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Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Spelling Mitsake posted:



So this is Cashew. Cashew had 13 teeth pulled yesterday, poor guy.

Cashew's bigger problem is that he is incredibly adverse to the antibiotic pills. As in, I got one in and he induced vomiting. Tried hiding it in his favourite food, and crushing it and mixing it into the food. No dice.

Anyone have some tricks I can try?

Did you try one of those pill sheath snack thingies? I tend to wrap pills in ham; the girls don't notice because HOLY poo poo HAM!!!

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Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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Spelling Mitsake posted:



So this is Cashew. Cashew had 13 teeth pulled yesterday, poor guy.

Cashew's bigger problem is that he is incredibly adverse to the antibiotic pills. As in, I got one in and he induced vomiting. Tried hiding it in his favourite food, and crushing it and mixing it into the food. No dice.

Anyone have some tricks I can try?

Depending on how long it was between the pill and the vomit, could it possibly be the pill causing nausea? Some antibiotics do that to me.

I will sometimes grease up a pill with hairball treatment gel or butter, to help it slide down without getting stuck (which would elicit a gag/vomit) and to present them from tasting the pill since some can be really bitter or sour.

TofuDiva
Aug 22, 2010

Playin' Possum





Muldoon

Dienes posted:

I will sometimes grease up a pill with hairball treatment gel or butter, to help it slide down without getting stuck (which would elicit a gag/vomit) and to present them from tasting the pill since some can be really bitter or sour.

I find that this works well. Another thing you can do is to chase the buttered pill down with a cc or two of gravy in a syringe. That is usually so welcome that they forget about the nasty pill. (But be sure to use a small volume so that the cat can reliably swallow it).

I make this one:

Ingredients:

2 3-ounce cans of kitten food
1 cup water
1 tablespoon flour
Dash of salt

Directions:

Put everything in a saucepan and cook over very low heat, stirring once in a while, until it thickens. Cool and finish with an immersion blender to get a very smooth texture.

The stronger/smellier the food you use, the better. (It will assault your nose but delight the cat.)

This will keep in the fridge for 2-3 days; you can freeze small portions in an ice cube tray to keep it fresh.

Spelling Mitsake
Oct 4, 2007

Clutch Cargo wishes they had Tractor.

Dienes posted:

Depending on how long it was between the pill and the vomit, could it possibly be the pill causing nausea? Some antibiotics do that to me.

Nah, even if the pills doesn't go down he instantly starts foaming and the mouth and tries to spit it all out. Butter didn't work either.

I think I'll check the pet store for those stealth things.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Seriously, why are you all making it so complicated? Dissolve the pill in some water and use a syringe to squirt it down their throat. You can even ask the vet for a syringe, they'll usually give you one for free.

LoreOfSerpents
Dec 29, 2001

No.

Spelling Mitsake posted:

Nah, even if the pills doesn't go down he instantly starts foaming and the mouth and tries to spit it all out. Butter didn't work either.

I think I'll check the pet store for those stealth things.
Foaming at the mouth is a classic sign of a very bitter/distasteful medication. Be careful about hiding bitter meds in food - some cats are super sensitive and will start avoiding food just to avoid the medication.

Personally, we just buy empty gelcaps to shove meds into. Your vet can probably sell gelcaps to you if you want to go that route. We also use a pill plunger to get the gelcap all the way to the back of the cat's mouth. It's a lifesaver for consistent daily pilling, assuming you don't have a bitey cat.

Also, whenever you forcefeed a cat a pill, unless you're using Rotten Red Rod's dissolve-in-water technique, make sure you follow it up with either water or food. With a dry pill, the cat needs to swallow something after they're pilled, so you have more confidence the pill isn't stuck somewhere and they'll just cough it up when you aren't looking. :argh:

Maxwells Demon posted:

Disco is an 11 year old cat, currently taking 15 mg of Steroids (Prednisolone) every 12 hours (or 30mg/day) to attempt to cure IBD/Liquid poops for the past 2 weeks.

