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Wow really, just three hours to paint something that big and that well?? I must be painting super slow then lol, though I guess that’s where experience comes in.
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Experience and deciding ahead of time exactly what you want to do with the model. If it's just going to be used on the table top to play, I don't usually put that much effort into a model. Although i'll go through display level quality on 1 or 2 models in a box either way, but then dial it back for the rest. But I have a few models in my collection that I intended from the start to be on display.
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Feb 11, 2020 20:02
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A bit of a dump, since I finished the thread and like it when everyone else posts pics. First thing I painted was these Eschers in summer 2018:   Next summer I did the skellie warband (I see I wasn’t the only person to choose yellow for them):   ~*my wife*~ bought me the Ambots for Xmas because she likes robots     Then I did the bases for the Stockbrokers (aka Stormsire’s Warband). I loved the bases, but I have no idea what the hell to do with the minis themselves, they’re so bland I think of them as having names like Chip …)  Then a mummy from the BB Champions of Death box:   
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Feb 11, 2020 20:28
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Wow really, just three hours to paint something that big and that well?? I must be painting super slow then lol, though I guess that’s where experience comes in. A gently caress ton of it is figuring out where the effort matters, the other huge bit is handling mistakes, which ties into figuring out how to minimize time being 'wasted'. For example on these fellas I only 'highlight' the edges of the main panels and everything is zenithal highlights only which means that only the the stuff from visible from ~45 degrees up metters. I also only spent like 5 minutes correcting errors, most can be hidden by highlights or just being amongst the rest of the model. Plus, I have a ton of practice at this point, and like anything else you get faster with practice.
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Yeah, that totally makes sense. So there's two things I'm looking to get to upgrade my painting setup. First is a better set of brushes. Right now I'm using the cheap brushes that came from the stater Reaper sets. I'd like to get better brushes, but not super good real hair brushes or anything like that. I don't think I'm ready for that yet Just "good synthetic brushes". Anything on Amazon I should look for? Second is a wet palette. Up until now I've just been using a dry plastic dish for my palette, and I've definitely notice some limitations from that especially from paints drying up before I'm doing using them. So a wet palette would be cool I think, plus I see everyone else using them! Now I know you CAN make wet palettes yourself, but if you WERE willing to spend a little money is it worth buying one. Like I saw this one on Amazon for instance, seems OK? https://www.amazon.com/Sta-Wet-Pale...ts%2C169&sr=1-2
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Feb 12, 2020 03:27
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Yeah, that totally makes sense. Brushes: https://www.rosemaryandco.com/oil-brushes/pure-kolinsky-sable-oils/pure-kolinsky-pointed Just make the upgrade. The price is reasonable enough that there's no reason not to. Wet palette: https://www.goonhammer.com/how-to-paint-everything-how-to-make-a-simple-wet-palette/
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Feb 12, 2020 03:33
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From all reports, it's a solid palette. I know several people who swear by it, and claim that paint will remain fresh for weeks or months afterwards. And y'know, for $10 you're not throwing a bunch of money away on it.
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Feb 12, 2020 03:34
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Yeah, that totally makes sense. I use one and it is fine, other peoples opinions will very. For brushes, I dont have amazing advice but I have not had good experiences with any synthetic brushes, they just don't seem to live very long but YMMV. A nice sable brush is not actually that expensive, I have a raphael 8404 that was ~$20 CAD and it has lasted me 6 month so far.
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What is the proper way to clean a brush like that? I've mostly used cheap brushes and clean with warm water and some hand soap. Would it be the same with a sable brush?
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Werix posted:What is the proper way to clean a brush like that? I've mostly used cheap brushes and clean with warm water and some hand soap. Would it be the same with a sable brush? https://www.dickblick.com/items/05702-1004/
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Feb 12, 2020 04:54
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JackMann posted:Finished up the land speeder for my Iron Hands.
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Hmm OK, maybe I will try those sable brushes. Thanks for the recommendations! Actually let me ask, are there good Sable brushes to get off Amazon? The ones linked above from Rosemary And Co. could take almost a month to ship to me. Heroic Yoshimitsu fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Feb 12, 2020 |
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Hmm OK, maybe I will try those sable brushes. Thanks for the recommendations! Windsor & Newton brand https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013E68SU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Da Vinci https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PH66V0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 both are excellent brushes.
