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meatpimp posted:Eventually. I've got a few dozen boxes in my garage right now filled with the stuff. I'm going to wait until the installation contractor and rep are there and let them open the rest. I don't want to distribute pics until I know I'm covered. I am just curious as to what they are. Finish defects or assembly defects? Dents/chips/scratches or staple protrusion? Color issues etc. Maybe dropped in shipping. I have looked at hundreds of thousands of cabinets at this point, I notice the small stuff. So if its bad enough that a homeowner sees it and complains on the internet it makes me wonder what I would notice. KraftMaid was part of Masco, I think they were sold to a new owner a couple months ago.
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rdb posted:I am just curious as to what they are. Finish defects or assembly defects? Dents/chips/scratches or staple protrusion? Color issues etc. Maybe dropped in shipping. I have looked at hundreds of thousands of cabinets at this point, I notice the small stuff. So if its bad enough that a homeowner sees it and complains on the internet it makes me wonder what I would notice. Here's an example, the corner face of a door front. It's a void in the finish. There's a similar void on an adjacent corner. Two other corners are flawless. I cannot possibly see how this makes it passed any type of QC. I'm wondering if the sale upped the "don't give a poo poo" level? 
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Feb 13, 2020 22:30
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meatpimp posted:I cannot possibly see how this makes it passed any type of QC. 
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Feb 13, 2020 23:13
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Congrats on severing STR. Better late than never. 
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meatpimp posted:Here's an example, the corner face of a door front. It's a void in the finish. There's a similar void on an adjacent corner. Two other corners are flawless. I cannot possibly see how this makes it passed any type of QC. I'm wondering if the sale upped the "don't give a poo poo" level? It looks more like a “wormhole” in the wood. Hard to tell from the picture but I don’t think its contamination in the finish because I don’t see raw wood underneath. I see what looks like sanding burrs on the bevels so I assume thats painted solid wood and not DLV. That needs a new door, any kind of wax and topcoat repair would be visible. There is too much texture on the existing finish. Just out of curiosity is that birch? Or did they say its maple. And I am wondering the same thing. Our volume has increased, the China shutdown is what we are being told is the cause.
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Touche.  rdb posted:It looks more like a “wormhole” in the wood. Hard to tell from the picture but I don’t think its contamination in the finish because I don’t see raw wood underneath. I see what looks like sanding burrs on the bevels so I assume thats painted solid wood and not DLV. That needs a new door, any kind of wax and topcoat repair would be visible. There is too much texture on the existing finish. Just out of curiosity is that birch? Or did they say its maple. Supposed to be maple. Here's the other corner. I don't see it as a defect in the wood and more of a processing problem, since the defects are almost completely symmetrical.  And what about this on an outside corner of a vertical end cabinet? There's going to be a finish panel, but I don't think it'll cover 100%. To me, under strong lights, it looks like a lovely saw blade did the cut and there looks to be a difference in paint color because didn't put enough paint on to cover the grain of the wood on the face that was ripped.  Edit: There are other defects on this part, but this shows a couple issues directly. meatpimp fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Feb 14, 2020 |
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One thing I'm seeing in my industry, which is machines assembled from various parts made in the USA and elsewhere, is that both margins and lead times have been shaved to the bone, and at the same time talent has fled and wages have gone down. It's gotten to the point that we simply can't reject parts because vendors cut you off for rejecting poor quality instead of replacing it. We have to rework tons of parts and pieces, and our products have inconsistent finishes from machine to machine. It takes a really bad defect to scrap a part and usually even after I declare the part scrap I'm tasked with "what can we do to make it work, we have to ship." They plan and sell like we never have a defect, but the nature of the industry is that defects are almost guaranteed at this point. I have to approve a lot of product that is not up to the level of quality I would like. I hope that's not what is happening with your kitchen.