Disco is now showing many symptoms of a common cold (sniffles, eye precipitation, lethargy). I took her off the steroids until symptoms calm down.

Any possibilities anything is linked or just a common cold and to wait it out?

Picture of cat to help placate the thread:

Four concerns:

1. Pred is an immunosuppressant. Any sign of illness is something to be worried about when your cat's immune system is compromised.
2. You might've already done this, but please talk to a vet before you change your cat's meds. Steroids are usually tapered off to prevent withdrawal symptoms. I don't know if that's necessary for prednisolone but I'd be worried about that.
3. That prednisolone dose seems really, really high. Have you considered getting a second opinion from a cat-only vet or a veterinary hospital with specialized staff? My IBD cat is nowhere near that dose and her case is pretty severe. If you love and trust your vet, obviously stick with them, and your case certainly might call for that kind of dose, but I'd be asking a lot of questions and researching side effects like crazy.
4. In my experience (not a vet), prednisolone alone doesn't stabilize cat bowel movements. In fact, one of the known side effects of prednisolone is diarrhea. Both of my cats who take pred got worse diarrhea after starting the pred, and they needed additional meds before their bowel movements went back to normal.

Basically, if you're looking for a single magic pill with an IBD cat, good luck. If you're interested, I can tell you what voodoo ritual works for our IBD cat, but your cat is a unique snowflake and may require a different species of chicken or different moon phase or something for its own normalcy ritual.

Lord Zedd-Repulsa
Jul 21, 2007

Devour a good book.


Personally, RRR, I'd be afraid of either the cat not swallowing it or getting some of the pill water down their trachea.

Does anyone have ideas for helping a senior cat gain weight? He's seeing the vet next week to make sure there's nothing serious going on, but we're mostly certain the weight loss happened because we didn't realize how badly our 4 year old cat was bullying him where food was concerned. We are feeding him separately now but some tips would make me feel better.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Lord Zedd-Repulsa posted:

Personally, RRR, I'd be afraid of either the cat not swallowing it or getting some of the pill water down their trachea.

Never been an issue for me. Just squirt it far enough in and they have no choice but to swallow most of it, and if a little were to get in their windpipe, the worse that would happen is they'd cough a little. Which I've never seen.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
My little buddy hangs out on our patio now.

But of course, like most things in my life it isn't gonna work out. I have a camera on my driveway and noticed that he often willfully goes to the neighbor, not the one with the shed he hangs out at but the other one who I saw him running from while stuff was thrown at him, whenever certain cars pull up to the driveway. And today someone from there walked across the driveway and picked the cat up and walked him back to their house. That clears up why he is so well behaved, he is already owned :smith:

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Good for him! To celebrate, go find another cat that needs a home and adopt it.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Leal posted:

My little buddy hangs out on our patio now.

But of course, like most things in my life it isn't gonna work out. I have a camera on my driveway and noticed that he often willfully goes to the neighbor, not the one with the shed he hangs out at but the other one who I saw him running from while stuff was thrown at him, whenever certain cars pull up to the driveway. And today someone from there walked across the driveway and picked the cat up and walked him back to their house. That clears up why he is so well behaved, he is already owned :smith:

Didn't you say you couldn't take him in anyway? "Cool neighborhood cat I get to hang out with and who has a safe home so I don't have to worry about him" seems like a better outcome than "cool stray I can't adopt."

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Also if you recognize the person who picked him up you should absolute go let them know that while they're away their cat is wandering onto at least one property where the somebody is throwing poo poo at them.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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My stupid loving cat jumped behind the hot water heater and trapped himself back there for the 3rd time after my cleaning people left the door open. Thank god one of my friends is a HVAC repair man and can get him out but he really is shockingly stupid.