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Brush-wise I'm gonna plug a recommendation for Rosemary and Co. if you have to order online. Really nice brushes and they get packed by hand so they show up in perfect shape. I love Da Vinci and Raphael brushes if I can buy them in person but I ordered 2 off of Amazon and the first was either a fake or had the world's shittiest sable and the second one was packed loose in a box with zero protection of any kind (including one of those plastic ferrule caps) and was completely unusable because it spent 2 days getting tossed around and having its bristles slammed into cardboard. Gave up on buying brushes on Amazon after that.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Hmm OK, maybe I will try those sable brushes. Thanks for the recommendations! I would be very careful about ordering brushes, especially Windsor and newton from amazon, there are a lot of janky sellers, I’ve heard about counterfeit brushes being sold and once I got a brush that was hosed up with bent bristles during delivery. Ideally buy your fancy brushes from an art supply store in person so you can inspect the tip with your own eyes, if that’s not possible buy directly from the manufacturer, or from a reputable online art supply store.
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Feb 12, 2020 07:43
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I'll second the Rosemary recommendation. Need to get around to buying two new 33's and maybe a 93 at some point. Element Games have their own line of brushes as well that might be good: https://elementgames.co.uk/paints-hobby-and-scenery/brushes/element-games-kolinsky-brush-bundle Although the price point difference between them and Rosemary are negligible as I discovered earlier. Or if you want to splurge a little, the Artis Opus set: https://elementgames.co.uk/paints-hobby-and-scenery/brushes/artis-opus-brush-set
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Feb 12, 2020 11:22
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The Rosemary & Co. are the best brushes you can buy, their 33 range is far superior to the Winsor series 7 if you’re buying 0,1 and 2’s. That they’re a third of the price is just a bonus. They also make a great shiraz rigger, if you paint a lot if straight lines.
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Feb 12, 2020 11:26
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Yeah, the Rosemary brushes ARE way cheaper than other sable brushes that I've seen. They're probably worth the wait. I think I'd get a 3/0, 0, 1 and 2 which are basically the brush sizes I use right now.
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Feb 12, 2020 13:54
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I've seen a lot of painters who paint their bases first and then glue the miniature to it. Is that secure? Wouldn't the model only be attached to the paint and thus risk coming off easier than if the model was glued directly to the plastic/resin, or is it fine?
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Feb 12, 2020 14:31
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I bought some Raphael brushes from https://www.jacksonsart.com/en-us/ which were cheapish ($20 for a 0, 1, and 4/0) but it took a couple of weeks to get to the US. If you're in the UK they're probably a good choice. Although my #0 brush is forking already but I'm an oaf so that's probably my fault.
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Fake James posted:I've seen a lot of painters who paint their bases first and then glue the miniature to it. Is that secure? Wouldn't the model only be attached to the paint and thus risk coming off easier than if the model was glued directly to the plastic/resin, or is it fine? pinning the model helps ensure a good bond if you're skeptical about just supergluing your spaceperson to a painted base https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRItrHxuLH4
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Feb 12, 2020 15:48
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Fake James posted:I've seen a lot of painters who paint their bases first and then glue the miniature to it. Is that secure? Wouldn't the model only be attached to the paint and thus risk coming off easier than if the model was glued directly to the plastic/resin, or is it fine? Anecdotally, this is fine and I haven't had a model fall off the base yet.
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Feb 12, 2020 16:15
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I have yet to run into any issues with gluing it on after doing the base. But then I also started using a cork for basing material so hard to not do that afterwards.
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Feb 12, 2020 16:21
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5thing or whatever getting Rosemary brushes. I order them direct to America, and it only takes a week. Get 4 or 5 Series 33s in whatever size and maybe a few others. Marvelous quality. I have been using a Series 303 (I believe) to do my metals and it has been nice.
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Feb 12, 2020 16:23
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The only recommendation I can give is to not buy brushes on Amazon. I've gotten fakes from there of the well known and trusted brands.
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Feb 12, 2020 16:30
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Wow, I just tried Vallejo's Yellow Ink for the first time and my god the coverage is nuts compared to the regular paint. Prime white, apply ink and you've got a perfect bright yellow in just one thin layer. Need to play with undershadowing now to make this look better, but it's seriously night and day. Only disappointment is that found out about this just three models before finishing my 2000 points worth of Ironjawz army 
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I bought my first Rosemary and Co. brushes recently and was pretty disappointed. One came with the plastic cap put on such that it was bending back a bunch of bristles which basically wrecked the brush. The others were okay but don't hold a point particularly well, even compared to some of my old beat-up Winsor & Newtons. They were much cheaper to be fair, but I think I'll stick with W&N in future. As for fakes on Amazon I've never had the issue, just always make sure you're buying direct from Amazon and not a 3rd-party that's fulfilled by Amazon.
