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waah posted:So I guess a new 3ds can play ds games which I had no idea so it's time to go rummaging for my Infinite Space Cart. Thanks nerds, I didn't have enough games to play already. Join us once again on the sea of stars as a fellow Zero-G Dog! 
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I have never actually played Infinite Space. I wonder if it emulates OK.
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Feb 16, 2020 17:27
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Prism posted:I have never actually played Infinite Space. I wonder if it emulates OK. yeah it does, at least on desmume the emu i'd normally rec these days is melonds but that's still kinda early going so it might not be as reliable for some heavier games yet
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Feb 16, 2020 17:28
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Oh and there's some otome games that have RPG elements, even a few that have full-on combat, but I can't think of any that got translated.
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Feb 16, 2020 17:28
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Kanfy posted:Power move is to test for roommates by deliberately leaving increasingly smutty characters on your screen and seeing if and when they get mortified. the problem is when your uncle walks in and yells "yowza, take a look at those garbanzos" or something Endorph posted:Oh and there's some otome games that have RPG elements, even a few that have full-on combat, but I can't think of any that got translated. yeah, though I feel like otome is "cheating"/against the spirit of the question with that being said Fenrich in D4 is almost explicit (as in there are poorly-veiled jokes about it) yaoi-bait, which is cool
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Feb 16, 2020 17:31
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Endorph posted:Oh and there's some otome games that have RPG elements, even a few that have full-on combat, but I can't think of any that got translated. someone should translate the original snes voice edition of angelique, and someone should emulate the angelique snes audio tape player specifically for it
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Feb 16, 2020 17:33
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Feels Villeneuve posted:
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Feb 16, 2020 17:34
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I'd say a lot of the guys from the post-SotN Castlevanias are about as equally gothic sexy as the ladies.
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Feb 16, 2020 17:37
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Endorph posted:this is double complicated because japan has a fairly strong history of young women self-sexualizing as a form of rebellion against a restrictive society. not that this means senran kagura is secretly a feminist diatribe, just that you might put a confident, sexual character in her story for reasons besides 'appealing to men,' depending on how that character is framed. like uhh there's a lot of otome or 'girl attracts a lot of guys' type stories that are obviously framed for women's enjoyment but have an older, more flirty type girl who gives the mc advice, and that character isn't there to try to attract male readers or anything but because a lot of young women would have or want a friend like that, or think that sort of person is cool, or whatever. I think a lot of people struggle with the notion that no media exists in a bubble, and if you don't understand the context of that media, it's time and place in the world, you'll miss the ways that sexuality can be, not just a form of rebellion, but a tool of empowerment for women. Feels Villeneuve posted:with that being said Fenrich in D4 is almost explicit (as in there are poorly-veiled jokes about it) yaoi-bait, which is cool I'm always wary about immediately jumping on something subtly queer as baity, if mainly because there's still a lot of push-back for such representation in media, and sometimes relying on coded trope and terminology is the only way to get it through.
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Feb 16, 2020 17:42
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:I'm always wary about immediately jumping on something subtly queer as baity, if mainly because there's still a lot of push-back for such representation in media, and sometimes relying on coded trope and terminology is the only way to get it through. on the one hand, yes, on the other hand it's basically a running joke with the girl characters forming a gossip circle and basically shipping the two male leads together, which seems to be a good-natured rib on that kind of thing and yeah i honestly don't mind it that much- it really only struck me as unusual 'cuz that's like, the *only* explicitly sexualized character design among the main party, and I don't remember a lot of examples where a male character filled that "role"
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Feb 16, 2020 17:51
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belial's great because he's literally just a genderswapped version of a really common female villain archetype and everyone loves him to pieces and thinks hes the best, and he comes across really unique. he'd still be a really well written example of that archetype even if he was a girl but him being a guy really adds some flair to him.
