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tbf I think that's a question of resources as much as anything. It certainly is possible to get people onto better paths through more beneficent means, but as long as we have a lovely capitalist society loving everything up, that's going to be little Dutch boy with his finger in the dyke, at best. e; gosh hecking darn it In 67AD, the apostles Peter and Paul would be martyred in Rome. Sadly, this wouldn't stop the ultimate erosion of the cool religions. Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Feb 14, 2020 |
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bessantj posted:I admit to knowing nothing about negotiating international trade deals but would their level of friendship actually have anything to do with it? I'd have thought it would have been handled by a load of experts and then those two would declare it an amazing deal even if it was poo poo. The experts involved will include lots and lots of lobbyists seeking to protect their market share while tearing down any "red tape" elsewhere. Any agreement will include painful political choices that'll need to be accepted by parliamentarians that seek to protect and promote the business interests in their respective duck ponds, knowing full well they'll be held responsible for voting in favour of something that's perceived to gently caress over their constituents. Even agreeing to include something as potentially negotiable will be hugely controversial, there's basically gently caress all that can be done without cutting off some very choice powers over domestic social and economic policy. Other than that you're right afaik on how any deal will be sold to the public, if they ever manage to put something on paper. but there's too much attention on this to work out that way
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Apraxin posted:A staunch Tory voter you say, I would never have guessed. weird how he doesn't ask elon musk for a "submarine"
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 21:14 |
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Looking forward to the tail-between-the-legs look on the remaining gammons on the occasion of the English & Welsh EU Accession of 2041 where we are just another rando country with no special considerations instead of one of the three top dogs with an awful lot of concessions and a huge say. If Scotland don't veto us ofc
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 21:16 |
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fash'n'chips
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 21:39 |
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Most of the things the UK used that huge say for was protecting tax havens and forcing expansion.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 21:40 |
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Prince John posted:This discussion all got very metaphysical but isn't this way too pessimistic? Aren't there plenty of charities that are successful in turning people away from gang violence etc.? Think there are some counter-extremism ones also? I'm using this to glibly refer to the work of world destroying ultracapitalists and not to normal people making hard / poorly informed choices in poo poo circumstances like gang members etc. Ms Adequate posted:Looking forward to the tail-between-the-legs look on the remaining gammons on the occasion of the English & Welsh EU Accession of 2041 where we are just another rando country with no special considerations instead of one of the three top dogs with an awful lot of concessions and a huge say. If this did actually happen I 100% assure you that they would have convinced themselves that the EU had materially changed in some way and that it was entirely because of us leaving and they learned their lesson, or alternatively, that we were forced to leave and actually wanted to stay but the EU were being really mean but we forgive them now because we are so magnaminous.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 21:46 |
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shame Thornberry’s going to be out the race. I would’ve enjoyed more interviews like this as the election dragged on https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/02/12/emily-thornberry-labour-leadership-contest-lgbt-rights-boris-johnson-trans/
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 22:15 |
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Sorry, this is unrelated to everything BUT I just went to the corner shop before the storm rolls in. I said "gently caress it" and went out in my already-on girl clothes rather than changing to boy clothes as I always have before. This is the FIRST TIME I've been out in girl clothes. I was crossing the street when a couple walking their dog crossed from the other side. The dog was dawdling and the woman goes "Cross! Cross, cross!" and the dog did but then spotted me and came up to investigate and the woman goes "No carry on, she doesn't want ya!" (This was a lie the dog was v. adorable but). "She" GUYS I'M GIDDY I'M OVER THE MOON IT'S DARK AND RAINY AND SHE BARELY SAW ME I'M SURE BUT I'M SO GIDDY MY FIRST GIRLCLOTHES OUTING COULDN'T HAVE GONE BETTER!!!!
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Marmaduke! posted:My employer wants to increase my notice period from one month to three months. I have ignored their request so far, anyone have any other suggestions in case they really get on my case about it? Having been laid off approximately a million times in the UK, and always received the "payment in lieu of notice" thing, my first thought was, oh excellent, please extend it to three months. Hell give me a six month notice period, or 18 months, I don't give a poo poo, just a bigger payday innit ...but yeah it probably wouldn't work quite like that now would it
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Ms Adequate posted:Sorry, this is unrelated to everything BUT So happy for you Ms.A, you deserve it.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 22:28 |
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Ms Adequate posted:Sorry, this is unrelated to everything BUT Now that's some good news for once Good on ya.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 22:35 |
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Ms Adequate posted:e; gosh hecking darn it please This is a family thread
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 22:36 |
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has anyone posted this yet? https://twitter.com/VictoriaLIVE/status/1227899028391763968?s=19 absolutely pathetic. how is anyone supposed to get enthused about any of these people.
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Ms Adequate posted:- Heartwarming story- Yaaay! Oh that is such good news!
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Ms Adequate posted:Sorry, this is unrelated to everything BUT That's so exciting!
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Ms Adequate posted:Sorry, this is unrelated to everything BUT Ms. A you're the best
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Ms Adequate posted:Sorry, this is unrelated to everything BUT Heck yeah! That is awesome
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Ms Adequate posted:I'M SO GIDDY MY FIRST GIRLCLOTHES OUTING COULDN'T HAVE GONE BETTER!!!! This is great news good job Ms. A!