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LloydDobler posted:One thing I'm seeing in my industry, which is machines assembled from various parts made in the USA and elsewhere, is that both margins and lead times have been shaved to the bone, and at the same time talent has fled and wages have gone down. It's gotten to the point that we simply can't reject parts because vendors cut you off for rejecting poor quality instead of replacing it. We have to rework tons of parts and pieces, and our products have inconsistent finishes from machine to machine. It takes a really bad defect to scrap a part and usually even after I declare the part scrap I'm tasked with "what can we do to make it work, we have to ship." They plan and sell like we never have a defect, but the nature of the industry is that defects are almost guaranteed at this point. I have to approve a lot of product that is not up to the level of quality I would like. E/N: I'm really worried about what's in those boxes. As long as the base cabinet shells are okay, I can still move forward because right now, this is my kitchen:  Templating for the countertops is scheduled for next Thursday. Delivery is 2 weeks after that, so I'm without even a kitchen sink until March. Fair enough, we've been living with disruption since the original water incident in August. But some of this poo poo is wearing on me. I can do a lot of things. That corner pantry is new meatpimp cookin'. There were soffits above the refrigerator and on both sides of the kitchen into both walls. I cut those out and replaced them. I am a perfectionist, especially with my own loving house, so it took my brain actively stepping in to control my perfection with the bottom edge of the soffit joint... you can see a shadow there, and I could make it disappear with a couple more mud applications, but it DOESN'T MATTER, it's 100% covered by the cabinets. So I took the same rigorous approach with getting the kitchen prepped for the contractor to demo today. Cabinet doors and drawers were removed. Cabinets were unscrewed. Plumbing was cut free. It was ready to remove, as evidenced in their one hour work time today. I don't expect kudos for that, but I do expect recognition that I've gone above what's necessary to help them. And it pisses me off when it's not reciprocated. We agreed that the contractor would replace the drywall if the backsplash couldn't be removed without damage. He said today that they'd replace the drywall, but wouldn't finish it.  I said "yeah, but you'll at least tape it, right?" Nope. And, in the agreement, he agreed to put down 3/4 plywood to bring the rest of the floor up to level with the hardwood... today he said he wanted to use scrap wood from the flooring install just under the main parts of the cabinet... uh... no. There's a difference between doing something and doing something RIGHT. It needs a circular saw with its depth set to run a straight line along the hardwood, then a rectangle of 3/4" ply nailed down. That's not hard loving work.So yeah, it's bullshit like that that has me just tired. I'm tired of people not doing the loving job. I had to fire a painter a few weeks back because he kept no-showing. I was blocking whole days open to be there and he'd just not show or call... and when he WAS there, he'd bitch about how much he painted spindles and railings... no poo poo dude, that's why I HIRED you to do the loving job. Nobody likes doing it. Anyway, life calls, but it's a frustrated meatpimp right now, and I'm worried about what's in those few dozen Kraftmaid boxes...
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For me, I'm getting sick of going int to repair or replace one thing, and finding all the *other* stuff that will need to be done that was hidden until I got the first thing out. Getting where I'm afraid to do anything to the house, lest I cause a chain reaction of failure.
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Good for you, STR. I honestly figured your relationship was gonna end in one of two ways and am glad my prediction of a little STR being the more likely of the two was wrong.
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Darchangel posted:For me, I'm getting sick of going int to repair or replace one thing, and finding all the *other* stuff that will need to be done that was hidden until I got the first thing out. Getting where I'm afraid to do anything to the house, lest I cause a chain reaction of failure. Obligatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbSehcT19u0 Home and car ownership right there
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STR posted:
Grats, and jesus do not get one of those futons. I slept on one for a couple of nights and it destroyed my back. Air mattresses are 1000% more comfortable.
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happened. Started moving stuff to the new place today. Need to get a bed (probably Walmart's finest $100 futon for now, or might just do an air bed for a bit)
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Minnesota Mixup posted:Grats, and jesus do not get one of those futons. I slept on one for a couple of nights and it destroyed my back. Air mattresses are 1000% more comfortable. Seconding this. I slept on one in college if that's any indication that it's a bad idea.
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SKO was this week and I got an award from my sales leadership team for ‘rookie’ sales engineer of the year (joined the company in May, and in Q3 was fortunate to be part of the largest deal of the quarter and also had the best Q3 out of all the SEs) and in a company with ~150 SEs that feels pretty special. Edit: Also since I was on cruise control for Q4, i worked with another SE and my managers to develop a training for my fellow SEs on demoing a service that has huge revenue targets on it for this year, and trained my fellow SEs on how to do the demo. Really neat company and feels good to be working with great people, contributing, and making stupid money. Now ~fin~ fo reals Tremek fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Feb 14, 2020 |
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Feb 14, 2020 11:40
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This is neat. There is NEVER enough footage of Group B craziness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1upq4eAiA
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God I love it when it rains, makes me feel like I have twice as much power as I actually do lol
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big dong wanter posted:God I love it when it rains, makes me feel like I have twice as much power as I actually do lol Move out here and even the mildest snowstorm will convince you that your 115 horsepower is lapping the Nurburgring at 11/10ths.
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We don't do V-Day because it's the anniversary of her dad's funeral but she was so sad last night so I bought her a sweet present so she's either going to be very happy or she gonna kill me so uh, it's been real maybe?
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Move out here and even the mildest snowstorm will convince you that your 115 horsepower is lapping the Nurburgring at 11/10ths. NO way snow is God's way of saying "don't live here"
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Minnesota Mixup posted:Grats, and jesus do not get one of those futons. I slept on one for a couple of nights and it destroyed my back. Air mattresses are 1000% more comfortable. I know just how terrible they are (I had one before), it would be a temporary thing until I could get a real mattress though. Either way, sounds like air bed is the way to go. Cheaper too. big dong wanter posted:NO way snow is God's way of saying "don't live here" We got snow in central TEXAS the other day. I haven't seen snow in 5+ years. When I last saw it, it was in DFW, not Austin..
