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LethalGeek posted:I simply want to stop in for a moment to thank you all for your posts so I can better understand exactly how bad Blizzard managed to screw this up in every possible way. Same, frankly; I was looking forward to this enough that even with the bad reviews I might have bought it if it weren't for you folks explaining exactly how much of a waste of money and HD space that would have been
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LethalGeek posted:I simply want to stop in for a moment to thank you all for your posts so I can better understand exactly how bad Blizzard managed to screw this up in every possible way. It wanders all over the place into various other ways blizzard does boneheaded stuff, but the death watch thread is a huge deep dive into this stuff, too if you want further reading
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# ? Feb 13, 2020 23:30 |
Ainsley McTree posted:Same, frankly; I was looking forward to this enough that even with the bad reviews I might have bought it if it weren't for you folks explaining exactly how much of a waste of money and HD space that would have been I rarely bitch about video games. Its even rarer for me to ask for refunds on stuff. This is the first game ever that I've asked to be refunded. I suffered through poo poo like Haze, Duke Nukem Forever, Resident Evil 6. All shockingly bad games but I never asked for a refund. I got 4 hours into this and noped out.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 00:06 |
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so, in some missions, heroes lack inventories. as in, they can't pick up items at all. a reason has been found:quote:This is because the modern Classic Games Team opened and saved the old campaign missions. In the Reign of Chaos, “all heroes have an inventory” was a hard-coded element of the game.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 01:22 |
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Goddamn, Blizzard. It’s like they had someone who wasn’t too good at coding build the entire toolbox to make the game. Then they fired him and hired someone else to figure out how to use the toolbox. Then that new guy had to explain how to use the toolbox to the actual team that makes the game. But he could only do it over the phone while in an elevator.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 07:14 |
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jokes posted:Goddamn, Blizzard. The real failure is that they didn't notice that heroes have no inventory in testing. Once you notice it it's not hard to fix. Khorne fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Feb 14, 2020 |
# ? Feb 14, 2020 16:08 |
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I'm getting a desync and immediate drop in about 50% of my games. Good times
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 18:20 |
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If you happen to download the game in the one language and swap to another it, as with all Blizzard games, downloads the missing localisation assets. However in doing so, it doesn't overwrite the existing ones but creates massive amounts of duplicates leading to the game to be unable to locate any maps, units or basically anything, instant crashes when you try to select a custom map and the inability to join someone else's game if it has one of the duplicate (aka every Blizzard-made) maps. Also sometimes creeps spawn but are just invisible. Not in a game mechanical way that true sight would break, but simply invisible and not engagable by any unit. It's fun.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:23 |
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For all their attempt to turn Grom Hellscream into Grommash Hellscream, he is still 'Grom Hellscream' in all his dialogue tags in the mission where you cut down the Night Elf forest lol
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 13:44 |
The Wiggly Wizard posted:I'm getting a desync and immediate drop in about 50% of my games. Good times Reinstall? If you've spent money and don't want a refund, the game is playable enough... for multi-player RTS fans. The mrmr system is a bit rough, rolled in around 2000-2200, generally either rofl someone at the same rank or I get demolished by someone above 2900 that has 200+ apm. I played someone in Spain who was the local host, I got near 2000 ping. Most fun game so far, very even, couldn't micro at all, was random NE vs NE, made a small distraction army T1 all-in and 10 ballista to snipe his base during the fight, timing worked out so he had 1 bear.
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 19:25 |
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There's one of those awkward half-Reforged cutscenes where the Infernals rain down on the final Orc RoC mission. Also, the Hellscream splice when Thrall shouts for him is incredibly awkward. But less awkward than the fact that Grom has NO lip-syncing in any of his lines.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 14:04 |
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Did they remove Furion's old model? He emerges from his barrow den on the back of a stag lmao
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 14:42 |
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Finally got around to checking the install on another computer I have (since my newer computer males a habit of refusing to run a number of older games for some reason) and it turns out I never even updated the game to the 16:9 patch However that means I can only play multiplayer by any means that doesn't require connecting to battle.net, correct?