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010
I don’t mean this in a rude way, perhaps the angle of the photo is deceiving, but that kitty doesn’t look very “stuck.” Could you bribe them out with some treats? My kitty goes nuts for dehydrated minnows, bunny ears or bonito flakes, I think I could bribe him out of anywhere with some of those. Either way, glad they’re safe!

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

I don’t mean this in a rude way, perhaps the angle of the photo is deceiving, but that kitty doesn’t look very “stuck.” Could you bribe them out with some treats? My kitty goes nuts for dehydrated minnows, bunny ears or bonito flakes, I think I could bribe him out of anywhere with some of those. Either way, glad they’re safe!

The perspective sucks. He's like 5 feet down there. He can jump down but there is not a way to get up.... He's already done this 2 other times.. Hence the shockingly dumb part. He gets down there and starts whining cause he can't get out. Either way he's out now. We had to take apart my HVAC system again.

mcmagic fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Feb 13, 2020

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


Hm if you attach some thick carpet or something hanging down maybe he can climb back up next time?

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Mcmagic, if it makes you feel better, my friend's cat managed to get his head stuck IN a Vietnamese toilet once, and they had to basically take it apart and get covered in shitwater and then wash a garbage kitten.

floofyscorp
Feb 12, 2007

Cats absolutely love exploring and getting stuck in very stupid places. When I was a kid both of our cats got stuck halfway up the chimney at one time or another and later one snuck into the floor cavity while my dad was repairing some wiring and was trapped under the floorboards for most of a day while we wondered where the hell the meowing was coming from. 'Curiosity killed the cat' is a saying for a reason...

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Organza Quiz posted:

Hm if you attach some thick carpet or something hanging down maybe he can climb back up next time?

I'm having a guy come over and block the hole up since i'm not handy at all myself.




floofyscorp posted:

Cats absolutely love exploring and getting stuck in very stupid places. When I was a kid both of our cats got stuck halfway up the chimney at one time or another and later one snuck into the floor cavity while my dad was repairing some wiring and was trapped under the floorboards for most of a day while we wondered where the hell the meowing was coming from. 'Curiosity killed the cat' is a saying for a reason...

It's just so very CATTE that the door is left open for a few hours by accident and he has to put his stupid self right down there ASAP.

Patrat
Feb 14, 2012

One of my cats used to constantly get stuck in the cabinets of my fitted kitchen. Everything was flush and sealed with the exception of the hole around the top of the fridge/freezer to allow ventilation. This was something around seven feet up, but the one idiot kitten would leap there from one of the work surfaces then drop down.

Of course then she had a wonderful world of narrow spaces and complete darkness to explore but absolutely no way out. I came home three days in a row to find her sealed in there and screaming from behind the floor vent. I ended up having to remove that vent so that she could get out, but then she and her sister would both go in to explore. The fluffier one would emerge turned completely grey with dust then roam around my apartment.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

NZAmoeba posted:

I'm well aware the cat I'm about to describe needs to go to the vet, unfortunately it's in a locked down city in China and the vets are all closed!

It's vomiting a lot, mostly a yellow, bile like foamy liquid. It's started to refuse its normal food, but when offered chicken it changed it's mind. It's still peeing and pooping, but today it's energy levels are down. Today it refused it's chicken, but did have some wet canned food. Any recommendations for what we can do to help it while a vet is unavailable?

Just to give a follow-up to this, eventually he puked up something that looked solid, and afterwards he's been eating tons, not vomiting, and pooping normally. The assumption is something was blocking his stomach and it's out now. Seems to be fine.

Here's a picture, he's the ginger. The other cat has a haircut because one of the other cats died recently from being unable to pass a hairball, now they're all short haired cats.

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

I'm glad kitty is ok!

owls or something
Jul 7, 2003

mcmagic posted:

I'm having a guy come over and block the hole up since i'm not handy at all myself.


It's just so very CATTE that the door is left open for a few hours by accident and he has to put his stupid self right down there ASAP.

