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Astounding, really, turning "IntSys has, especially in recent history, been garbage at writing gay people and I don't trust them to take the crit they need to improve their writing of sexual minorities" into "I don't think they should do better", really proves you're arguing in good faith E: Like, why should all of their settings have comphet? That's on the writers for constantly returning to that to avoid having to acknowledge that people who are strictly gay exist
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But this game and echoes show massive improvement in that department and you're the one who immediately took people's legitimate grievances with that kind of writing and said they shouldn't be in the fanbase, lol.
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Feb 16, 2020 19:49
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Ah, yes, because referring specifically to making all of the sewer rats bi is the same as referring to the entire cast Like, that was the original context: just the Ashen Wolves. Not the rest of the cast. No one else. E: having the pick of outcasts be all explicitly queer is if anything far more realistic than the alternative V I was not the one who was an rear end first, "dude". V Like Clockwork fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Feb 16, 2020 19:52
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theres no need to be an rear end, dude
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Feb 16, 2020 19:53
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I’d take everyone being bi over everyone being straight, but ideally there’d be a mix of bi and gay characters. Straights are fine if everyone is represented, but I personally wouldn’t miss them. Hell, I’d also be down with more non-romantic endings like Hanneman and Lysithea and Alois and anyone and probably a bunch of others. Or ones that don’t commit either way, like Marianne and Raphael.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I’d take everyone being bi over everyone being straight, but ideally there’d be a mix of bi and gay characters. Straights are fine if everyone is represented, but I personally wouldn’t miss them. Yeah, like personally why I'd be fine with everyone bi is that straights still feel like the default, with all the attention and flourishes and gays get the scraps. At least with everyone bi you can date your favorite dude or dudette, since they probably will just rewrite the straight S support anyway. At least I would be okay with the much smaller amount of same sex characters you can date if some of them were actually exclusively gay. But that hasn't happened so far. So idk. 
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Feb 16, 2020 20:03
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Endorph posted:considering that fodlan is explicitly against gay marriage (in the jp because lol translation) this makes sense to me.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:12
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Leonie has a lot of platonic endings and they are consistently the best, so clearly we need more of them. More endings where the characters just turn into clowns.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:24
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Part of it is also that “and then they traveled together forever” was like. The default ending for same sex paired endings in older FEs. In isolation it’s a perfectly romantic idea, it just feels over used. I would also blame Treehouse though because they toned down some of the same sex endings and toned up some of the opposite sex endings because 2005 and 2019 are the exact same I guess.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:41
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gotta say, I really like how the dlc is balanced in terms of your playable units. It really feels like everyone has a defined purpose. Hapi and Constance are your offensive mages, Hilda, Byleth, and Balthus are your big shitwreckers, Ashe and Claude are your archers, Dimitri and Edeglard are your tanks, Linhardt is your healer, and Yuri does a bit of everything and has enough mobility to be easy to get where he needs to be. Everyone even has different niches in their roles, like Claude flying but Ashe having increased range. I do kinda wish there was maybe some variance in terms of who you can bring, just because it feels like the kind of thing you'll only ever play once, and so much of the game boils down to Edelgard facetanking everything that maybe another tank would have been good, since Dimitri isn't *that* tanky. Maybe Gilbert, lord knows that man could use some content, and it'd be fun to see him interacting with non-lions more. Plus in general having an adult down there for everyone to bounce off/completely fail to listen to would be fun.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:43
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hopeandjoy posted:Part of it is also that “and then they traveled together forever” was like. The default ending for same sex paired endings in older FEs. In isolation it’s a perfectly romantic idea, it just feels over used. There's basically like four FE endings ever ('he was a pillar of strength for the new kingdom,' 'he never picked up an axe again,' 'he vanished mysteriously,' 'they traveled together forever') and only recently have they gotten out of those tropes, in terms of endings. Heck, nobody in Three Houses even Vanishes Without A Trace!
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Endorph posted:There's basically like four FE endings ever ('he was a pillar of strength for the new kingdom,' 'he never picked up an axe again,' 'he vanished mysteriously,' 'they traveled together forever') and only recently have they gotten out of those tropes, in terms of endings. Heck, nobody in Three Houses even Vanishes Without A Trace! I swear someone does, in a particular paired ending.
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Feb 16, 2020 21:11
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Taear posted:I swear someone does, in a particular paired ending. Flayn and Lindhart both vanish in their paired ending but some years later their kids show up at the academy.
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Endorph posted:I do kinda wish there was maybe some variance in terms of who you can bring, just because it feels like the kind of thing you'll only ever play once, and so much of the game boils down to Edelgard facetanking everything that maybe another tank would have been good, since Dimitri isn't *that* tanky. Maybe Gilbert, lord knows that man could use some content, and it'd be fun to see him interacting with non-lions more. Plus in general having an adult down there for everyone to bounce off/completely fail to listen to would be fun. Somehow my Dimitri ended up nearly as tanky as Edelgard. It was great, especially since he was a lance user and was good against all those sword enemies. Between the two of them I didn't feel like I needed another tank, but my Dimitri may have gotten lucky with his defense. It is a shame that the DLC doesn't feel very replayable. It would help if the units had more reclass options, I think. Of course I think part of why I liked it was how tightly balanced it felt, so maybe extra units or class options would have taken away from that.
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Feb 16, 2020 21:27
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Hunt11 posted:Flayn and Lindhart both vanish in their paired ending but some years later their kids show up at the academy. That's probably what I'm thinking of, they paired up in my first game. Man I wonder what their kids would be like? Are they (flayn spoiler) immortal too? Can they transform? I guess the game doesn't really explain why their transformation powers got locked out.
