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Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

Blistex posted:

The fact that a company in Canada is allowed to use equipment from a company that is essentially an arm of the CCP which is also currently engaging in genocide, so they can save a few bucks is a loving travesty.

Well, I just switched from telus to Shaw last week, and telus has been hounding me for an explanation/to wrap things up, and I have the phone right here next to me ready to call them.

Guess that's the explanation I'll give them, rather than 'my service sucked poo poo for almost three years and I got sick of putting up with it while it was also being overpriced simultaneously'. Might as well do some good with this garbage.

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sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

that's fascinating. in vietnam they got places where u can blow up a cow with an RPG
There is a military installation on Hainan where you could do this back in the 00's, except the cow part (somewhat surprisingly). I wasn't going to spend like 5,000RMB to do it or fire the anti-aircraft gun, they let me pretend to though:



Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

EimiYoshikawa posted:

Well, I just switched from telus to Shaw last week, and telus has been hounding me for an explanation/to wrap things up, and I have the phone right here next to me ready to call them.

Guess that's the explanation I'll give them, rather than 'my service sucked poo poo for almost three years and I got sick of putting up with it while it was also being overpriced simultaneously'. Might as well do some good with this garbage.

My brother switched his home internet from Telus to Shaw two years ago as well and the service guy was saying that a good 1/3 of their business (in Calgary) was people getting fed up with exactly what you said.

TheBuilder
Jul 11, 2001

What is this intended to shoot down? A Sopwith Camel?

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Cow Bazooka is definitely Cambodia, and you will not be able to hit a barn with the quality of the weapons they have.

There's the awesome myth of meeting the American guy who threw the pin on the grenade and blew his leg off as well you will always meet someone who actually met him

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
That happened often enough in the past that most militaries that even bother with grenade training work throwing one into muscle memory with simulation grenades (hollowed out, replaceable fuse primer for reuse) well before you get anywhere near any live ones.

Militaries worth a poo poo, I mean, not dog and pony show machines.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Hey I'm just scrolling past these posts but you're all bitches if you don't own your hardware.

I bought OnePlus for the specific reason that I can do what I want with it. Even xiaomi got lovely with that.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

BrainDance posted:

Hey I'm just scrolling past these posts but you're all bitches if you don't own your hardware.

I bought OnePlus for the specific reason that I can do what I want with it. Even xiaomi got lovely with that.

How dare you.....

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

This doesn't even look real at all; looks like an RPG-7 type grenade they threw on to a mockup tube.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
RPG tubes are basically just, well, tubes. If you fit all the necessary parts (firing mechanism, sights, grip) to any similarly sized pipe, it will fire the rocket.

My M72 LAW tube is mostly just fiberglass. What metal it does have is used for the slide extension, front sight frame and trigger assembly. Got it when someone in my unit decided it was time to clean out the training room storage and told me to throw it away. Pffft. Like that was going to happen.





So I turned it into a bong.

Entorwellian
Jun 30, 2006

Northern Flicker
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.



CRUSTY MINGE posted:

RPG tubes are basically just, well, tubes. If you fit all the necessary parts (firing mechanism, sights, grip) to any similarly sized pipe, it will fire the rocket.

My M72 LAW tube is mostly just fiberglass. What metal it does have is used for the slide extension, front sight frame and trigger assembly. Got it when someone in my unit decided it was time to clean out the training room storage and told me to throw it away. Pffft. Like that was going to happen.





So I turned it into a bong.

Well done! That is one of the coolest bongs I've ever seen.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I've been typical pothead lazy and haven't fixed the actual downstem for the bowl. I busted a glass one off inside and put her on the shelf. The bowl goes where the front sight pops out.

I need to get off my rear end and fix it but meh.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

Given the trends mobile computing is having on Chinese literacy, what would it take to develop something like Hangul but for Chinese? How closely integrated into Chinese language and thought is their alphabet?

Given all the conlangers online I imagine someone must have taken a crack at something like this.

CIGNX posted:

Well, isn't that what pinyin already is? Or even bopomofo.

The problem for Chinese is the number of homophones. Even with tones and the -er retroflex, there's less than 2000 sounds you can make in Mandarin. You'd have to have some familiarity with the characters to understand what a particular sound means in a sentence.

