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John Wick of Dogs posted:I'd do the standard $27, rationally I know it being debate night doesn't actually matter, I'll be able to donate again before the end of February It is done, friend 
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Cabbit posted:Lawrence O'Donnell thinks Mike Bloomberg had some strong moments. As bad as CNN is, MSNBC is worse until only drunk Nicole Wallace and one other co-host is left. That’s when MSNBC becomes amazing.
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Having worked with RAICES too, they really should be protesting en masse outside, too.
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Feb 20, 2020 05:11
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i don't think Warren is going to get enough of a boost to do well in Nevada. Her base remains overwhelmingly white and middle class. I don't see tonight fundamentally changing that.
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$50 to Bernie tonight.
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Cabbit posted:Lawrence O'Donnell thinks Mike Bloomberg had some strong moments. Well, there were a few occasions when he didn't step on a rake. Bloomie's moments to shine!
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So for the people that watched the debate I think: Warren pulls from undecideds and moderates, with a small amount from Bernie. Bernie cruises along mostly unaffected. Klob supporters won't wanna go to Buttigeg, and vice versa Biden is going to sink lower, from not being noticed and from a sneaky last second attack making him lose "respectability" voters
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Feb 20, 2020 05:11
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MSNBC just accused Bernie of taking a "position of convenience" because in 2016 he didn't think the person who had the most delegates should be president, but now he says they should. Time to log off!
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Feb 20, 2020 05:11
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i want a shot of the audience who loving gleefully clapped and cheered when bloomberg said people should have no control over their lives at work
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Feb 20, 2020 05:13
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I think Klob supporters find safe haven with Warren?
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Feb 20, 2020 05:13
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You can't take from Bernie's stash exclusively with Warren's performance. The thing at play is the amorphous 10-15% that Buttergreg has mostly claimed so far. You'll still end up with Bernie at 1 and then some ordering of Butt, Klob, Warren. Then lonely Joe at 5th.
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Feb 20, 2020 05:14
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metasynthetic posted:It is done, friend I forget why, but keep your tips
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Feb 20, 2020 05:14
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Man, I was gonna go canvass for Bernie in Nevada this weekend but I totally botched the scheduling and read poo poo wrong and I can't go and now I feel totally useless.
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Feb 20, 2020 05:14
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It would be amazing for the progressive movement if Bernie and Warren are the last two standing in the primaries, tbh
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Feb 20, 2020 05:14
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We got a new name for Buttigeg out of this all: "Power Point Pete" It even has alliteration LMAO
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Feb 20, 2020 05:15
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Dogwood Fleet posted:I've never watched an entire debate and felt like I needed a cigarette afterwards. Good news, Klobs will put one out on your chest.
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Feb 20, 2020 05:15
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gandlethorpe posted:I forget why, but keep your tips Because the tips go to the DNC, more or less. JT Jag posted:It would be amazing for the progressive movement if Bernie and Warren are the last two standing in the primaries, tbh I can live with that.
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Feb 20, 2020 05:16
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JT Jag posted:It would be amazing for the progressive movement if Bernie and Warren are the last two standing in the primaries, tbh I would be broadly ok with this. I think if the Liz from tonight comes out to stay she could probably come out on top vs Trump. I want Bernie to get it though.
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mutata posted:Man, I was gonna go canvass for Bernie in Nevada this weekend but I totally botched the scheduling and read poo poo wrong and I can't go and now I feel totally useless. you can still sign up to make phone calls for him
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Feb 20, 2020 05:16
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mutata posted:So based on the usual tendencies, Warren did good so they'll declare her the frontrunner suddenly and Bernie did good so they'll not mention his name. Got it. I dunno if I would say Bernie did good, he got a couple chances to stump and had some good moments, but the first hour was not a good look and I think a couple of the back and forths didn't come across so positively. Warren was fun to watch and I think scored a lot of points. Bloom cratered, amy looked real bad several times. Biden was kinda just there, was real weird when he went off on bernie in his closing speech though and I imagine that's not really a good look for him. Pete I don't think had any good answers to anything but he had a composure and a manner of speaking that made him seem like generic politician you might see played by an actor in a movie, so someone casually watching probably thought he did good. If I had to personally rank performance I'd say it was Good: Warren Okay: Bernie (issues)/Pete (Decorum) Bad: Amy Died on national television: Bloom I didn't list Biden cause it felt like he might as well not have existed. If there's a followup I'd really like to see it was on that last question before closing speeches. It feels like kind of a big deal that 5 of the candidates basically all said they'd be willing to override popular vote, not only is that a bad look democratically speaking, but it also means they all pretty much think they're gonna lose in voted delegates. It's a short question that might slip by a lot of people unless it gets really signal boosted, but it was an active admission from each of them that they a: are losing b: want to ratfuck the winner.
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gandlethorpe posted:I forget why, but keep your tips they already skim
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Feb 20, 2020 05:17
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Eh, Liz let the mask fall and became incredibly nasty at her lowest point. I can't trust her, but I'll deffo cheer while she shanks a billionaire on national television.
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Feb 20, 2020 05:18
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BillyC posted:Eh, Liz let the mask fall and became incredibly nasty at her lowest point. I can't trust her, but I'll deffo cheer while she shanks a billionaire on national television. 
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Feb 20, 2020 05:18
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I want to see this Warren debate Mike Pence
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Feb 20, 2020 05:19
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:MSNBC just accused Bernie of taking a "position of convenience" because in 2016 he didn't think the person who had the most delegates should be president, but now he says they should. Time to log off! For those who don't know: His position hasn't changed, just now we're not pre-counting super-delegates.
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Feb 20, 2020 05:20
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Anyone who somehow believes this was the ‘real’ Liz Warren and not just more of her hopeless opportunism is more credulous than your average Bloom voter
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Feb 20, 2020 05:20
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Office Pig posted:Anyone who somehow believes this was the ‘real’ Liz Warren and not just more of her hopeless opportunism is more credulous than your average Bloom voter Let them fight.
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Feb 20, 2020 05:22
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Office Pig posted:Anyone who somehow believes this was the ‘real’ Liz Warren and not just more of her hopeless opportunism is more credulous than your average Bloom voter I certainly believe bitchy contrarian Liz was more honest than Aw Shucks let's Unite Liz.
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Feb 20, 2020 05:22
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The Glumslinger posted:I want to see this Warren debate Mike Pence We can't lose both Bernie and Liz from the Senate, it's really important that one of them holds their seat, especially Liz.
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Feb 20, 2020 05:24
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God drat https://twitter.com/GeoffMiami/status/1230346546362884098?s=19 We got him
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Amy still going after Pete on this post-debate interview
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John Wick of Dogs posted:God drat he's gonna put you in the gulag Chris
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Mauser posted:I had to look up South Bend and it's a town of 100k people. Why doesn't he run for governor or something? He ran for state treasurer before running for mayor and got 37.5% of the vote. Pete would get nuked if he ran for governor.
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Herewaard posted:Amy still going after Pete on this post-debate interview eat the rodent amy
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I would say that Pete is the most obviously completely unelectable person there, honestly even worse than Bloomberg. It is loving shocking that he has not been talked into withdrawing from the race for the sake of his party and because he just wouldn't be able to do it well.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:God drat Surprised Chris Matthews didn't need to breathe into a paper bag while saying this
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kidkissinger posted:they already skim Oh, good to know. I already don't always tip depending on how mad I am at the DNC on any given day but I was pleased with everyone gutting Bloomer tonight.
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