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 17:02 |
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Horizon Burning posted:Did they remove Furion's old model? He emerges from his barrow den on the back of a stag lmao nah I remember that from the original
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 17:47 |
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Aces High posted:Finally got around to checking the install on another computer I have (since my newer computer males a habit of refusing to run a number of older games for some reason) and it turns out I never even updated the game to the 16:9 patch Yes, you have to VPN and play "LAN" to avoid bnet
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 18:11 |
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Zaphod42 posted:Yes, you have to VPN and play "LAN" to avoid bnet You don't have to VPN. You need LAN and a third party tool like WC3Connect. (I had previously heard that patch 1.27b was the last patch that supported LAN, but WC3Connect apparently says that it works with 1.30.1.10211; the link includes download urls.) Telebite fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Feb 17, 2020 |
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Telebite posted:You don't have to VPN. You need LAN and a third party tool like WC3Connect. (I had previously heard that patch 1.27b was the last patch that supported LAN, but WC3Connect apparently says that it works with 1.30.1.10211; the link includes download urls.) That's basically the same thing, what do you think a VPN is? Like yeah, you can use Hamachi. But going "you don't have to use vpn you can use vpn like tools! " just shows you don't fully understand what a VPN is. You seem to be thinking of a specific kind of VPN. You don't have to use a paid 3rd party VPN server, no, but I didn't say that.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 20:00 |
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Horizon Burning posted:Did they remove Furion's old model? Yes. He was also supposed to appear unmounted in several cutscenes as well, where he just... didn't.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 21:40 |
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https://twitter.com/UESP_net/status/1229513724110745600?s=20quote:Pictured: A tombstone in Warcraft III: Reforged, with what appears to be "gently caress OU" written on it in Daedric. They were most likely spelling out "gently caress YOU", but chose to follow the rule of the Daedric Alphabet to omit any "X" or "Y".
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 23:19 |
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:nah I remember that from the original oh really https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxkmWPzjiaU
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 00:30 |
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Zaphod42 posted:That's basically the same thing, what do you think a VPN is? I'll admit that I haven't used WC3Connect or similar tools. When a VPN is enabled (for example by using Open VPN), it takes over the entire LAN on a computer, so that all Internet traffic (web, bittorrent, anything that uses Internet) goes through the VPN when the software is running. I can't imagine that WC3Connect wants to funnel *all* of a client's Internet traffic through it, so I had the impression it worked as a proxy, identifying *only* packets from WC3 (via port or something else) and rerouting them.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 01:05 |
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Telebite posted:When a VPN is enabled (for example by using Open VPN), it takes over the entire LAN on a computer, so that all Internet traffic (web, bittorrent, anything that uses Internet) goes through the VPN when the software is running. one of my favorite things is when someone tries to be pedantic but is just blatantly incorrect
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 01:09 |
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Telebite posted:I'll admit that I haven't used WC3Connect or similar tools. When a VPN is enabled (for example by using Open VPN), it takes over the entire LAN on a computer, so that all Internet traffic (web, bittorrent, anything that uses Internet) goes through the VPN when the software is running. I can't imagine that WC3Connect wants to funnel *all* of a client's Internet traffic through it, so I had the impression it worked as a proxy, identifying *only* packets from WC3 (via port or something else) and rerouting them. That's not true of all VPNs no Like I said, you're mistaking a type of VPN for all VPNs and that's not how it works. You're thinking of a "full tunnel" VPN but they don't all have to work that way. Hamachi, WC3Connect, anything that makes your computer think its LAN'd with something it isn't physically LAN'd with is basically a VPN. There's different flavors. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Feb 18, 2020 |
# ? Feb 18, 2020 01:11 |
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So far everything I've read seems to indicate that tools like WC3Connect are proxy servers, not VPNs. I would not call a tool like Privoxy a VPN but a local proxy server, but maybe in recent years the terminology is shifting? Warcraft 3 LAN uses specific ports (6112, etc.), and again while I am not a programmer, the JAVA Code for WC3Connect looks to me like it's working like a proxy, intercepting traffic on specific ports on the local host and rerouting them to the Internet. I can see that I'm derailing the thread over what appears to be just an issue with semantics... "You call it this, I call it that" and serves no purpose to the discussion, so I'll apologize for my apparent ignorance and shut up now.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 01:41 |
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Telebite posted:So far everything I've read seems to indicate that tools like WC3Connect are proxy servers, not VPNs. I would not call a tool like Privoxy a VPN but a local proxy server, but maybe in recent years the terminology is shifting? Warcraft 3 LAN uses specific ports (6112, etc.), and again while I am not a programmer, the JAVA Code for WC3Connect looks to me like it's working like a proxy, intercepting traffic on specific ports on the local host and rerouting them to the Internet. VPN just means virtual private network. There's no requirement for it to reroute all traffic. Khorne fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Feb 18, 2020 |
