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James Baud posted:It's also going to be very interesting to see what happens on the young radical side in the US when Sanders inevitably loses, whether in November or much sooner. If this happens it will no doubt kill the majority of the momentum of the re-nascent leftist movement there, but luckily they do have outspoken elected officials like AOC, Tlaib and Omar to carry the torch. One thing is certain - ending Sanders’ chances through ratfuckery will engender a lasting hatred for the Democratic Party that they may regret for a generation. Further to vyelkin’s point, the reason I’m incredibly invested in Sanders winning this time around is the potential for it to influence our politics at home by lessening the blinkered and stagnant look at politics we have (i.e. an increasing rightward perspective). a primate has issued a correction as of 17:36 on Feb 13, 2020 |
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If Bernie wins I would genuinely hope it encourages a serious leftist movement at home, but the pessimist in me sees a moment where it just causes the political boulders to just huff and go "Americans! We're sticking to Canadian Values(tm)" and stagnate forever into hell.
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Actually it will just be a bunch of self congratulatory photo ops of justin and Bernie with justin using Bernie as a prop to show how progressive he is. And nothing at all will change.
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linoleum floors posted:Actually it will just be a bunch of self congratulatory photo ops of justin and Bernie with justin using Bernie as a prop to show how progressive he is. And nothing at all will change. I think we could see some meaningful change if Bernie was successful in passing some of his major reforms. So much of Canadian identity is tied up in being "America but slightly less bad" and if suddenly America got M4A including dental and pharmacare and passed a GND that started achieving full employment and rapidly decarbonizing and people's student loans got forgiven while Canadians still graduated with five figures of debt, I think that would seriously shake that part of Canadian national identity and force our elites to get on board so that we could keep pretending we were better than them otoh if all that transformative stuff got stymied in the Senate then yeah I would expect nothing to change except Trudeau photo ops to show how progressive our woke PM is
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the one good effect of a bernie presidency is that he would immediately tear up CUMSA and renegotiate NAFTA to include climate action and workers rights
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DariusLikewise posted:im going to simplify a lot but i feel like the current leftist political movement in the states is largely the result of all the kids that lived through 9/11 and iraq watching their government gently caress everything up as much as possible for 20 years and now they are all active voters who can all come together on common goals I think it was more 2008 and pretty much everyone who got into the job market around then got completely left behind. I imagine what's most likely going to happen is that people will try to organize an insurgency within the NDP to push it further left again. Easier to try to re-appropriate a party's infrastructure that already exists than try to build something completely new -- even if the latter is the better option.
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Its that time posted:Quebec's political landscape is really different than the rest of Canada, there is a party representing pretty much anything on the political spectrum (except a left leaning federalist party, which is lol). But, we're going through a political cycle with pretty heavy right wing policies and parties having the upper hand on our national level. I don't know, it seems to me mroe like we all have terrible Neo-liberal parties using the Separation question as a way to fake having actual differences. I vote Quebec Solidaire but they don't look ready to win a government anytime soon, more's the pity. Edit: It's also hard to overstate how incredibly corrupt our governments have been.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I don't know, it seems to me mroe like we all have terrible Neo-liberal parties using the Separation question as a way to fake having actual differences. Agreed. But the media here does not reek of neolib vomit the same way we see in America or the ROC, maybe because our media ecosystem is so much more smaller. And, on the other hand, we actually have an idea of how much our governments are corrupt and I'm not sure if the RoC and USA are just sleeping on it or not. They could both be clean and we're really the rotten apple, I really don't know. No doubt we were very much so under Charest. And yeah, neolibs making GBS threads on us, but we're still better off as of now on some metrics. We could argue about how Quebec is a different society by the social policies we got and the opinions on them. Still, we got stuff the rest of North America doesn't. Our local neolibs are working hard to destroy what we have and flush everything down the free market drain and do use every opportunities to test their agenda. Our gov is pushing that way hard, very hard right now. I do vote QS too, pretty much the only real leftist choice that happens to be separatist too. PQ swings depending on the leader, can and did go both way, there's still some of the ''Barbus de l'UQAM'' that are pushing leftist narrative inside the party. I seriously don't know what you can do if you're a left leaning federalist. Kinda like that, deep down, Canada is hard coded to be right leaning. And, just to speak of now, the whole nationalist question (excluding separation, just nationality) has been a landmark of Quebec's public politics since the start of the 20th century and is used as a tool or mean to promote whatever agenda you can have. We're just in another chapter that reminds me of Duplessis. His biography was written was Conrad Black just to make this lol. But yeah, we could wonder if the left in Quebec is dying or if everything is sightly more left leaning for real or whatever else. Nationalism tends to blur the lines. We will see next election... let's just hope our gov doesnt wreck everything like they're doing right now with education.
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We have a radical left It's our native peoples and they're needing our help right now standing up to every neolib branch of our government stacking up against them All day in the news I'm just reading all the "gosh it's shutting down the country that these uppity natives are blocking our one and only rail line. You have to understand we HAD to go bust heads" stories. "Respect rule of law which only respects capital"
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Noblesse Obliged posted:We have a radical left It honestly loving rules that after all these years they finally found something that IMMEDIATELY has financial(and therefore important) results. They better not stop, it's the only thing keeping them in the news after the pipeline got rammed through. And it's a loving train track, it can get blocked anywhere, it is financially impossible to get the entire thing protected by cops Shutting down the entire country's rail lines. Beautiful. EDIT: cynic in me says they're gonna pass legislation that just says trains dont have to stop for poo poo anymore
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bring back old gbs posted:It honestly loving rules that after all these years they finally found something that IMMEDIATELY has financial(and therefore important) results. They better not stop, it's the only thing keeping them in the news after the pipeline got rammed through. And it's a loving train track, it can get blocked anywhere, it is financially impossible to get the entire thing protected by cops Storms liter trees all over train tracks all the time, watch a train derail itself to own the natives.
