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Ego-bot posted:The haka is the dumbest loving thing ever Sad but true.
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# ? May 12, 2024 02:32 |
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turn in your username, it's much too cool to be wasted on you.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 15:08 |
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Ego-bot posted:The haka is the dumbest loving thing ever Unless you're part of the culture that it originated from, and not one of the sportsball teams that appropriated it.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 15:14 |
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For an angry cannibal war dance it really is silly looking. I do like it when it's used to honor someone or something though. Kind of like a more energetic "thoughts and prayers."
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 15:40 |
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Otteration posted:"This is the best thing I have ever seen in riots. I want to be there" hello, new thread title
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 16:59 |
biracial bear for uncut posted:Unless you're part of the culture that it originated from, and not one of the sportsball teams that appropriated it. Agreed.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 17:11 |
Solice Kirsk posted:For an angry cannibal war dance it really is silly looking. I do like it when it's used to honor someone or something though. Kind of like a more energetic "thoughts and prayers." You really need to see it up close in person. A lot gets lost in a video.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 20:05 |
https://twitter.com/GuoBlue/status/1229182133572255744
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 21:33 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:You really need to see it up close in person. A lot gets lost in a video. This. It was performed at my school when I was about 12, and it was genuinely frightening. It also helps to keep in mind that Maoris are large people.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 21:45 |
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If you don't think this is the coolest poo poo ever I don't know what to tell you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azheB2D0Wy4
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 21:48 |
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I deeply enjoy the confused looks of the players on the opposite teams in these videos
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 21:54 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I_GxZwp5Fs
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 22:16 |
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:If you don't think this is the coolest poo poo ever I don't know what to tell you: This is goofy as gently caress.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 23:43 |
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Yea I’m sure when you’re about to fight to the death that might seem intimidating, but to the average person, dancing and singing is kinda corny.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 00:01 |
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RCarr posted:Yea I’m sure when you’re about to fight to the death that might seem intimidating, but to the average person, dancing and singing is kinda corny. Hi. Average person here checking in to say the Haka is loving dope.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 00:35 |
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RCarr posted:Yea I’m sure when you’re about to fight to the death that might seem intimidating, but to the average person, dancing and singing is kinda corny. A proper haka is shouted at absolute full volume, which can be crazy loud if you've got a group of trained folks doing it, and if you're not hitting yourself drat near hard enough to bruise, you're not doing it right. All Blacks performances often use sideline mics and you can still hear the packing sound of body hits over the shouting. It's not really about intimidating the other folks with how shouty you are, so much as it is whipping your own group up into a collective, barely-controlled frenzy. In full performances you occasionally get performers going rogue and barking or doing the eyes-wide-tongue-out face (Pūkana) in the middle of things before resuming the chant as normal. A good performance will be 100% unironic, which can come across as goofy if you're not in the right spot to experience it- which is right in front of it, ideally standing so that you can't easily put yourself into the mindset of this being a performance for your enjoyment. It's pretty effective in person, less effective sitting down and experiencing it through the protective distancing of a screen and speakers. E: Turns out there's a name for the eyes-wide-tongue-out face, neat! Added. Somfin has a new favorite as of 00:40 on Feb 18, 2020 |
# ? Feb 18, 2020 00:36 |
It's also worth noting that the tongue out literally means "I am going to eat you"
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 00:38 |
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The All Blacks win a lot so the haka's working for them anyway
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 00:45 |
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Somfin posted:A proper haka is shouted at absolute full volume, which can be crazy loud if you've got a group of trained folks doing it, and if you're not hitting yourself drat near hard enough to bruise, you're not doing it right. All Blacks performances often use sideline mics and you can still hear the packing sound of body hits over the shouting. It's not really about intimidating the other folks with how shouty you are, so much as it is whipping your own group up into a collective, barely-controlled frenzy. In full performances you occasionally get performers going rogue and barking or doing the eyes-wide-tongue-out face (Pūkana) in the middle of things before resuming the chant as normal. All the teams in front of them are just bored and sick of it and thinking about something else until the show is over. Just like the national anthem before a baseball game or Trump lapping on Daytona.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 01:03 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:It's also worth noting that the tongue out literally means "I am going to eat you" Anytime you’re ready
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 01:49 |
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The Ape of Naples posted:All the teams in front of them are just bored and sick of it and thinking about something else until the show is over. Just like the national anthem before a baseball game or Trump lapping on Daytona. All the people in this thread are just bored and sick of your posting.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 01:50 |
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Platystemon posted:All the people in this thread are just bored and sick of your posting.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 02:19 |
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I am not a sports person but I think I would feel cooler doing a haka than doing that stand in a circle with a hand in the center yelling "GO TEAM" thing.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 02:45 |
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I had the pleasure of helping film a Haka for a soap and yeah its 100x more powerful in person when you've got three 6'6" muscled dudes doing it in your face. Also according to the Kiwi director it's much more diverse in application than just "we angry". I think one of the things we struggle with in white western culture is earnest expressions of emotion, particularly in Australia, so we balk a bit at a bunch of guys going all out on one.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 03:15 |
The haka is a traditional Maori cultural expression outside of warfare as well, so making fun of it ain't a good look. Or are you going to start cracking jokes about those silly red Indians and their rain dances?
