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CPColin posted:I was glad the nuns came right out and stated that their policy was "tell, don't show," but I was disappointed that philosophy leaked out into the other characters. When the ex-Senator was orating, I kept wishing they'd shown and explored this distrust at Picard having scattered the Romulans across the galaxy, rather than just have the guy dump a page of exposition. And why wasn't he mad at his own drat government for dropping the ball? Ugh, just Nero-is-mad-at-Spock all over again. He's a Romulan, better to place the blame on the Federation than his own government. Khanstant posted:That makes me think of The Legend of Zelda, where one of the principle timelines is predicated on a reality where Link peaces out while Ganon takes over the kingdom. That timeline should definitely feature more people who think of Link's bloodline as losers who abandoned them to Ganon. I don't think Link peaced out, he just dies. The hacked together Zelda Timeline has one where Link is defeated by Ganon, and then Ganon rules over hyrule. A second timeline where Link wins, gets turned back into a child and gets to live out his life which is Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess. And a third timeline where Link wins, but disappears because he's sent back to being a child. Senor Tron posted:Yeah that's the good stuff. I've always thought that a good visual for warp travel would be what a bullet being fired underwater looks like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp5gdUHFGIQ
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Aces High posted:As someone who is already a walking Amelia Bedelia, I would be happy living amongst people that practice absolute candor. It would be refreshing to be around people that cut out the bullshit and tell you exactly what they think and expect you to respond back the exact same way. Agreed. That's why I hate politics. It's all about triple-layered lie to advance your agenda, no actual use for the people you should serve to as a politician.
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nine-gear crow posted:Coming of Age. Season 1 TNG. Part of Wesley's Starfleet entrance exam involves the waiting room he's in suddenly bursting into a catastrophic fireball, critically wounding one person and trapping another. The trapped dude can be saved easier than the injured dude, but is too scared to move so Wesley has to abandon him in order to save the untrapped but injured person, leaving them behind to horrifically burn to death. Bonus is that that's how his father died.
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Finally got a chance to see this week's and last week's episodes; my wife and I have a death-pact to watch them together and we haven't had time lately. Was very leery after ep 3 but I see an upturn after ep 4. Not a reversal but cause for hope Ep 4: Flashback and present-day scenes on Vashti were the best parts of the episode by far. If ep 5 doesn't start with Seven being surprised that most starships don't automatically regenerate lost shuttles, I'll be very disappointed. I've been surprised in one way by this show. Especially after the early talk of Picard and his controversial separation from Starfleet, I am very disappointed that he didn't lead a private relief effort against orders, convince at least a few captains to go temporarily renegade with their ships, or something like that. With all the seriousness around his departure and self-imposed semi-isolation, I expected the departure to be less, "Do it or I quit" and more like, "We won't press barratry charges (because you saved tens of thousands of lives when you managed to take command of the Enterprise one last time and it would be very bad press) so long as you immediately resign and go to France for a long, long time. Deal?" Picard is bitching up a storm about Starfleet giving up but all he did was give an ultimatum and then give up. If he hadn't been so disillusioned and disheartened by Starfleet's failure, he might have taken some action, but I think we are supposed to see his anger and frustration at Starfleet masking what he feels for himself, for his failure to help those he help, those he felt responsible for.
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Admiralty Flag posted:Finally got a chance to see this week's and last week's episodes; my wife and I have a death-pact to watch them together and we haven't had time lately. I think something to also consider is that this was relatively recent post-Nemesis Picard when he threw his badge on the desk and walked out. Data dying for him really hosed him up in a lot of ways we're slowly coming to understand as the show goes on. And everyone has their limits on when they just get loving done with life in general, even Jean-Luc Picard. He was in a lingering bad place emotionally when he made that call and made it for very selfish reasons because he wasn't thinking straight at the time and then went and hid away in a place where the consequences of that choice couldn't follow him. And now that he's coming out of hiding, the consequences of those choices are all there waiting for him and he has to face them and own up to them and make amends for what a hypocritical rear end he's been, which if Eps 3 and 4 are any indication, he's going to at least try to. Like I've said before, I think the endgame of this show is going to be redeeming both Picard and the Federation in equal measure as one is kind of a stand-in for the other when you compare how they've changed since Nemesis. But it's gonna be one hell of a climb to get there. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Feb 15, 2020 |
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"Jean-Luc?" I think you mean my buddy JL. I gave him that nickname because of how many syllables it saves me from saying.
