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fadam posted:Were DoD and CoD2 really that long ago? idk if it's more that the primary audience is for kids, rather that the products of the mediums lack the ability to tackle these issues with the appropriate amount of gravitas. see how often the excuse of "I just want to play games/read about cool superheroes/make robots smash into each other" comes up
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No Wave posted:Maybe they'll just make another dozen throwback sets stuffed full of eternal format staples. it seems easier.
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fadam posted:I love westerns, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a fantastical/sci-fi take on the genre other than Bone Tomahawk that I didn’t think was corny as hell. There's a game on Switch called Hard West that I Impulse bought for $1 that does a pretty good job. It's basically a Western Xcom that, without getting into spoilers, starts out as a normal western and gets a more into the occult side as you play.
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suicidesteve posted:There's a game on Switch called Hard West that I Impulse bought for $1 that does a pretty good job. It's basically a Western Xcom that, without getting into spoilers, starts out as a normal western and gets a more into the occult side as you play. just fyi, it's originally a pc game
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I frankly don't think it's possible to portray American westward expansion in a positive non-problematic way if you're already trivializing it to the degree of using it as a theme in your children's card game, and the same is true of the Spanish conquest I'm not gonna, like, write a Letter to the Editor about it but if I were making those decisions I wouldn't touch that poo poo at all
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suicidesteve posted:There's a game on Switch called Hard West that I Impulse bought for $1 that does a pretty good job. It's basically a Western Xcom that, without getting into spoilers, starts out as a normal western and gets a more into the occult side as you play. I’ll check it out! I love westerns and I love Xcom,
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Bust Rodd posted:I also just think Cowboys are lame and would be bored stiff by a plane that was all about trains and heists and dynamite A plane all about trains and dynamite sounds amazing to me, as long as it has nothing at all to do with the Wild West
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sit on my Facebook posted:I frankly don't think it's possible to portray American westward expansion in a positive non-problematic way if you're already trivializing it to the degree of using it as a theme in your children's card game, and the same is true of the Spanish conquest Do you think it’s possible to take all the cool stuff like shootouts, tavern brawls, train robberies, swearing, and make a setting that focuses on them and completely ignores the “western expansion” part? More Rio Bravo than The Searchers.
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The best westerns were all about plucky individuals fighting the evils of white men who felt they were above the law.
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For Gareth Micheal Skarka's epic kickstarter vaporware failure (going on a decade of promises that the Manuscript is Almost Done And It Will Be Out Soon) Far West, he flat out shrugged and said "this setting doesn't have an American Indian analogue." I can't say if that's a defter way of handling it than having them in there and risking doing it clumsily... but it's certainly... an approach.
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Rinkles posted:just fyi, it's originally a pc game I figured but I didn't care enough to look it up. Last time I looked a game up while I was playing it, I learned that Andrew Ryan and Atlas were voiced by the same person!
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Owlbear Camus posted:For Gareth Micheal Skarka's epic kickstarter vaporware failure (going on a decade of promises that the Manuscript is Almost Done And It Will Be Out Soon) Far West, he flat out shrugged and said "this setting doesn't have an American Indian analogue." I think it is, but it also can’t quite articulate why this approach feels way more reasonable to me than when that BioWare guy defended the lack of Gay people in Star Wars by saying they just don’t exist in universe.
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It makes me sad a lot of people won't get that joke, suicidesteve, given how good that one wasOwlbear Camus posted:For Gareth Micheal Skarka's epic kickstarter vaporware failure (going on a decade of promises that the Manuscript is Almost Done And It Will Be Out Soon) Far West, he flat out shrugged and said "this setting doesn't have an American Indian analogue." Wasn't that whole thing kinda racist looking to begin with? I can't remember but it's been years since I remember reading people mock that one.
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Spiderdrake posted:Why would people even still follow that thing? What does that guy even do? I realize this was rhetorical but some people are mad companies like Morphideus and FFG are still giving him writing gigs, sometimes under a pseudonym or leaving him off the credits entirely to avoid the backlash, while he basically ran off with 2.5 racist hot dog men worth of kickstarter money and breadcrumbs the grift with "oh man it's all typed up and in layout, any day now" or "i gotta rework some chapters but guys I am going through some HEAVY but nonspecific personal issues" every 6-12 months. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Feb 14, 2020 |
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fadam posted:Do you think it’s possible to take all the cool stuff like shootouts, tavern brawls, train robberies, swearing, and make a setting that focuses on them and completely ignores the “western expansion” part? More Rio Bravo than The Searchers. I could see them going in that direction if they ever do a full set based on Vryn, Jace's home plane. You've got a core nation of civilized elites and a bunch of outlying territory full of malcontent rebels, but rather than expansionist frontier outposts it's more like remnants of a crumbling ancient empire. Whatever the "mage ring network" is seems like something they could turn into an opportunity for heists. (Which I guess is space they also explored with the aether distribution hubs in Kaladesh.)
