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Feb 16, 2020 17:44
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All magic cards are “contrived”... almost by definition
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Feb 16, 2020 17:46
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like I don't know how you'd get to the conclusion that Questing Beast, a literal creature from legend with keywords for days, shouldn't be legendary unless you're the sort of person who goes 'okay commander is bad and evil so any decisions made because of commander must be lovely' and then just spins up your whine engines
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Feb 16, 2020 17:47
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Bust Rodd posted:All magic cards are “contrived”... almost by definition yeah i know but i mean you can have legendary creatures without it being obvious they were conceived for edh, Questing Beast being a good example of that. edit: im saying Questing Beast feels natural to the set. its an example of a legendary card that doesnt feel contrived kalvanoo fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Feb 16, 2020 17:48
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noted unplayable card in standard, questing beast what the gently caress is going on today lmao
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Feb 16, 2020 17:51
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Katana Gomai posted:Play what you want but EDH is the reason why they print more and more legendary creatures (Gavin mentioned a week or so ago that they're going out of their way to offer "more options" to commander players) in Standard sets, which sucks. I had a pretty sweet UB draft deck the other week with Protean Thaumaturge and a bunch of strong creatures. Except they were all legendary, even poo poo like Thryx, Alirios and Aphemia. IMO the best example of designing for EDH hurting standard is Golos.
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Feb 16, 2020 17:57
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Bust Rodd posted:edit: I’m wrong, “it’s not real magic” is the dumbest, but this one is so fresh and exciting that I was struck by it! It's not real magic, it's an arbitrary set of rules created by an outside organization.
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Feb 16, 2020 17:58
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I appreciate them using the Legendary supertype on lower power cards for good flavor. Like Alirios.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:01
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I never thought about questing beast in the context of edh but now I'm wondering what the 99 would look like with QB as the Commander. Doesn't really have any obvious synergies but always having access to it could be pretty powerful. Might be too narrow since it's quite explicitly a Planeswalker hate card
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Feb 16, 2020 18:11
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I think part of Questing Beast's thing that justifies being legendary is that it has 3 keywords and none of them are primary in green. Deathtouch I think slants only slightly toward black, but haste is rare in green to the point you'd be forgiven for thinking it was unprecedented in the colour.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:21
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"there are more legendary creatures than i would like to have" is a valid opinion, but it is also a trash argument that does not explain the unwarranted aggression toward people who play edh in this thread like at some point, the shitposts stop being shitposts and just become open hostility The Clowner posted:I never thought about questing beast in the context of edh but now I'm wondering what the 99 would look like with QB as the Commander. Doesn't really have any obvious synergies but always having access to it could be pretty powerful. Might be too narrow since it's quite explicitly a Planeswalker hate card questing beast is not particularly good in commander as a commander or as part of the 99. it's legendary because it's a pushed 4 drop where multiples would probably make it too strong, especially when green is already pushed enough as it is in standard right now
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Feb 16, 2020 18:21
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It’s interesting that people poo poo on basically every format in this thread and players of those formats don’t care but if you tease EDH players they fill their diapers and complain about hostility and discrimination. Indicative of the weak mind and poor moral character endemic to players of baby formats imo  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 16, 2020 18:36
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It's pretty funny and sad, actually. I checked in at edhrec and looked at the Top EDH Cards list, which they base off tens of thousands of decks, most of which are extremely casual (to the point where the first thing I do looking at commanders is filter out the 60-70% of decks with Reliquary Tower and Temple of the False God). Sure, Sol Ring is #1 with a bullet, but I'd be surprised if more than a handful of people in this thread could name one of The EDH Boogeymen: Cards printed since EDH got brought in-house that see broad play in EDH. Ya know, Dirty EDH Cards Cloghin' Up My Boosters Where More Teferis Should Be.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:37
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i dont think wotc proving incapable of something should preclude the possibility that they were trying to do it
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Feb 16, 2020 18:40
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Judging by Modern Horizons and basically every Standard set from the last 5 years, I'd say that's not at all unique to EDH.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:43
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kalvanoo posted:i dont think wotc proving incapable of something should preclude the possibility that they were trying to do it otoh you could rephrase that as "I think wotc was trying to do X, and they're so bad at doing X that it doesn't even look like they're doing X!!"