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Obligatory Yes, this exactly. edit: I literally think of this video when this stuff happens. STR posted:We got snow in central TEXAS the other day. Snowed up here, too, but basically stopped just west of Fort Worth (Weatherford) thanks to the big heat riser that is DFW making weather go around it. We did get some earlier in the year, at least. Woke up to it snowing at like 9 AM one Saturday morning. It had been 60+ degF the week before, and it was 34 degF at the time, so no chance of it hanging around, of course.
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Tremek posted:Really neat company and feels good to be working with great people, contributing, and making stupid money. Now ~fin~ fo reals Heck yes. Get paper! I was getting my tax stuff put together for filing this week and looking at my W2 I was genuinely surprised at the number. I didn't think I was anywhere near what I reached.  Rhyno posted:We don't do V-Day because it's the anniversary of her dad's funeral but she was so sad last night so I bought her a sweet present so she's either going to be very happy or she gonna kill me so uh, it's been real maybe? You will be okay. By the end of tonight you will have rug burn on your knees. While it is okay to keep the memory of her dad each year, it is also okay to make new memories. My wife and I don't do the V-Day thing for each other. My birthday was three days ago so we just kind of glob it all together. I am okay with it.
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My GF and I celebrate the anniversary of our first date on Valentine's, because it'd be two romantic occasions too close together otherwise. This year I'm getting her myself getting flown out on a work trip today. 
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I don’t believe in Hallmark holidays so I got my wife some really good bacon at the butcher.
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That's one way to pork your spouse
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Other part was he wouldn't let me drive it. Said something on the exhaust broke and it was hanging too low (looked fine to me) and he wanted to get it fixed before I drove it.....Um why didn't you tell me that before I drove half an hour to come see it? He tried to explain too much to the point I had a feeling something else was up with it that he didn't want me to know. But that's beside the point really, you can't ask a high price for an Illinois car in Florida, maybe you could get it up there but not here. One time I looked at a '72 240Z and it was some rich guy out in the sticks in a big house with a garage full of three '60 Judge GTO's. He wouldn't let me test drive the car because of "I don't want anyone not on my insurance driving any of my vehicles" and I was like so uh have you never sold a car before? So he offered to drive me around the block in it lol. I still bought it Darchangel posted:I must be, the Bahamas are islands. Now I'm gonna have Dead Milkmen stuck in my head the rest of the day. I've gotta big lizard in my back yard Can't afford to feed 'im anymore
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The missus hates Valentine's day, and even though I enjoy it, we compromise by having a very nice dinner and that's it. No gifts, cards, flowers, or anything else Gonna get a dry aged tomahawk steak tomorrow night and drink a bunch of booze
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I will spend my Valentine's night bidding on cars in Japan...the way it should be My ex wife called me at 7:30 this morning uhh the key won't go all the way in the Prius (that she still hasn't gotten out of my name) should i pour water on it. IT WAS 22 DEGREES HERE THIS MORNING. yes pour water on it dipshit. BC she can't be bothered to even go replace the battery in the fob.
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The Door Frame posted:The missus hates Valentine's day, and even though I enjoy it, we compromise by having a very nice dinner and that's it. No gifts, cards, flowers, or anything else That’s pretty much us. I sent her flowers at work (a plant, actually - I decided that sending dead flowers was silly long ago. She can keep the plant in her office and think of me, right?) and we will go out for a nice steak dinner tonight or tomorrow night. And I will refrain from gaming tonight and actually spend time with her instead.
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Elviscat posted:My GF and I celebrate the anniversary of our first date on Valentine's, because it'd be two romantic occasions too close together otherwise. Same. Elviscat posted:This year I'm getting her myself getting flown out on a work trip today. Also same, but 2 weeks in a timeshare in Orlando.
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Rhyno posted:She was very happy with her gift. So you have rug burns on your knees again? You know that's gonna give you hella callouses, right?
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my wife is off on Fridays and I was fortunately home so we made a nice lunch together homemade bucatini fennel amatriciana sauce crème brulee a decent moet it was really good! now I have to finish my work though
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Rhyno posted:I'm too old for anything like that now. 'tis a shame. The custom title that came out of that was classic.
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I'm old I got bad knees now.
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Rhyno posted:I'm old I got bad knees now. Just means you gotta stop skipping leg day. :p My trash knee is much less unhappy with me if I keep consistently working it.
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meatpimp posted:'tis a shame. The custom title that came out of that was classic. I was pretty proud of myself for that one [e] Rhyno did you save it?
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My wife got me a bottle of Clase Azul Reposado so I guess I'll be sipping that all afternoon. 
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My traditional (at this point) red velvet cupcake for my wife has yet to be discovered. Her current job has her all over the place in a huge office so getting it delivered wasn't possible. Left it and a note in her car at lunch for her to see when she gets off work.
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