubed/status/1224789828421570560
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Larryb posted:Hell, one of the main characters in Vigilantes is technically quirkless but he trained his body so much that it doesn’t really matter much as far as his combat ability is concerned. True, but he used to have a Quirk and lost it somehow.
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Libra posted:Right, but most characters in the spotlight are people with good quirks suitable for being a hero/villain, while I get the impression that the "average" quirk is something like the ability to manipulate gravy or the power to insert a USB device the right side up every time or possibly the power to resemble a walrus. I was under the impression that most Quirks were capable of being powerful, it's that just most people didn't really train them. Mirio's quirk was unremarkable at first and he turned it into Phantom Menace. Same for Suneater, at first he could only make tiny body parts sprout.
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JahRoo posted:It doesn’t materially change anything, because all of Dekus issues stem from growing up without a quirk, not being born quirkless. And since we’re talking about the possibility of having his quirk stolen at an early age, those are different scenarios. I still think it changes some of the themes behind Deku's arc and also would undercut the scene in the first episode where he's asking his mom if he can still be a hero. Like, sure, it doesn't change the letter of the story, but it does absolutely change the spirit It'd be a much better reveal for Horikoshi's original concept where Deku remains quirkless but ends up with a bunch of gadgets or whatever.
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Feb 12, 2020 00:02
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Even if Deku had a Quirk that was stolen, it's not like he's getting it back.
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Feb 12, 2020 00:15
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I don't see how Deku having powers stolen from him undermines any of his personal arc. The stuff with him not having a quirk is still him not having a quirk. He still had his dreams crushed and pushed on to be heroically idealistic despite no quirk. That it was because someone took it away from him just makes Doctor War Crimes have a more personal, intimate bit of antagonism towards our Protagonist. I also don't see the point of bringing back the same doctor who checked out Deku as a super bad guy just for...coincidence's sake. That's a pretty deep thread to not tug. And I'm sure, if it does turn out to be a stolen quirk, Deku will have some angst about it but will come to realize that it was a blessing in disguise because it let him grow into the person he is now, the successor of All Might, when he might not have before. The League of Evil hoisted by their own petard. A cool interpretation of the potential fire breathing + telekinesis would just be thermokinesis. Control of temperatures. Deku could've been what Endeavor committed horrible domestic violence for all along!
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Feb 12, 2020 00:31
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I'm imagining an endgame scenario where Deku gives OfA to whoever, and has to save the day quirkless while the whoever else (probably Bakugou) handles some super huge crisis throughout the city. There's gotta be a moment where quirkless Deku has to save the day on his own.
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Feb 12, 2020 01:01
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Hunt11 posted:I could be down for the whole Deku having a quirk but it just being a low key useful one that was stolen for versatility. It’s the same quirk Deku’s mom has, so AfO has an easier time picking up his dropped keys and remotes that are too far out of reach.
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Feb 12, 2020 01:23
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Here's one angle they could do to give that twist material value. What if EVERYBODY born quirkless in the latest generation was born with powers and had them stolen? It shows how much power AfO and the Doctor has over the world, and means that we could be closer to Singularity than we thought.
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Feb 12, 2020 01:24
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Two Tone Shoes posted:I also don't see the point of bringing back the same doctor who checked out Deku as a super bad guy just for...coincidence's sake. That's a pretty deep thread to not tug. It's not a coincidence. Of course Deku goes to the same doctor as his dad.
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Feb 12, 2020 01:44
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Did anyone ever get around to writing that super-obvious "Deku has pyrokinesis" fanfiction?
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PMush Perfect posted:Did anyone ever get around to writing that super-obvious "Deku has pyrokinesis" fanfiction? from what i understand of mha fanfiction there are stories giving that kid literally every power under the sun, i'm sure you can find something if you look
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Feb 12, 2020 01:52
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Let me rephrase. Did anyone ever write good "Deku has pyrokinesis" fanfiction?
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Feb 12, 2020 01:53
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ah, well, there's the rub, isn't it
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Feb 12, 2020 01:54
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I have seen cute fan art about the idea but that is it.
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Feb 12, 2020 01:56
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I read a pretty good one where he still has a bunch of issues and his friendship with Bakugo is still terrible. The basic gist is that he has to slingshot fire around his body for it to really do anything, and he can’t produce his own so for their entire life since this quirk was discovered Bakugo still thinks he’s a weak leech who needs Bakugo to do anything. Because Bakugo can produce flames for Izuku to manipulate see. Izuku ends up in general studies because he’s got no combat capabilities without a source of fire and the source he brings is just not enough to make the grade even with some robot kills under his belt. He then proceeds to go absolutely off the rails in the Sports Festival, throwing the giant flames around the edges of the arena during the fighting bit.
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Deku has the ability to draw fire to himself, but he doesn't have any fire immunity so he just sets himself on fire like that Human Torch parody from Venture Bros.
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