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Admiralty Flag posted:"Jean-Luc?" I think you mean my buddy JL. I gave him that nickname because of how many syllables it saves me from saying. I'm representing for them captains all across the world Still hitting them quadrants in them onesie's, girl Still taking my time to perfect the tea (earl grey, hot) And I still got love for the fleet, it's the J-L-P
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Feb 15, 2020 23:38
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Superman's elderly bald powerless cousin, Jay-el
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I like the things they're trying to do with this show, but holy poo poo we're at episode 4 and the story hasn't moved on from 'Picard needs to find the girl'.
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Feb 15, 2020 23:57
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She should have just called him Johnny like his old academy chums.
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I feel like I would have been fine with her calling him French or Cue Ball or Earl. JL is just such a lates 90s YA novel-rear end nickname.
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I think it's important to take a step back and look at the plot objectively. Data's twin daughters turn out to be characters from a secret Romulan prophecy, in which an android become The Destroyer and does some nonspecific evil. And the Super Secret-er Tal Shiar 2 exists solely to find and stop them. This is dumb as hell guys.
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Arglebargle III posted:I think it's important to take a step back and look at the plot objectively. Data's twin daughters turn out to be characters from a secret Romulan prophecy, in which an android become The Destroyer and does some nonspecific evil. And the Super Secret-er Tal Shiar 2 exists solely to find and stop them. the zhat vash found a prothean beacon 2000 years ago and have been preparing for the reapers the whole time
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Arglebargle III posted:I think it's important to take a step back and look at the plot objectively. Data's twin daughters turn out to be characters from a secret Romulan prophecy, in which an android become The Destroyer and does some nonspecific evil. And the Super Secret-er Tal Shiar 2 exists solely to find and stop them. In episode six we find out the terrible secret that the Zhat Vash houses a super-secret inner cult dedicated to killing all Pakleds born Aquarius retrograde in Mercury On a serious note, do we ever see any hint that Romulans have psychic powers like their Vulcan cousins? I was about to type "outside of Nemesis, but we know how much that counts," but it actually does count here. So: deBorged Romulan tarot lady psychically reading Soji, finding nothing, and freaking out? I've only skimmed so apologies if I'm repeating theories.
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Arglebargle III posted:I think it's important to take a step back and look at the plot objectively. Data's twin daughters turn out to be characters from a secret Romulan prophecy, in which an android become The Destroyer and does some nonspecific evil. And the Super Secret-er Tal Shiar 2 exists solely to find and stop them. That's not stopping me from enjoying it
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Admiralty Flag posted:In episode six we find out the terrible secret that the Zhat Vash houses a super-secret inner cult dedicated to killing all Pakleds born Aquarius retrograde in Mercury I think it's kind of been bred out of them by the time of TNG. After they fled from Vulcan, the Romulans basically interbred with every species they conquered in forming their empire, so that's why you have Romulans with forehead ridges and bumps mixing with ones that look more Vulcan and so on. Another explanation could be that Rahmda's latent Borg implants somehow established a connection to Soji's internal systems via the cube or just being in close contact with her (because Voyager would pull poo poo like this all the time with Seven), and she freaked out because basically "oh poo poo, you're an android". A big giveaway was that Soji's little Chernobyl-like badge was glowing green during that scene and one of the things the Romulan orientation guy says in his initial spiel is that if the badge starts glowing green, you're hosed because that means Borg tech nearby is reactivating. In this case, it was Rahmda.
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FuturePastNow posted:Everyone doing the Kobayashi Maru knows it's a training sim. But by that point, they're 3-4 years into the Academy (and Saavik was a Lieutenant, so she was in like a post-graduate command class), the cadets feel smart as hell, and have done hundreds of such sims with scenarios they could always resolve and "win." So you throw someone in a sim they can't beat and see if they get angry, if they give up and leave the freighter to die, if they go out guns blazing, etc. And nothing is really the wrong answer so much as a direction for further training and study. Having worked with the military, I've realised that the real terror of the Kobayashi Maru is the cadets are being placed in a simulated command role that they might be expected to be ready for in twenty years, but their potential to reach that rank is being decided now.
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nine-gear crow posted:In this case, it was Rahmda. Physical contact. Soji is holding her hand at this moment. That's how dormant nanoprobes 'understood' that.
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nine-gear crow posted:A big giveaway was that Soji's little Chernobyl-like badge was glowing green during that scene and one of the things the Romulan orientation guy says in his initial spiel is that if the badge starts glowing green, you're hosed because that means Borg tech nearby is reactivating. In this case, it was Rahmda. Oh drat, I didn't catch that
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Arglebargle III posted:I think it's important to take a step back and look at the plot objectively. Data's twin daughters turn out to be characters from a secret Romulan prophecy, in which an android become The Destroyer and does some nonspecific evil. And the Super Secret-er Tal Shiar 2 exists solely to find and stop them. Yup. Also bad.
