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NihilCredo posted:I started reading both OotS and 8BT in 2004. Lol that when you were in high school you were a grognard who didn't like the new card frame/layout (or the program/website you were using didn't support it).
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 07:33 |
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I tried reading oots twice and bounced off hard, the third time I caught up to the current page: V discovering that familicide had killed eveyone in the pyramid.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 08:42 |
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tvtropes promotes a bizarre analytical-positivist approach to literature. analytical positivism isn't necessarily a bad thing, but when a bunch of nerds decide that ah! the hero's journey mist start with the mcguffin falling into the hands of the Chosen One by way of the Wise Mentor or it ain't poo poo! that becomes truly ridiculous - basically the tvtroper type starts imposing their tropes on all texts they encounter since that is the only way they're able to critically approach text. i have seen this happen to non-idiots who are too online in my own life and it's enormously irritating there are serious academics looking at narrative commonalities, cliches, tropes etc, and it's a legitimate line of inquiry, but the tvtroper culture is a bunch of amateurs treating the written word as a maths problem
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 09:25 |
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TVTropes tends to foster a sort of cargo cultish approach to literary analysis, because it focuses mostly on easily noticeable but superficial elements, and can lead people to use these tropes as building blocks because they start to think that's how stories are planned.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 11:21 |
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For me its like: 1. Finding media that's similar to media I already like. 2. Learning or becoming more aware of tropes I wasn't aware of before or never noticed but now I do, And It Makes Me Think. 3. By being aware of these tropes, true 90% of media doesn't surprise me anymore; but it makes genuinely good media stand out for either its novelty, effort, or the quality of the overall craft. In combination its made me appreciate things I like and things I like that also manage to stand out from the crowd in some way.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 14:50 |
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TVT is perfectly fine if you take it as what it was always supposed to be: For entertainment purposes. Spend an evening wikiwalking and finding out about new works or whatever. Maybe even learn something new about stories and how they're made. It's just a lot of people try to use it for actual guidance for writing or litcrit and that's when things gently caress up. Also one has to keep in mind it's a wiki so you can't actually take anything it says on pure face value, even random fandom trivia, because people are often wrong.
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 15:28 |
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In the main webcomics thread, I described Daughter of the Lillies as "the comic Tropers think they're writing when they fill it wall-to-wall with tropes."
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 16:05 |
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I am, technically, a TV Tropes emigree to Something Awful, in the sense that I learned about TV Tropes because someone left the tab open in the highschool computer science classroom and I eventually made an account, found out about Dwarf Fortress there, learned out about Boatmurdered and the Let's Play subforum because of it, and started lurking here at just about the same time I got banned from TV Tropes for calling certain people a bunch of creepy pedophiles. e: I also learned about OotS there, I think my dad fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Feb 14, 2020 |
# ? Feb 14, 2020 16:32 |
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Boat murdered was real good, wasn't it?
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 16:41 |
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Every single one of my old accounts has posted to this thread during its thirteen year existence
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 07:33 |
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oh god this thread is 13 years old
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 18:06 |
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Checking back on page 1, this thread was started on the strip of Miko killing Shojo, 683 strips ago. That's the amount of strips that have been discussed in almost twice as many pages.
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 18:24 |
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Good lord.
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 18:45 |
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Real talk, my questions are: 1) How many pages are taken up by posts containing a variation on “I hope Rich is okay” 2) How many pages are posts containing links to Goblins
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 18:58 |
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Thaddius the Large posted:Real talk, my questions are: 1) Not enough 2) Too many
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 19:22 |
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riderchop posted:oh god this thread is 13 years old https://youtu.be/LRSjKfvm368 Is this the oldest thread on SA, or at least the longest an OT thread has gone without a new thread?
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 19:23 |
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Unlucky7 posted:https://youtu.be/LRSjKfvm368 How long hast the legend of galactic heroes thread been up in adtrw?
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 20:23 |
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Len posted:How long hast the legend of galactic heroes thread been up in adtrw? The Legend of the Galactic Heroes thread is about two and a half years older than this thread, opened in October of 2004.