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Feb 16, 2020 21:57
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Taear posted:I swear someone does, in a particular paired ending. Lysithea also does, at least in her unpaired black eagles ending And Marianne pulls off the rare midgame vanishing if you don’t recruit her 
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Apparently Jeritza and Constance’s paired ending is him becoming her house husband, it’s [i]marvelous[i]
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Taear posted:That's probably what I'm thinking of, they paired up in my first game. It's implied that for Seteth and Flayn they basically used up what dragons powers they had just clinging to life after the war with Nemesis, which is also why they were asleep for 900 some odd years, they needed to heal.
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Endorph posted:https://twitter.com/vo1ez/status/1229080464754790400  Lord Cyrahzax posted:Apparently Jeritza and Constance’s paired ending is him becoming her house husband, it’s marvelous /cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/65271802/chrome_2019_09_17_14_47_39.0.png)
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Endorph posted:Tbh i prefer how three houses handles it to 'everyone is bi lol.' Everyone feels like they have sexualities that manifest in different waya based on who theyre with and their own self perceptions/experiences. Itd be great if there were like, 2-3 exclusively gay characters but i vastly prefer the current dichotomy to everyone being bi. I also love the touch that some characters are gay but not gay for the player character.
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Mokinokaro posted:I also love the touch that some characters are gay but not gay for the player character. If anything I think the weirdest thing about Three Houses' sexual politics is that everyone of the opposite sex is potentially interested in Byleth. It feels like there should be more people who are straight, but not interested in Byleth, just like how it works for the bi characters. Well, that and the whole "professor dating their students" thing. I guess that's a lot worse, really.
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there's a five year gap and you fight a literal war together afterwards, the professor thing is basically a non-issue imo especially since Byleth is 21 and some of the students are literally older than them
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Did IS just forget Sothis existed or could they not get her voice actor in for the DLC? Makes no sense she never comments on any of this.
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Yeah they really sidestep any issues with dating students given how Byleth is roped into teaching, their age, and the gap. Basileus777 posted:Did IS just forget Sothis existed or could they not get her voice actor in for the DLC? Makes no sense she never comments on any of this. same reason Jeralt never shows up in the DLC even if it'd make a ton of sense for him to do so. And him not reading the title cards threw me off.
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It could also be their Japanese voice actors they couldn’t get.
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The DLC has the same problem with Jeralt, I definitely think there must have been some VA contract issues. E: Welp.
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Tbh i wouldnt be surprised if hilda, ashe, and linhardt were there primarily because they could get their VAs. All their JP VAs are young and not that big.
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Has IntSys announced if they're going to be releasing anything else for Three Houses? Kinda hoping that they're able to patch in some more supports for some of the DLC characters. I'm pretty satisfied with the game as-is, but it would be nice if they gradually added a few more supports over time (as well as other content, but really i'm just here for the supports.) Also, a little bit of a shame that Constance doesn't have a support with Lorenz, but i'll take Constance/Ferdinand.
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"Okay, I will for once not use Lysie. Constance and Happi are in my party regardless, sorry Dorathea." "Why the gently caress does Hubert have more speed than Petra at a lower level (14 at level 9??)
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Arrrthritis posted:Has IntSys announced if they're going to be releasing anything else for Three Houses? Kinda hoping that they're able to patch in some more supports for some of the DLC characters.
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Endorph posted:Considering the random Jeritza/Bernie support added in this patch I imagine it's the last bit of content for this game. Especially since they'll probably announce the next FE at the FE Expo in May. At best we maybe get another wave of dlc before the next one comes out btu I doubt it
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I mean I don't really know what you'd add, frankly this one was kinda stretching it. Like some of the costumes are cool but does anyone care about there being five 'do the generic bandit battles' quests at the monastery. jeritza and the ashen wolf stuff was the only content of any substance and they gave jeritza away
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Endorph posted:I mean I don't really know what you'd add, frankly this one was kinda stretching it. Like some of the costumes are cool but does anyone care about there being five 'do the generic bandit battles' quests at the monastery. jeritza and the ashen wolf stuff was the only content of any substance and they gave jeritza away tbh I just want more supports
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Yeah it’s time for next FE now. The real question is whether it will be a remake or a completely new game. Either way it will likely use 3H’s engine because development costs.
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War Monk could have been an interesting class for a character with high strength and a spell list with nice utility spells to use. It's a shame that no such unit exists. Not a single character with blue arrows in brawling has a faith spell list that's any good. The way they designed the spell lists in this game undercut any real usability for hybrid classes.
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Basileus777 posted:War Monk could have been an interesting class for a character with high strength and a spell list with nice utility spells to use. It's a shame that no such unit exists. Not a single character with blue arrows in brawling have a faith spell list that's any good. The way they designed the spell lists in this game undercut any real usability for hybrid classes. blue arrows are fake and for cops. make bernie punch
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Endorph posted:blue arrows are fake and for cops. make bernie punch Bernie's has physic and nothing else! She'd be a bad fit for the class even if she could punch like Raphael.
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Annette could be good in it. She doesn’t have an affinity for brawling, but she does for axes.
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hopeandjoy posted:Annette could be good in it. She doesn’t have an affinity for brawling, but she does for axes. She still has no utility spells other than 1 range recover, which would be the thing you'd want out of spell casting in a brawling class. Like Manuela or Constance have the spell lists you'd want.
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Manuela might actually be a decent choice tbh.
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