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Darth Walrus posted:lol, you think America and Britain have trade experts. I didn't mean experts I meant civil servants but couldn't think of the words. Them and their non union US equivalents Serventio Civilá. Tijuana Bibliophile posted:The experts involved will include lots and lots of lobbyists seeking to protect their market share while tearing down any "red tape" elsewhere. Any agreement will include painful political choices that'll need to be accepted by parliamentarians that seek to protect and promote the business interests in their respective duck ponds, knowing full well they'll be held responsible for voting in favour of something that's perceived to gently caress over their constituents. Even agreeing to include something as potentially negotiable will be hugely controversial, there's basically gently caress all that can be done without cutting off some very choice powers over domestic social and economic policy. This post mans me both happy and sad. Ms Adequate posted:Sorry, this is unrelated to everything BUT This post just makes me happy.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 23:26 |
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gh0stpinballa posted:has anyone posted this yet? I just saw this on Twitter and loving hell, I’m done. Gave up on Labour in 2013(?) when Ed Milliband sacked Thornberry over the England Flag photo but having a candidate who actually will give an honest thought rather than just saying what they think brought me back. Nobody learns a loving thing, gently caress this, gently caress them all. Don’t care who wins because it doesn’t matter, just cancelling my direct debit.
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I mean they all said "antisemitism bad" and then went on to talk about labour's role in fixing economic injustice, except keir who went on about antisemitism and then unity and then maybe the economy I dunno. It hardly seems that weird? Especially not if you're on loving victoria derbyshire.
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You're all being so nice omg
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Ms Adequate posted:You're all being so nice omg It's a nice story, it made me smile. Glad you had a nice experience
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OwlFancier posted:I mean they all said "antisemitism bad" and then went on to talk about labour's role in fixing economic injustice, except keir who went on about antisemitism and then unity and then maybe the economy I dunno. Yeah, I'm with this. As soon as one of them mentions it, anyone who didn't looks bad, including if they went before the person who mentioned it. Keir was absolutely going to mention it, 100%, so RLB gets to go out of the gates and say "of course I'll deal with this, and I'll also deal with all our core issues"
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 23:49 |
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^^congrats, Ms. A https://twitter.com/heyadiana/status/1228430033414447109 Can you imagine any of our current crop of politicians doing this (obvious bearded messiahs excluded)?
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I mean I'm not keen on her signing up to the BoD thing but it is genuinely really hard when they're all in a pretty weak place trying to get the leadership. And unlike Corbyn who was by far the standout candidate as well as, arguably, not very interested in winning, this is actually an important fight for the future of the labour party. I really do not blame RLB for being afraid of bad press when it could easily cost her the leadership to starmer. I don't think any of the candidates are going to necessarily be much like their campaign pitches, in the sense that I expect keir to go remain brain and gently caress up the membership, nandy to be sending the tanks into edinburgh (though that may be a campaign promise at this point) and RLB to probably put some serious work into actually reforming the party internally to give more power to the membership and I suspect, pursue a strong moral argument for socialist policy.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:^^congrats, Ms. A Maybe Burgon actually. Perhaps I'm wrong.
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https://twitter.com/heyadiana/status/1228446085821149184 I can definitely imagine this happening lol.
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Ms Adequate posted:I'M SO GIDDY MY FIRST GIRLCLOTHES OUTING COULDN'T HAVE GONE BETTER!!!!
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The Last Leg just did a musical number about boris being bob the builder after reading out the tweet from the guy stuck in immigration in schipol. It's literally saturday night live with trump. I now understand what posting cringe is.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:
Caroline Lucas got arrested for protesting fracking a couple of years ago
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OwlFancier posted:The Last Leg just did a musical number about boris being bob the builder after reading out the tweet from the guy stuck in immigration in schipol. They had Anna Soubry on and didn't mention her voting record on disabled benefits. 2 of the 3 presenters are disabled, the show started as a Paralympics commentary show.
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Ms Adequate posted:Sorry, this is unrelated to everything BUT Genuinely the most uplifting thing I’ve heard in months
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WhatEvil posted:They had Anna Soubry on and didn't mention her voting record on disabled benefits. They were persistently shits to Corbyn and Labour, it's unsurprising at this point. Anyone can pull up a ladder, even Alex Brooker.
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HMS Brenda slinked back to Portsmouth at 4am this morning early from North Sea trials with the F-35Bs, rumours swirling that she has broken down yet again
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Ms Adequate posted:"She" So happy for you Ms A!
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OwlFancier posted:The Last Leg just did a musical number about boris being bob the builder after reading out the tweet from the guy stuck in immigration in schipol. I never really watched this show, is it worth watching? Is it more or less cringe than Mock the Week these days?
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Ms Adequate posted:Sorry, this is unrelated to everything BUT Darling I'm so happy! Congrats <3
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happyhippy posted:I never really watched this show, is it worth watching? No idea, I don't watch it or mock the week either, I just saw that bit, it looks godawful.
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