This + nationalism/history. After the revolution, the Communists actually mulled over abolishing characters in order to make literacy more accessible, but in the end decided against it for the above reason, as well as its place in history and cultural significance. (MacArthur was talked out of nuking kanji in postwar Japan for similar reasons.)

Simplification was the sort of compromise solution that the CCP went with - there was actually a second "wave" of simplification from the initial set some years later that the government tried to push, but it didn't really take and they rolled it back to Simplified Chinese 1.0 in fairly short order.

Small Gay Planet
Aug 2, 2019

by Fluffdaddy

gently caress off xenophobe

I’m reminded of UC Berkeley saying something about racism being a normal fearful reaction

Small Gay Planet fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Feb 18, 2020

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

That happened often enough in the past that most militaries that even bother with grenade training work throwing one into muscle memory with simulation grenades (hollowed out, replaceable fuse primer for reuse) well before you get anywhere near any live ones.

Militaries worth a poo poo, I mean, not dog and pony show machines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh8QYoD0n2s

There was a study done in WW2 about optimal grenade throwing. It boiled down to trying to teach a specific throw was a waste of time. Just throw it how you normally in whatever sport you played.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
That may be the case but even the US still trains people to kick an arm up 45° in the direction the grenade is supposed to go.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
What if you don't play sports?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
You probably have weak babby arms and should shoot the grenade launchers instead.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

oohhboy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh8QYoD0n2s

There was a study done in WW2 about optimal grenade throwing. It boiled down to trying to teach a specific throw was a waste of time. Just throw it how you normally in whatever sport you played.

Problem with Chinese recruits is that most of them have never thrown a ball other than a basketball. . . which doesn't translate well into grenade throwing.



During spring festival out in the countryside one year, my wife's uncle bought 5 of these bags and threw them on top of a literal pile of assorted fireworks that the younger kids (and less mature adults) could play with. One of those balls was the size of a toonie, and jam-packed with explosives. If you took a 5 gallon pail and put it upside down over top, it would get launched 6 feet in the air. Anyway, it was a few days of kids and uncles nearly losing their eyesight because nobody could throw these things more than 10 feet, or without hitting something close and it bouncing back at everyone.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

TheBuilder posted:

What is this intended to shoot down? A Sopwith Camel?

It looks like a 61K, which is a 37mm Soviet anti-aircraft cannon. So things like Stukas, primarily. In the modern day, it’d be used on helicopters/observation planes/maybe low flying CAS planes/lightly armored ground vehicles.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

oohhboy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh8QYoD0n2s

There was a study done in WW2 about optimal grenade throwing. It boiled down to trying to teach a specific throw was a waste of time. Just throw it how you normally in whatever sport you played.

Being the instructor must be funny. You KNOW that this will happen eventually. Every dude that goes up there to throw might blow your balls off

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
It looks like there’s a sleeve on the grenade that isn’t being held right or just a poor design. I don’t know why you would design a grenade with a feature like that. PLA logic.

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle
I'm amazed any of these guys were allowed a grenade until they had done the "Private! throw this bucket of grenade size rocks over that wall one at a time, now go pick up the rocks!" drill 20 times while a drill instructor screamed at them.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Shaocaholica posted:

It looks like there’s a sleeve on the grenade that isn’t being held right or just a poor design. I don’t know why you would design a grenade with a feature like that. PLA logic.

It looks like they still use stick grenades, old school poo poo like the WW2 german stick grenades. They're meant to be thrown like you would throw a knife, end over end, so throwing it like you're on the third grade softball team isn't going to produce good results.

They have their uses but take practice to throw, like knives.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
They don't look like stick nades. I think they are Russian F1 like grenades. A sleeve would be a very bad idea as you wouldn't know when it would release.



Nobody uses stick nades anymore as they are bulky enough you could carry a second nade or a third with WW2 German sticks. Nade launchers are superior in every way to any advantage the stick has over a normal nade.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Light googling turns up this mess:

http://www.bestchinanews.com/Military/5073.html

So according to this, they still use stick, or this person claims they did as recently as when the article was posted 4 years ago. This is not an easy topic to dig into. Also googling "Chinese stick grenades" turns up a picture of what looks like a miniature bowling pin called an M77-1 "offensive grenade" but who the gently caress knows.