Our laundry/utility room is a huge "no zone" since Noodles is obsessed with trying to slither inside our gas furnace.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
My cats are kind of weird because they could easily get back and check out the area next to/behind the furnace, but I don't think I've ever seen any of them go back there even though the closet also contains one of their litter boxes. Sometimes I see the girl cat sitting on top of either the litter box or near it and looking back into the space, but I don't think she goes back there.

I don't even think about the space when I'm trying to locate cats that might be hiding.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Heated cat beds were ordered and are supposedly on the way, we're going to put the heated ones where their current ones are near the balcony door (they like to bird watch) and their old ones are going to go under the bed so that they can be comfy sitting under the bed

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
I just had my cat get his first lion cut. I'm moving into my allergic girlfriend's place soon and figured this would help a lot.

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I was worried about how he would react. I had some gabopentin from my vet that I gave him. He was really upset at first but the place that handled him did a fantastic job. Once they put the sock sleeve on his head he calmed down a bunch. Then he got a bath afterward. Overall I'm very happy, and he seems fine so far too. Great investment.

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG
How allergic is she? I went to an allergy specialist and determined I was only allergic to cats, dogs and horses. They put me on a daily inhaler and told me to take some Zyrtec daily, it's definitely kept my allergy symptoms in check (particularly the allergy-induced asthma.)

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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Toilet Rascal

Protocol7 posted:

How allergic is she? I went to an allergy specialist and determined I was only allergic to cats, dogs and horses. They put me on a daily inhaler and told me to take some Zyrtec daily, it's definitely kept my allergy symptoms in check (particularly the allergy-induced asthma.)

She's pretty allergic. She will probably go on some allergy meds too but between this, an automatic vacuum every day and air purifiers in every room should help minimize the impact as much as possible.

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




Oh the indignity! :laffo:

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Boogalo posted:

Oh the indignity! :laffo:



Definitely a "I'll murder u in ur sleep, bitch" look.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



I’m tempted to get that lion haircut done now that I’ve found out what diarrhea in a Maine coon tail is like

CancerStick
Jun 3, 2011
Currently working with the vet, so not posting here in replacement of a real vet, just more for people's experience that may help me narrow it down.

Appx. 10 month old cat. Got him about 6 months ago. Has had diarrhea for pretty much the whole time. Lately pretty liquid, had times of good stool, but a lot of loosely shaped stool. Very gassy as well.

Have tried a round of antibiotics. He has been on probiotics for a couple months now. Tried two different wet food brands. Next step will probably be a more basic, probably script based, food. Vet didn't really say what steps would be after that if this didn't work probably because he was thinking one of these would work so we didn't really get that far yet.

Other than the bowel movements and gas, he is an otherwise normal cat. No vomiting. Normal activity. Very strong appetite. Has gained weight at a normal rate for his age.

Anybody else been down this road?

CancerStick fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Feb 15, 2020

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

CancerStick posted:

Currently working with the vet, so not posting here in replacement of a real vet, just more for people's experience that may help me narrow it down.

Appx. 10 month old cat. Got him about 6 months ago. Has had diarrhea for pretty much the whole time. Lately pretty liquid, had times of good stool, but a lot of loosely shaped stool. Very gassy as well.

Have tried a round of antibiotics. He has been on probiotics for a couple months now. Tried two different wet food brands. Next step will probably be a more basic, probably script based, food. Vet didn't really say what steps would be after that if this didn't work probably because he was thinking one of these would work so we didn't really get that far yet.

Other than the bowel movements and gas, he is an otherwise normal cat. No vomiting. Normal activity. Very strong appetite. Has gained weight at a normal rate for his age.

Anybody else been down this road?

I had a cat with giardia once who had hideously stinky loose shits until we got him on an anti-protozoal medication. Aside from the nasty poos, he ate normally, didn't vomit, and was affectionate and well groomed.

LoreOfSerpents
Dec 29, 2001

No.

CancerStick posted:

Currently working with the vet, so not posting here in replacement of a real vet, just more for people's experience that may help me narrow it down.