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Feb 16, 2020 17:55
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Endorph posted:It kinda varies because like, what is fanservice for girls isn't necessarily the same thing that's been trained to be fanservice for dudes. Social conditioning and all. So like, sad pretty boy with angsty backstory who just wants a nice girl to hold him is in the same arena as big titty older sister type, imo, even if one's more in your face than the other. This is a good point. Naturally Final Fantasy XV was the first game that came to my mind given the four sexy male leads are far and away more prominent than any woman in the game. But I didn't say this because they wear pretty normal outfits; nothing nearly as blatant as Cidney's tits hanging out. But I guess I was thinking too much like a guy. There's a lot of "emotion porn" (?) in FFXV. The game's foundation an its greatest strength is the bond between our four hunky heroes. I'm not even usually into his type but Gladio does it for me. But I'm a guy, even if I'm bi. I can't speak for the ladies. My GF likes him too, though. His outfit works for him even if it isn't as flagrant as the ladies' attire.
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Feb 16, 2020 17:58
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the dude character-design equivalent of big honkers is having visible hip bones
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i'm uncomfortable with the language of calling something "baity" because unless the thing itself is consistently kinda weird about it or w/e, the phrase itself is often used in a way that to me feels cheapening of what other people might've taken out of it personally, and often is used based on people's own misinformation or presumptions about the work
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I think a major issue with discussing sexualization in JRPGs is generally the age of the characters involved, which unfortunately happens to cross over a *lot* with the censorship crowd whose have an uncomfortable amount of people where the relative age of the characters is a selling point for their sexualization. If an adult character is going to have a heavily sexed up design then it only really is an issue if it is at utter contrast with their characters or if the design is so egregiously stupid that no amount of justification can make it work. (Looking at you Star Ocean 5.) It can sometimes be excessive but that's more of an individual case-by-case thing. The heavy sexualization of teenagers (or younger-than-teenagers/characters explicitly drawn and acting that age despite being 1000 year old dragons) is a lot harder to swallow charitably. That isn't to say teenagers are expected to dress like modest saints or whatever because that isn't really true to character, but basically the point when it crosses the line from "this is how a teenage character might dress" to "Isn't this teenager super sexy, don't you want to see her panties?"which is really offputting. Tokyo Mirage Sessions is an interesting example here because it's a game about idols and thus they wear lots of outfits which bare a fair amount of skin. However by and large the game is focused on how they find performing to be empowering and helps their confidence and the outfits are part of the performance. It has relatively little in the way of 'fanservice' beyond having a wide variety of outfits. The original Chapter 2 was a pretty blunt exception to that but it was also something the developers clearly took into account because the English version focuses on the important part (the character's confidence and personal growth) and not the creepy part. (Dude kidnapping teenage girls to take bikini photos.) I genuinely think TMS is a good example of how you can handle that subject matter well. Yes, it technically is focused around a predatory industry but the actual focus on the game is the character's growth and confidence and they have a wide variety of costumes and outfits rather than just one. In comparison Persona tends to handle it relatively poorly not just because of the general sexism involved in a lot of things but because a lot of their stuff is focused on the titillation and not the characters. ("Haha, this teenage girl is embarrassed because you made her wear a bondage outfit but she isn't allowed to say no") ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Feb 16, 2020 18:00
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the dude character-design equivalent of big honkers is having visible hip bones That makes Isaac from Castlevania: Curse of Darkness is the most blatant design ever.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:00
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women really like *checks fandom.wikia* Gladiolus Amticia's large breasts, if my Downloads folder is anything to go by
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Feb 16, 2020 18:54
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DisDisDis posted:women really like *checks fandom.wikia* Gladiolus Amticia's large breasts, if my Downloads folder is anything to go by
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Feb 16, 2020 19:00
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Is Sad Brooding Pretty Boy just the male version of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl?
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Feb 16, 2020 19:20
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Ethiser posted:Is Sad Brooding Pretty Boy just the male version of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl?
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Feb 16, 2020 19:20
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As I understand, Ignis With His Hair Down is also a popular one.