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 04:01 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:I deeply enjoy the confused looks of the players on the opposite teams in these videos That's exactly half the point, and wonderful to see.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 04:04 |
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Solice Kirsk posted:For an angry cannibal war dance it really is silly looking. I do like it when it's used to honor someone or something though. Kind of like a more energetic "thoughts and prayers." Post a better "cannibal war dance" [loving ugh] then. Show us better "thoughts and prayers." [loving ugh again.]
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 04:08 |
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chitoryu12 posted:The haka is a traditional Maori cultural expression outside of warfare as well, so making fun of it ain't a good look. Or are you going to start cracking jokes about those silly red Indians and their rain dances? Neither is appropriating it for a Rugby match. VVV OK? RoyKeen has a new favorite as of 04:21 on Feb 18, 2020 |
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The Ape of Naples posted:Neither is appropriating it for a Rugby match. There are Maori players on the All Blacks so the assumption is that they allow the pakeha on the team to join them
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 04:20 |
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RCarr posted:Yea I’m sure when you’re about to fight to the death that might seem intimidating, but to the average person, dancing and singing is kinda corny. Since corny but bad rear end content is needed: https://youtu.be/F3HyGJofXG4?t=121
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 04:28 |
The Ape of Naples posted:Neither is appropriating it for a Rugby match. Actually, in the context that it's used there it is a challenge. I think it's a great way of tying maori culture into our national teams. But please, continue. As was mentioned above it can have several different meanings - in the case of the funeral they are honoring the spirit of the fallen man.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 04:43 |
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The Ape of Naples posted:Neither is appropriating it for a Rugby match. That this is your reaction tells me that your cultural appropriation complaints are not in good faith. Also, how many more times are you going to express your opinion on this matter? You don’t like the haka. We got it the fourth time. Christ.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 04:44 |
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Ariong posted:That this is your reaction tells me that your cultural appropriation complaints are not in good faith. I didn’t know I had a limit to the times I reply or express an opinion. And you can decide that my complaints are not in “good faith” all you wish. I get the back door implication and I find that a bit snarky and I suspect it was already in your mind from the start but you believe what you wish and I will too. I’ve expressed my opinion. I’ll drop it and move on. VVV Yeah, sure. You nailed it. RoyKeen has a new favorite as of 04:57 on Feb 18, 2020 |
# ? Feb 18, 2020 04:52 |
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Ape were some dudes doing a haka while giving you swirlies or some poo poo?
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 04:53 |
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Oops, forgot one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOZkO7YfCS4
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 04:57 |
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APE keeping this derail alive like
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 05:03 |
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Even if I didn’t like the haka, I wouldn’t say much about it because it means something to other people. I don’t make a habit of disparaging ceremonies like weddings, baptisms, and funerals.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 05:12 |
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Stex T posted:APE keeping this derail alive like The guy he's lifting is probably 6 foot+ and 250 pounds, I like the smile on the guy behind him when he realizes who's going on, those are some strong shorts.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 05:49 |
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yaffle posted:The guy he's lifting is probably 6 foot+ and 250 pounds, I like the smile on the guy behind him when he realizes who's going on, those are some strong shorts. Yeah, the elastic on those shorts is the MVP.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 06:28 |
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Lady Disdain posted:Yeah, the elastic on those shorts is the MVP. My Victory Pants
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 06:33 |