# ? Feb 18, 2020 01:54 |
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it's not just me that is weirded out that they decided to change Tyrande's picture to be a close up of her face as opposed to a zoom out of her on her tiger, right? Also I hope I'm not the only person that for many years thought Tyrande was a tiger
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 06:28 |
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Aces High posted:it's not just me that is weirded out that they decided to change Tyrande's picture to be a close up of her face as opposed to a zoom out of her on her tiger, right? I kind of thought it was a good change, actually.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 10:21 |
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Aces High posted:it's not just me that is weirded out that they decided to change Tyrande's picture to be a close up of her face as opposed to a zoom out of her on her tiger, right? Malfurion marrying a tiger does sound like something he’d do.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 18:07 |
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do NOT elfshame
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 19:29 |
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porfiria posted:Malfurion marrying a tiger does sound like something he’d do. I mean I don't wanna get weird but I'm JUST SAYING that the Night Elf Druids can literally turn into animals and I feel that could have potential effects on their society
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 19:53 |
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Tunzie posted:I kind of thought it was a good change, actually. It's a lovely change. Unit portraits are supposed to clearly identify what unit is selected, but now at a glance Tyrande and Malfurion are very similar.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:38 |
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porfiria posted:Malfurion marrying a tiger does sound like something he’d do. "Hush, Tigger" doesn't have the same meme potential as "Hush, Tyrande"
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 23:31 |
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I've never seen a AAA studio ask for players to make their own .txt files for key binds before lol. E: Taiwan is also a restricted word in game creation. Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Feb 21, 2020 |
# ? Feb 21, 2020 14:30 |
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To be fair making your own custom text file for your hotkeys is from the original WC3 release and it's actually really good considering the sheer amount of units. You can even use the text file to create custom hotkeys for UMS games if you go into the map and find the unit code (at least you could in the past!).
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# ? Feb 21, 2020 18:55 |
Teriyaki Koinku posted:E: Taiwan is also a restricted word in game creation. There is a map that is trees spelling out Free Hong Kong, it can be hosted under any name.
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# ? Feb 22, 2020 16:28 |
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:There is a map that is trees spelling out Free Hong Kong, it can be hosted under any name. Truly we are all so very brave for hosting it. Xi’s days are numbered now.
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# ? Feb 22, 2020 16:40 |
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Lmfao WarCraft III's install is literally 5 times the size of Skyrim. Activision Blizzard execs get the slow-motion dull guillotine. Edit: But at least my game has a normal framerate now, even though this loving exercise was completely pointless. It is incredibly nice to play again. Tubgoat fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Feb 22, 2020 |
# ? Feb 22, 2020 16:47 |
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I posted it in death watch, but ToD has a podcast with a bunch of pros/major wc3 figures and while it was originally intended to be about wc3, since the drop of reforge it's been just non-stop making GBS threads on everything to do with how reforged was release. And not just pointless making GBS threads upon it by random uninvested idiots, eg me, but by pro players who had legitimately set things up in their lives to play the game full time and make a go of it only to have all their potential sponsors run for the hills in fear of being associated with reforged. It's insightful and pretty much all of the guests from the episode I saw were people at the tier of play that they were actively consulted by blizzard and brought in on the process so it's been interesting viewing. It's long, but if you're curious about the fallout and just wtf all went wrong, then it's worth throwing on in the background. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG79mEHDOZg They also have a laundry list of small but important features (half of which are just poo poo that broodwar reforged had, like various improvements to the spectator interface and the ability to zoom out etc.) that would've been basically trivial to add and that people have been asking for for 15 years. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Feb 22, 2020 |
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The Dreamhack Anaheim tournament is starting to look like a disaster. Moon v Thorzain has had two disconnects with Thorzain leading in both games. Good thing Blizzard removed LAN and never implemented a way to pause and reconnect... Edit: They switched to classic TFT on LAN! Frustrated fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Feb 23, 2020 |
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So it seems like I may have lost my original RoC/TFT keys, so I'm stuck riding the reforged wave if I want to replay the game. How sad am I going to be now that it's been a while since release?
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# ? Feb 24, 2020 00:10 |