I'd assume they're still burning through whatever stockpile they have, regardless of the variety. Why make more new ones when there's a mountain of perfectly good unused ones? Also why not give them to trainees, since they're probably never going to encounter a grenade again? Gotta get some novelty use out of them eventually.

It does have me curious about their variety of munitions, I'll say that much. That's a rabbit hole for another day.


Oh, and then there's this:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a24544/hand-grenade-crack-nuts/

quote:

A villager in China unknowingly used a hand grenade to crack walnuts for a quarter century, only realizing his potentially fatal mistake when he spotted the grenade on a government flyer.

The man, whose surname is Ran and who lives in Shaanxi province, claimed that a friend gave him the grenade in the early 1980s. Not having any idea what it was, he used it to crack open walnuts.

Picture of grenade in link.

CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Feb 19, 2020

d0s
Jun 28, 2004


Is that a big sack of honest to god blow your hand off cherry bombs? Are they just openly for sale in shops and stuff in China? I remember there were certain places you could get them around Chinatown NYC in the 80's (sold individually, behind the counter), but they seemed to disappear after that and now even stuff that looks powerful is like the strength of a single firecracker.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

d0s posted:

Is that a big sack of honest to god blow your hand off cherry bombs? Are they just openly for sale in shops and stuff in China? I remember there were certain places you could get them around Chinatown NYC in the 80's (sold individually, behind the counter), but they seemed to disappear after that and now even stuff that looks powerful is like the strength of a single firecracker.

The last time I saw them was around 2009. Also yes, they're fingat-removing cherry bombs.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

d0s posted:

Is that a big sack of honest to god blow your hand off cherry bombs? Are they just openly for sale in shops and stuff in China? I remember there were certain places you could get them around Chinatown NYC in the 80's (sold individually, behind the counter), but they seemed to disappear after that and now even stuff that looks powerful is like the strength of a single firecracker.

The farmer version of this is going to the co-op in the 90s and buying a couple of sticks worth of dynamite to "remove stumps from the fenceline" when most of the time a quarter or half stick would do the job and still have a bit left over to blow up old tractor tires.

Ahhh, the 90s. The real last great decade.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

oohhboy posted:

They don't look like stick nades. I think they are Russian F1 like grenades. A sleeve would be a very bad idea as you wouldn't know when it would release.



Nobody uses stick nades anymore as they are bulky enough you could carry a second nade or a third with WW2 German sticks. Nade launchers are superior in every way to any advantage the stick has over a normal nade.

Probably old stock knockoffs of RDG-33

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1230107263718674433

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


From their twitter feeds seems at least one of the 3 is currently in Wuhan, so getting and expelling them from the country is going to be pretty lol. Free pass out of lockdown I guess

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Light googling turns up this mess:

http://www.bestchinanews.com/Military/5073.html

So according to this, they still use stick, or this person claims they did as recently as when the article was posted 4 years ago. This is not an easy topic to dig into. Also googling "Chinese stick grenades" turns up a picture of what looks like a miniature bowling pin called an M77-1 "offensive grenade" but who the gently caress knows.

I'd assume they're still burning through whatever stockpile they have, regardless of the variety. Why make more new ones when there's a mountain of perfectly good unused ones? Also why not give them to trainees, since they're probably never going to encounter a grenade again? Gotta get some novelty use out of them eventually.

It does have me curious about their variety of munitions, I'll say that much. That's a rabbit hole for another day.


Oh, and then there's this:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a24544/hand-grenade-crack-nuts/


Picture of grenade in link.

"Offensive grenade" in this context refers to a grenade that produces as few fragments as possible, relying instead on blast and noise to distract, suppress, or dislodge an enemy. Basically, a grenade you can throw and then immediately rush towards wherever you've thrown it. In contrast, a "defensive grenade" relies on producing as many dangerous fragments as possible to destroy an enemy. These types of grenades are designed to be thrown from behind cover as the fragments can travel farther than a human can throw.
It's very much a WWII-era way of thinking about thrown explosives. Even before WWII grenades were developed for dual-use, an "offensive grenade" with a removable fragmentation sleeve of formed metal or full of ball bearings.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
I mean that makes sense to me.