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 22:48 |
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it's easy to forget before they purged it partially in response to SA mockery, TVT had a lot of pages dedicated to catalouging things like panty shots, rape tropes, fetish tropes with long and exhaustive sections on underage characters in kids media, and a bunch of skeevy stuff along those lines. It's been cleaned up a lot
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 00:22 |
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capitaldelendaest posted:it's easy to forget before they purged it partially in response to SA mockery, TVT had a lot of pages dedicated to catalouging things like panty shots, rape tropes, fetish tropes with long and exhaustive sections on underage characters in kids media, and a bunch of skeevy stuff along those lines. It's been cleaned up a lot I thought it was due to Google not being willing to put up ads on a website that contained that stuff.
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 00:59 |
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That was probably a bigger reason for the purge, yeah. I forgot about that element.
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 01:07 |
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There were also really long threads about oots prior to this one
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 01:26 |
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I find it really touching that this thread has remained so healthy for so long, which I think is, obviously, a testament to how consistently good the strip has been. Whenever I think about urging people to reboot or shut down really really long threads I'm like "but not OotS, never OotS..."
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 02:03 |
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Oots oots oots oots ootsEifert Posting posted:Well after Belkar's most recent speech I think it's pretty much a sure thing that he dies in 5-10 strips. I posted this in march 2011.
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 02:25 |
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Eifert Posting posted:Oots oots oots oots oots I don't think I've ever predicted anything that wasn't utterly, humiliating wrong about oots
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 03:07 |
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I've been posting in this thread for ten years. That's mind boggling
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 03:10 |
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I don't post about Alignment chat so I have far less posts than some of you weirdos. e - less than a page worth, but 7 years cripes.
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 03:30 |
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Who What Now posted:I've been posting in this thread for ten years. That's mind boggling My first in thread was 07, and I was in giantitp before that.
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 06:12 |
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Posting just to see what my oldest post is, but I remember I started reading about the time some strips appeared in Dragon Magazine. E: early 2012 at Girald's Gate was my first post in thread though I know I started reading some time before that. E2: I've averaged one post a year in this thread. ArchRanger fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Feb 16, 2020 |
# ? Feb 16, 2020 06:45 |
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Looks like I started posting right after the end of book 5. I think I'd been lurking for a while longer, but obviously there's no record of that.
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 06:49 |
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I remember reading some when they were still in the initial dungeon, then forgetting about it and coming back and reading it around the early azure city stuff, and then coming back and being pretty consistent (as much as the updates would allow) from the battle of azure city onward. I’ve reread a few times, so its hard to place exactly where I was when I was reading the comic for the first time, but its been a long loving time.
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 18:00 |
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Is rich ok? Edit: April 2007 was my first post here. Yikes.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 05:58 |
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Rich is ok http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1192.html Looks like we are currently on one strip a week schedule. Let's see how long will it last.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 17:19 |
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I'm claiming half-credit for that.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 17:22 |
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Bah, kids these days with their fancy homebrewed spells.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 19:55 |
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So it's like a magical Friends and Family cellular plan. As long as you only contact family and those with whom you would swear a blood oath, you get around most of the limitations.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 21:35 |
IMJack posted:So it's like a magical Friends and Family cellular plan. As long as you only contact family and those with whom you would swear a blood oath, you get around most of the limitations. This screams a DnD game exploit. "So if we swear a blood oath against that drunk at the bar we can use the magic of the blood oath for spell modification?" "Well yes but you need to kill him..." "WHEN do we need to kill him? Is there a limit on blood oaths?" "... Damnit guys."
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 21:55 |
Donkringel posted:This screams a DnD game exploit. And when they finally remember to get back around to that, they find out that Random Drunk finally cleaned up his act in the interceding years and went on to become another world-renowned hero at least on par with the party members who swore the oath against him... Or he became wealthy enough to hire a whole company of them to protect him.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 22:05 |
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Donkringel posted:This screams a DnD game exploit. I mean, the whole "you can't go to your afterlife until someone kills the drunk at the bar" bit is a bit of an issue.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 22:12 |
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Especially if the drunk succumbs to drunken misadventures or the like.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 22:25 |