Appx. 10 month old cat. Got him about 6 months ago. Has had diarrhea for pretty much the whole time. Lately pretty liquid, had times of good stool, but a lot of loosely shaped stool. Very gassy as well.

Have tried a round of antibiotics. He has been on probiotics for a couple months now. Tried two different wet food brands. Next step will probably be a more basic, probably script based, food. Vet didn't really say what steps would be after that if this didn't work probably because he was thinking one of these would work so we didn't really get that far yet.

Other than the bowel movements and gas, he is an otherwise normal cat. No vomiting. Normal activity. Very strong appetite. Has gained weight at a normal rate for his age.

Anybody else been down this road?
Just checking, did you get a stool sample tested for parasites? If you aren't sure, ask your vet - you need to know exactly what has been ruled out by their tests. Parasites, some diseases, bacteria (some of which would be resistant to certain antibiotics) can all cause diarrhea. Not all parasites are easy to find using the same tests, so what works for ruling out roundworms may not rule out giardia.

I hope you like reading about poop, because this has tons of useful info: https://www.dvm360.com/view/diarrhea-kittens-proceedings

https://news.vet.tufts.edu/2017/05/can-probiotics-help-your-cat/ is also interesting on the topic of probiotics and when they do (and don't) seem to help.

For serious mysteries, I always suggest trying to find a really good cat-only clinic or going to a nearby veterinary university for a consultation. I'd definitely try that before going down the road of a serious elimination diet, if that's on the horizon.

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




Milly had awful stinky runny poos and peel paint off the walls gas. Went through so many different foods before narrowing it down to a fish allergy. Finding foods with zero fish that she would also eat was difficult I did get one eventually and the farts and poo cleared right up. She hairballed a lot though so switching to a prescription limited ingredient food (rabbit) worked for that too. We think she just has IBS or something. If those things don't work, there's also hydrolyzed protein diets for the most severe allergies.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
Ruby is a freak cat. Not only is she sweet, but she is aggressively so. By that, I mean she will headbutt, nip, and claw at you for attention. And if you interrupt her cleaning herself to pet her, she will often leave her tongue sticking out. Weirdest goddamn cat I've ever had.

owls or something
Jul 7, 2003

CancerStick posted:

Currently working with the vet, so not posting here in replacement of a real vet, just more for people's experience that may help me narrow it down.

Appx. 10 month old cat. Got him about 6 months ago. Has had diarrhea for pretty much the whole time. Lately pretty liquid, had times of good stool, but a lot of loosely shaped stool. Very gassy as well.

Have tried a round of antibiotics. He has been on probiotics for a couple months now. Tried two different wet food brands. Next step will probably be a more basic, probably script based, food. Vet didn't really say what steps would be after that if this didn't work probably because he was thinking one of these would work so we didn't really get that far yet.

Other than the bowel movements and gas, he is an otherwise normal cat. No vomiting. Normal activity. Very strong appetite. Has gained weight at a normal rate for his age.

Anybody else been down this road?

That really sounds like giardia or maybe some other parasite. Pretty common. Had the same issue with our Noodle when we got her. The shelter said she was allergic to tap water, lol ok idiot. Vet gave us a round of pills to kill it even though the jar of awful poop tested negative. She was fine in a week after months and months of shelter diarrhea and room clearing stink clouds.

Your vet should just give you the pills, they are harmless to try. Poor Kitty :(

owls or something fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Feb 15, 2020

CancerStick
Jun 3, 2011
Thanks. When I call on Monday I'll bring this up.

Gaj
Apr 30, 2006
Welp, my cat has had 2 short coughing fits this week. Nothing came up but they were very energetic coughs, quick with a lot of noise. Id record them but they happen so quickly by the time I get my phone shes done, . Youtubes of cat coughing leads me to believe this is hairballs. Besides dutiful brushing, anyone have any suggestions for hairball prevention treatments?

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Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!




Cat butt in cat bed

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