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Feb 16, 2020 18:43
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It should be called The Questing Beast because it's legendary. Aside from that, I only care about cube so you can do whatever you want with legendaries, WotC designers. edit: actually, the more busted legendaries I feel obliged to include in cube gives Kiki-Jiki less targets, so I don't like them as much now.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:47
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Crackbone posted:It's not real magic, it's an arbitrary set of rules created by an outside organization.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:48
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How do people feel about the current standard? Playing around with a few decks they seemed interesting but some like the Fires deck felt a little clunky sometimes.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:49
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TheKingofSprings posted:How do people feel about the current standard? Playing around with a few decks they seemed interesting but some like the Fires deck felt a little clunky sometimes. Seems aight. There’s a really good UW control deck and a really good RDW deck which I think is usually a good sign of a healthy-ish format imo.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:50
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TheKingofSprings posted:How do people feel about the current standard? Playing around with a few decks they seemed interesting but some like the Fires deck felt a little clunky sometimes. Game sucks. Everything sucks. This standard seems fine without Oko.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:51
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fadam posted:Seems aight. There’s a really good UW control deck and a really good RDW deck which I think is usually a good sign of a healthy-ish format imo. UW seems like the best it has been in a crazy long time and while I dislike a lot going on with the game that makes me pretty happy with the health of standard, at least.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:53
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I think it’s also a good sign that both decks are good but don’t have anything quite as obnoxious as Teferi or Whirler.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:55
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TheKingofSprings posted:How do people feel about the current standard? Playing around with a few decks they seemed interesting but some like the Fires deck felt a little clunky sometimes. Seems fine. Simic is probably the best deck overall but not so overpowered that you can't just run whatever you want from the rest of the Tier 1 or 2 stuff.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:57
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an_mutt posted:It should be called The Questing Beast because it's legendary. Aside from that, I only care about cube so you can do whatever you want with legendaries, WotC designers. I utterly despise the convention of putting "The" on legendary cards. I'm playing a The Scarab God. Ugh, my neuroses
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Feb 16, 2020 19:07
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You're playing THE Questing Beast. THE Scarab God.
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Feb 16, 2020 19:23
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flatluigi posted:just because you drafted poorly 
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Feb 16, 2020 19:37
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an_mutt posted:You're playing THE Questing Beast. THE Scarab God. I'm playing one of the four questing beasts in my deck. A questing beast among many. I often play a Teferi too.
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Feb 16, 2020 19:42
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Running a few Nicols Bolas.
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Feb 16, 2020 19:44
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I have Nicol's Bolas hanging on my truck.
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Feb 16, 2020 19:45
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sit on my Facebook posted:I utterly despise the convention of putting "The" on legendary cards. I'm playing a The Scarab God. Ugh, my neuroses Do you refer to friends and other things with pronouns that way? If I’m like a unique legendary person my friends say I’m going to hang with [the] uggy not an uggy. Same poo poo uggy fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Feb 16, 2020 20:07
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fadam posted:It’s interesting that people poo poo on basically every format in this thread and players of those formats don’t care but if you tease EDH players they fill their diapers and complain about hostility and discrimination. Indicative of the weak mind and poor moral character endemic to players of baby formats imo 
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Feb 16, 2020 20:10
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uggy posted:If I’m like a unique legendary person my friends say I’m going to hang with [the] uggy not an uggy. Same poo poo Your friends are so mean.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:19
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Star Man posted:I have Nicol's Bolas hanging on my truck. Dollop about the truck bolas war when?
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Feb 16, 2020 20:21
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I think standard is not amazing but fine. Fires is a weird deck, it kindof feels like Hearthstone in that you're just jamming poo poo and hoping it's enough to beat your opponent, and once you assemble Teferi and Fires no-one is doing anything on the opponent's turn.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:29
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an_mutt posted:It should be called The Questing Beast because it's legendary. Aside from that, I only care about cube so you can do whatever you want with legendaries, WotC designers. Aaron Forsythe copped to this on Twitter, voting that they weren’t considering how people who hadn’t been immersed in developing the format would perceive that creature as not being unique.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:29
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fadam posted:It’s interesting that people poo poo on basically every format in this thread and players of those formats don’t care but if you tease EDH players they fill their diapers and complain about hostility and discrimination. Indicative of the weak mind and poor moral character endemic to players of baby formats imo it must be an act of god that a person can be so disingenuous and not spontaneously collapse under the weight of the irony resulting from it
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Feb 16, 2020 20:32
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turns out picking up and maindecking a card with bad synergy with the rest of your deck isn't wizard's fault, sorry
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Feb 16, 2020 20:51
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uggy posted:Do you refer to friends and other things with pronouns that way? Is it The Thalia, Heretic Cathar? I'm also playing four The Scarab Gods. Four The Scarabs God. Four Gods Scarab? These are the things that fill my The Brain
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sit on my Facebook posted:Is it The Thalia, Heretic Cathar? I'm also playing four The Scarab Gods. Four The Scarabs God. Four Gods Scarab? clearly questing beast must be a proper name-- first name questing, last name beast meanwhile, the scarab god's middle name must be scarab so like many people, they can use that as a nickname
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