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Thanks to strategic voter's last election the police will have to take a minute before beating the protesters to remind all of us that they are on the ancestral lands of the protesters
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Noblesse Obliged posted:Thanks to strategic voter's last election the police will have to take a minute before beating the protesters to remind all of us that they are on the ancestral lands of the protesters in canada this is considered progress
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A black MRAP with a punisher decal rolls up to a protest in rural Ontario. a huge sci-fi apparatus of speakers points menacingly at the crowd. officer LaRiviere of the RCMP picks up the microphone within his ballistic cockpit and flips a bank of switches. he clears his throat, causing a 220 decibel screech to blast through the crowd. two elders fall over and a child experiences bowel release. this level of volume causes physical pain to unshielded ears. “PER C-69, WE ARE LEGALLY MANDATED TO DECLARE THAT YOUR NON-LICENSED PROTEST IS TAKING PLACE ON UNCEEDED ALGONQUIN TERRITORY. PLEASE DISPERSE WITHIN FIVE MINUTES OR WE WILL TURN THE VOLUME TO PURÉE. EN ACCORDANCE AVEC LE LOI C-69...”
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THE MINISTER OF MIDDLE CLASS PROSPERITY HAS DEMANDED THAT ALL THOSE WORKING HARD TO JOIN THE MIDDLE CLASS SHALL IMMEDIATELY CEASE AND DESIST THEIR PROTESTS OR FACE THE PENALTY OF BEING BEATEN MERCILESSLY AT THE HANDS OF THE MINISTER OF DOOM
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Its that time posted:Agreed. But the media here does not reek of neolib vomit the same way we see in America or the ROC, maybe because our media ecosystem is so much more smaller. And, on the other hand, we actually have an idea of how much our governments are corrupt and I'm not sure if the RoC and USA are just sleeping on it or not. They could both be clean and we're really the rotten apple, I really don't know. No doubt we were very much so under Charest. Never read Anglophone Quebec Media, it might be the worse media I have ever seen.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:how could they tell that Jordan Peterson has brain damage? 
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poor jorp, thought of pronouns and got brain damaged
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There's a Matt Gurney article that accuses Doug Ford of being badly cucked by the Tyendinega Mohawks on the National Post right now. Its racist and awful and fails to mention both the Ipperwash and Oka crises but gosh darn if it isn't refreshing to read someone on the right not blame Trudeau for a change....
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priznat posted:poor jorp, thought of pronouns and got brain damaged The gay agenda claims another victim!
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Another Bill posted:There's a Matt Gurney article that accuses Doug Ford of being badly cucked by the Tyendinega Mohawks on the National Post right now. Its racist and awful and fails to mention both the Ipperwash and Oka crises but gosh darn if it isn't refreshing to read someone on the right not blame Trudeau for a change.... matt gurney sucks poo poo
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DariusLikewise posted:matt gurney sucks poo poo quote:There’s been a lot of turnover of late in Ford’s office — including the departure of a competent director of communications. Government officials are also distracted by an increasingly disruptive labour stoppage by its teachers’ unions, and, apparently, over selfish concerns of being protested outside their hotel by angry educators at an upcoming policy conference. Perhaps that explains some of the silence and inaction. 
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Ziv Zulander posted:who’s Christie blatchford and why should I be glad she’s dead? Reporter who broke her brain covering Bernardo and Homolka's trial
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Bilirubin posted:Reporter who broke her brain covering Bernardo and Homolka's trial Also used to let Al Strachan crash on her couch
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Nine of Eight posted:A black MRAP with a punisher decal rolls up to a protest in rural Ontario. a huge sci-fi apparatus of speakers points menacingly at the crowd. hahaha perfect
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MonsieurChoc posted:Never read Anglophone Quebec Media, it might be the worse media I have ever seen.  Nick Auf der Maur thoughI moved to Montreal just after the last referendum and spent my first few years in my francophone neighbourhood learning how to say "I have no idea who the gently caress this Howard Galganov guy is or what is is going on about, I just want to buy a few bottles of Maudite" in French. OK I should probably stop my stream of consciousness thread replying now 
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Alberta Advantage slaps https://twitter.com/CalgaryPolice/status/1228445420285808640 Calgary Police do not
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Nairbo posted:Alberta Advantage slaps One of these is for a guy who is in violation of his probation lol
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Goddamn I hate Mélanie Joly. She's my representatives and she is pure liberal poo poo.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Goddamn I hate Mélanie Joly. She's the worst. An example of empty, career oriented, opportunist politician. Hearing her talk for more than two seconds may create a brain aneurysm. And in that part of Montréal, they vote Lib no matter what. I suggest eating a poutine at the Brouehaha and drinking one down to make the pain go away.
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I still feel shame about the ~one week period where I considered maybe strategically voting for Mélanie Joly in the 2013 mayoral election. Really glad I didn't!!
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