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Fake James posted:I've seen a lot of painters who paint their bases first and then glue the miniature to it. Is that secure? Wouldn't the model only be attached to the paint and thus risk coming off easier than if the model was glued directly to the plastic/resin, or is it fine? I pin mine, which is easy since when I paint minis I already drill a hole into one foot and run a paperclip up into it to mount it on a cork base, so pinning is just a matter of snipping that paperclip down to a shorter length and drilling a hole in the base.
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I’m not a super fan of Rosemary brushes, I find the bristles a bit too long. They’re certainly not bad quality, they just don’t “fit” me. My go-to now are Element Games 1 and 0 sizes (regiment and character) and W&N No.2, those account for 95% of my painting.
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Fake James posted:I've seen a lot of painters who paint their bases first and then glue the miniature to it. Is that secure? Wouldn't the model only be attached to the paint and thus risk coming off easier than if the model was glued directly to the plastic/resin, or is it fine? I've recently mainly been painting models with tiny wee ankles that I dont want to risk trying to pin the feet, and if I'm gluing to a base I've pre painted (which I only really do if its a scenic resin base, if I'm adding sand or flock or static grass or whatever myself I almost never do that until the model is painted and glued) I take a knife/pointed sculpting tool/safety pin/needle file/whatever and scrape a little paint away from where each of the models feet is going to be so that the glue gets direct surface to surface contact. I honestly dont know how much of a difference it makes, other people say that gluing over the paint is fine, but, like you, I'm dubious of how strong gluing to the paint would be and scraping a tiny bit of the paint off only takes a few seconds and it makes me happier knowing itsdirectly glued resin to plastic. Edit to add: Obviously if the model hasnt got tiny ballet dancer ankles then pinning is the way to go for maximum security.
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I've had pretty good luck with https://www.jacksonsart.com for brushes. I think Miniac has a discount code for first time orders.
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Feb 12, 2020 19:29
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I mean, my little brother bought me two 0's and a 1 from Rosemary and Co for Christmas 2018, and to date I still have one of the 0's that I've never used, because the first one hasn't given up on me yet. Sure I don't paint every day, but they have been used for a good while, and still soap right up into a nice point at the end of the painting session.
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Feb 12, 2020 19:55
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What do you guys use for cleaning your brushes after each session? I use the Masters Brush Cleaner and Preserver that a lot of people recommend, but it feels like overhype that it actually does any good for your brushes.
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Feb 12, 2020 21:00
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My brush preference is Raphael (from an art store like dickblick, not amazon) if I want to splurge and Rosemary if I want something good quality but cheaper. I've had terrible luck with W&Ns, from them arriving in poor condition to crapping out in a month even if they initially looked good. Raphaels are nicer than Rosemary in my opinion, but they're also like 3 times as expensive. Fair enough since they're considerably larger.Fake James posted:I've seen a lot of painters who paint their bases first and then glue the miniature to it. Is that secure? Wouldn't the model only be attached to the paint and thus risk coming off easier than if the model was glued directly to the plastic/resin, or is it fine? Every time I've done this the miniature has come off of the base in short order. I always pin when painting the base separately.
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I said come in! posted:What do you guys use for cleaning your brushes after each session? I use the Masters Brush Cleaner and Preserver that a lot of people recommend, but it feels like overhype that it actually does any good for your brushes. I mean, it cleans paint out of your brush. If you leave paint in there, it frays and you need to buy a new brush to get something that'll keep a point. Pretty much what it says on the jar. What in particular is disappointing you?
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I said come in! posted:What do you guys use for cleaning your brushes after each session? I use the Masters Brush Cleaner and Preserver that a lot of people recommend, but it feels like overhype that it actually does any good for your brushes. Yeah it doesn't really do anything other soap wouldn't. But washing your brushes in soap is good. I like Master's but use whatever.
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Has anyone actually used the Artis Opus brushes? I can get them locally from Noble Knight, so I was thinking of picking up a couple of Series S.
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Funzo posted:Has anyone actually used the Artis Opus brushes? I can get them locally from Noble Knight, so I was thinking of picking up a couple of Series S. I have a set and like them a whole lot, although I did the kickstarter. New retail they seem super pricey. But they are nice. I don't think they're waaaaay better or anything, but definitely high quality.
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Funzo posted:Has anyone actually used the Artis Opus brushes? I can get them locally from Noble Knight, so I was thinking of picking up a couple of Series S. I have no credible source to make this claim, but I've always just assumed they were more expensive rebranded brushes.
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grassy gnoll posted:I mean, it cleans paint out of your brush. If you leave paint in there, it frays and you need to buy a new brush to get something that'll keep a point. Pretty much what it says on the jar. I mean it doesn't seem to do any better with helping your brush keep a point, or getting paint out, that soap or any other cleaning method won't do as well.
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