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drat I definitely thought a Vryn was a guy who Jace was a prodigy of lol.
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Owlbear Camus posted:2.5 racist hot dog men worth of kickstarter money we're measuring money in terms of Hulk Hogans?
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Spiderdrake posted:The Eldrazi were so loving oversaturated and the idea of doing them, or even just Zendikar again, when your last reference to New Phyrexia is an email from Eslpeth to Koth that just has multiple praetors dying as a footnote is astounding. There was a reference to them in the "story" of Theros. Ashiok learns about them while he's loving with Elspeth and planeswalks away to find them.
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Gimme a Heist Film Plane
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Owlbear Camus posted:I realize this was rhetorical but some people are mad companies like Morphideus and FFG are still giving him writing gigs, sometimes under a pseudonym or leaving him off the credits entirely to avoid the backlash, while he basically ran off with 2.5 racist hot dog men worth of kickstarter money and breadcrumbs the grift with "oh man it's all typed up and in layout, any day now" or "i gotta rework some chapters but guys I am going through some HEAVY but nonspecific personal issues" every 6-12 months. I remember people posting his traced art and excerpts, it wasn't very good. Like I understand people are angry he stole money from them, but it seems like you'd just ... Stop being interested. Tulul posted:There was a reference to them in the "story" of Theros. Ashiok learns about them while he's loving with Elspeth and planeswalks away to find them. You'll forgive me for forgetting Theros' story.
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fadam posted:I think it is, but it also can’t quite articulate why this approach feels way more reasonable to me than when that BioWare guy defended the lack of Gay people in Star Wars by saying they just don’t exist in universe. terra nullius is a lot more appealing than something that is directly contradicted by observed reality (even if terra nullius can also be easily contradicted by observed reality) magic's approach is basically 'race doesn't exist' (and to a lesser extent 'gender doesn't exist') which has all the upsides of that approach but without the downside of not having nonwhite characters at all
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Jabor posted:The best westerns were all about plucky individuals fighting the evils of white men who felt they were above the law. The best ones are, but the genre has a ton of gross "heroic white frontiersman fights the Savage horde of red injuns" stories and the inherent issues of colonialism and manifest destiny are hard to get away from when it's a defining part of the setting.
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Owlbear Camus posted:For Gareth Micheal Skarka's epic kickstarter vaporware failure (going on a decade of promises that the Manuscript is Almost Done And It Will Be Out Soon) Far West, he flat out shrugged and said "this setting doesn't have an American Indian analogue." Was that the same game that had the not-native-american-universe where people were X% less likely of being actual sapient people than a proper civilized universe? Or am I confusing terrible racist tradgames again?
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fadam posted:drat I definitely thought a Vryn was a guy who Jace was a prodigy of lol. 
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TheKingofSprings posted:Gimme a Heist Film Plane Also, for the record, the role of American Indians in the Western genre is 1) 100% necessary and 2) 100% racist. It's not really possible to portray what they're supposed to represent in a way that isn't deeply offensive.
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worlds chat: strasky and pvddr are all in on the 'lose to agonising remorse' game plan of having a single dream trawler and a bunch of card draw to find it, while thoralf is on the 'lose to embercleave' game plan of running 4 dream trawler
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I’ve been absolutely curbstomping U/W with my Simic Ramp deck all day, Dream Trawler does nothing to me in that matchup.
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Kurieg posted:Was that the same game that had the not-native-american-universe where people were X% less likely of being actual sapient people than a proper civilized universe? Or am I confusing terrible racist tradgames again? No, that's the Strange, Bruce Cordell's game for Monte Cook Games that's like but not the same as Numenera.
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fadam posted:I didn’t get very far in it but RDR2 was well received and managed to sell a buttload of copies without causing any controversy. Red Dead Redemption 2 - Annoying Feminist Fed To Alligator 2,118,038 views
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Eej posted:Red Dead Redemption 2 - Annoying Feminist Fed To Alligator
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Bust Rodd posted:curbstomping No.
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Toshimo posted:No. I'm so sorry you had to hear that. Are you ok? PM me if you need someone to talk to.
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Gimme cowboy goblins, pinkerton elves and reprint Untethered Express but also bring back Horsemanship Thank you I love you
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https://twitter.com/HueyJensen/status/1228393072167243776 if you want some good commentary for Worlds. edit, also lol. https://twitter.com/lsv/status/1228338288739614720
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Silhouette posted:Gimme cowboy goblins, pinkerton elves and reprint Untethered Express but also bring back Horsemanship OK gently caress my original position I am completely on board now
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I haven't opened my Secret Lair: Cats yet; I've been debating whether or not I want to bling out my Cat EDH deck with foils and promos. But an LGS owner I know tried to sell me a bunch of the singles. When he handed them to me and I saw how curved they were, I decided I'm just going to get these cards framed (maybe with a Regal Caracal playmat from Andrea Radeck) and leave it at that.
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Star Man posted:They're foils, so enjoy your expensive potato chips. if you get all of them they make a perfect circle
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