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Ship chat: Am I crazy or does Rios's ship look just like the Normandy from the back? Not from any other angle, but the aft profile.
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Admiralty Flag posted:I've been surprised in one way by this show. Especially after the early talk of Picard and his controversial separation from Starfleet, I am very disappointed that he didn't lead a private relief effort against orders, convince at least a few captains to go temporarily renegade with their ships, or something like that. With all the seriousness around his departure and self-imposed semi-isolation, I expected the departure to be less, "Do it or I quit" and more like, "We won't press barratry charges (because you saved tens of thousands of lives when you managed to take command of the Enterprise one last time and it would be very bad press) so long as you immediately resign and go to France for a long, long time. Deal?" Picard had been in Starfleet for over 75 years at that point. He didn't know how to function without Starfleet. He still doesn't, to be honest - his first instinct was to go to Starfleet Command and ask for a ship from them, and he decided he liked Rios because he acted like a Starfleet officer.
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Ok, so episode 4 was a step up. But to steal my uncle's words, 'four episodes to get into space and then we get a first season Next Gen story'. Not great but it almost felt like Star Trek at times. Idle thoughts so far:
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I'm just waiting for one of the incest Romulans to say "yum yum" when it's time to kill Soji.
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I just hope they bring back one of those future golf balls from Voyager with a blinking light
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Also I know this was a while back but Patrick Stewart is not a “boomer”. He was born in 1940. He’s a year older than Bernie Sanders.
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Delthalaz posted:Also I know this was a while back but Patrick Stewart is not a “boomer”. He was born in 1940. He’s a year older than Bernie Sanders. I mean that same poster also described the TNG era as third way centrism and the bridge crew as a bunch of "failsons". e: apologies to upgunned shitpost, I misremembered and you didn't actually call Picard a "boomer", but I still think the rest was totally incoherent. Lizard Combatant fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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piratepilates posted:Also I must say, Picard's outfit at the start on the desert planet was magNIFICIENT. John Romer presents The History of the Romulan Star Empire. Good god that would be awesome.
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Is there a Star Trek that doesn't have gambling? TOS famously has Fizzbin, TNG has the poker games, DS9 has Dabo and Tongo... Also reminds me of how Vic and Quark are reduced to playing Go Fish in the finale since it's the only two-player card game they both know.
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Re episode 5 trailer: If there is never another counting the number of sci-fi casino episodes I can remember TNG: The casino hidden in the gas giant Cowboy Bebop: The episode that introduces Faye Valentine galenanorth fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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He means the casino planet in Last Jedi. You can dance around it by saying "sci-fi" but it's the terrible casino planet from Last Jedi you're worried about. I doubt there'll be a space donkey chase at least. Things that probably will happen: Rios will get right into it, Raffi will scoff and roll her eyes a lot, Jurati will be wide eyed and distracted by exotic buff dudes and Elnor will say something inappropriately blunt for comic relief. I'll be very disappointed if Picard doesn't at least take to his role like the holodeck thespian and frequently undercover operative that he is.
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So far this has been a series of boring "What if fantasy but SCI-FI???" mmorpg cutscenes and I guess what I"m saying is we were better off when gamers were marginalized.
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galenanorth posted:
Actually one of my favourite because this is the first Star Trek episode I saw on tv back in 90s. Also it has some cool Data action!
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Feb 16, 2020 10:31
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Given that we're finally done Getting The Crew Together there's totally going to be a heist now, so a casino planet seems entirely likely (sorry I've been watching that Rick and Morty episode)
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Given that we're finally done Getting The Crew Together there's totally going to be a heist now, so a casino planet seems entirely likely This is how you end up seeing Riker leave the holodeck.
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I mean, ya’ll can keep being weird and miserable about it. Me? I watch Legends of Tomorrow, the dumbest and funnest show on TV at this current moment in history. So I’m all for Trek getting on its level and going full bore Star Trek: An Excuse To Dress Like Space Pimps.
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just another posted:So far this has been a series of boring "What if fantasy but SCI-FI???" mmorpg cutscenes and I guess what I"m saying is we were better off when gamers were marginalized. ...what?
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Angry Salami posted:...what? Better not to engage
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I am not going to complain that the sequel to Star Trek: The Next Generation has too much talking and not enough ACTION
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