Offensive grenade: thrown immediately prior to advancing on the target(s).

Defensive grenade: thrown while taking covering from enemy fire.

Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Despite all of these shortcomings, the Sten still has a long track record of shooting people right in the face.
College Slice
Technical analysis of the deaths data from China shows it's bunk.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/chinas-economic-data-have-always-raised-questions-its-coronavirus-numbers-do-too-51581622840

quote:

A statistical analysis of China’s coronavirus casualty data shows a near-perfect prediction model that data analysts say isn’t likely to naturally occur, casting doubt over the reliability of the numbers being reported to the World Health Organization.

...

In terms of the virus data, the number of cumulative deaths reported is described by a simple mathematical formula to a very high accuracy, according to a quantitative-finance specialist who ran a regression of the data for Barron’s. A near-perfect 99.99% of variance is explained by the equation, this person said.
...

Barron’s re-created the regression analysis of total deaths caused by the virus, which first emerged in the central Chinese city of Wuhan at the end of last year, and found similarly high variance. We ran it by Melody Goodman, associate professor of biostatistics at New York University’s School of Global Public Health.

“I have never in my years seen an r-squared of 0.99,” Goodman says. “As a statistician, it makes me question the data.”

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

TheBuilder posted:

What is this intended to shoot down? A Sopwith Camel?

That looks like a derivative of the soviet ZPU 14.5mm AA gun.

It's pretty unlikely to shoot anything down tbh but it'll prevent things like attack helicopters and low and slow ground attack planes from operating with complete impunity.

A 14.5mm gun will absolutely gently caress a plane up if it gets a few hits in, though.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Throwing some garbage out a minute ago and a Telus tech was servicing a ground-level switch. It was a real rat's nest and I chatted with him for a few minutes. He said that Telus is losing customers at a significant rate to Rogers and Shaw, but nobody is giving "Huawei" as the reason, just complaining about the lovely service. He said that the biggest problem he sees with Telus using Huawei tech is that people who are opting to use other providers like Bell or Rogers, etc. are still going to be using the Huawei provided infrastructure because the big three (Bell, Rogers, Telus) have an agreement where their users use each others towers (and hence the infrastructure), and even if you make a point of using a provider who stays clear of them, you're likely at some point to be routing your data through Huawei equipment.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

No surprise here. Every time I post their "Official" numbers I always :airquote:.

Whatever the real numbers are based on other reporting it doesn't seem Raccoon City bad.

You could make a game of WHO praise X country only for it to blow up in their face. Oh no!, how could we not have foreseen this!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51542241

quote:

A former passenger on the cruise ship MS Westerdam who tested positive for the Covid-19 coronavirus in Malaysia having left the vessel has led to fears that other passengers who have also moved on might have been exposed to the virus.

Efforts are now being made to track down those who have left the ship and Cambodia's decision to let the vessel dock - a move praised by the World Health Organization (WHO) - is now being questioned.
...

Why did Cambodia take the risk?

Jonathan Head, BBC South East Asia Correspondent

Cambodia's Hun Sen saw the Westerdam as an opportunity. As an authoritarian ruler who has held office for 35 years, he did not have to worry about public criticism over allowing it to dock.

Also, by attracting so much attention to his offer he not only appeared generous, but also diverted media attention from the European Union decision the same week to withdraw vital trade privileges from Cambodia over the government's suppression of the political opposition.

Most of all it gave Hun Sen something he has wanted for a long time; a chance to repair relations with the US. These were badly frayed three years ago when the opposition leader Kem Sokha, who looked on course to beat Hun Sen in the 2018 election, was arrested and accused of plotting, with US backing, to overthrow the government.

Independent media were shut down, journalists arrested, and the US pro-democracy organisation NDI forced to close.

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood

Fojar38 posted:

Even in that hypothetical scenario it's still not fine because any direct business with China is a moral failure.

why just china? there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, period. if we want to gently caress up china's economy, let's abolish capitalism.

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Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E

So are we already dead?

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