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Feb 16, 2020 19:21
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Endorph posted:No tbh manix pixie dream boy is fairly common too Yeah, Manic Pixie Dream Boys happen fairly often. Tidus is a pretty good example, and pretty literal for one part of the name.
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Feb 16, 2020 19:29
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That being said, I recently made a thread on r/otomegames asking about male equivlents to popular female types in media. If any of you are old like me maybe you remember Totally Spies? I was curious about if otome games have characters like Clover. Somebody pointed out to me that a lot of the things that made Clover Clover are associated with teenage girls specifically and it would make little sense to have them in boys. The standard image of a teenage boy is pretty much the opposite of bubbly, boy crazy and obsessed with fashion. Apparently the rough male equivalent would be the himbo but they aren't common in otome games from what I was told.
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Feb 16, 2020 19:34
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I can think of a few guys like that, not necessarily in otome games but in stuff aimed at girls. Shiki from Idolmaster SideM sorta fits that character type.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:08
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Amppelix posted:has anyone actually played destiny connect and is able to tell me what it's like? I played it, outside of the ugly rear end artstyle and and transforming robot gimmick it's utterly generic.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:08
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Whoops
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Feb 16, 2020 20:12
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Belial ftw.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:32
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The Colonel posted:i'm uncomfortable with the language of calling something "baity" because unless the thing itself is consistently kinda weird about it or w/e, the phrase itself is often used in a way that to me feels cheapening of what other people might've taken out of it personally, and often is used based on people's own misinformation or presumptions about the work yeah like, i feel the term at first was meant to be aim at more like corporate-y feeling stuff but now its just use as anything that doesn't overtly say its gay which devalues like what people put into the work, what people get out of the work, and tells them "your feelings about the work are not real" like often times i just seen it used around for more subtext-y type of things and its crazy to call that bait because like, so often subtext literally was the only way some gay creators could like get something in a story or a movie until more recently.
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Feb 17, 2020 00:27
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If you cant understand why someone might dismiss a game as more anime titty nonsense when those images are the first things you see when you get to a game's page where Napoleon Bonepart is an anime teenager and launch into a screed about 'maybe it's YOU that is closed minded!' then I dont know what to say. If you've got any other responses other than that about the gameplay and what kind of game it is and anything good about it, go ahead, but yelling about how big anime titties are normal in this thread isnt really a winning argument.
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Feb 17, 2020 00:52
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lmao that you ignored every single reply just to keep being mad that a videogame has cleavage
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Feb 17, 2020 01:01
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Yeah? So what. Cant I be a girl who is really loving put off by male gaze in games anymore? Plus go back to my first response which is about how this guy got the wrong impression about the game and now you're all piling on me instead like dumbasses and pointint out my virtue signalling are really posts I want to respond to
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Feb 17, 2020 01:02
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those images are totally normal, yes. addendum: lol
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Nice meltdown
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Feb 17, 2020 01:11
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But what about the battleship girls game where they all have 18"...uhhh guns
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Feb 17, 2020 01:12
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waah posted:But what about the battleship girls game where they all have 18"...uhhh guns
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Feb 17, 2020 01:13
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nearly everything said about this subject was well reason and thought out and you characterized it as people yelling and fronting which is disingenuous
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Feb 17, 2020 01:13
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Synthbuttrange posted:Yeah? So what. Cant I be a girl who is really loving put off by male gaze in games anymore? Plus go back to my first response which is about how this guy got the wrong impression about the game and now you're all piling on me instead like dumbasses and pointint out my virtue signalling are really posts I want to respond to lol
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Feb 17, 2020 01:14
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Endorph posted:azur lane is extremely titty but i liked the bit in the recent valentine's event where one of the boat girls went 'i am not interested in you, player avatar. im going to go gently caress my lesbian wife now' and a bunch of people got mad No effin way? Hahahaha that loving owns.
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It’s more tedious having this discussion every time something with like any titty in it comes up.
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