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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Riot Carol Danvers posted:

I'm okay with referring to him as Bloombag from now on

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Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
the first time most of these people have punched up in their entire life

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
I'm glad Warren is going out by suicide bombing Bloomberg.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Pete's whole laser-like focus at the end on shivving Amy like a hyena going after a wounded wildebeest was legit unsettling.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

facialimpediment posted:

Well, here's an idea about what you're fighting.

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1230263753159172097?s=19

He starts tomorrow and I absolutely, positively don't get it at all.

This is a loving cabinet-level position that's over all seventeen intelligence agencies. This is just mindboggling, even for Trump.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Riot Carol Danvers posted:

I'm okay with referring to him as Bloombag from now on

Also regarding the Butt: my last name is some forgotten French town that no one ever knows how to say, but at least it makes sense in some language. I'm convinced he made up the pronunciation of his name so people wouldn't call him Butt-ig-eig.

Yeah, but Bootygig?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Godholio posted:

Yeah, but Bootygig?

He's roughly the same age as a lot of us here. I could see a questionable teenage butts calling himself bootygig with a "na na na na nana na, getting bootygig" sung a time or seventeen. He definitely comes off as the type to listen to the Willenium.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

I think part of the reason I can't stand Butts is because I know him.
Not Him, but him. We all served with that guy. We all knew that guy in HS. We all took classes with him in college. Like, he just looks like he smells skeevy.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

That thread title :perfect:

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Godholio posted:

Yeah, but Bootygig?

I still stick to bootyjudge. its close enough and kinda funny

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Fister Roboto posted:

That thread title :perfect:

It is Very Good Indeed.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Looks like the German shooter left behind a manifesto. It's a bingo card as always - incel, nutzo, mommy issues, government conspiracies, etc. Woo.

https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1230485813881737217?s=19

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

facialimpediment posted:

Looks like the German shooter left behind a manifesto. It's a bingo card as always - incel, nutzo, mommy issues, government conspiracies, etc. Woo.

https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1230485813881737217?s=19

Yes, but what was his motivations? The world will never know...

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

facialimpediment posted:

Looks like the German shooter left behind a manifesto. It's a bingo card as always - incel, nutzo, mommy issues, government conspiracies, etc. Woo.

https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1230485813881737217?s=19

PewDiePie kills again! When will people wake up?!

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
So the DOJ said to throw the book at Stone. Then, the DOJ said "oopsie, nevermind!"

The DOJ is now saying to throw the book at Stone again. :psyduck: poo poo from the DOJ.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

facialimpediment posted:

So the DOJ said to throw the book at Stone. Then, the DOJ said "oopsie, nevermind!"

The DOJ is now saying to throw the book at Stone again. :psyduck: poo poo from the DOJ.

The new guys got a look at all the evidence and said "oh poo poo no yeah the book, throw it, this dude did all the crimes"

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
Criminalize suicide so that Stone and Manafort give that a shot too.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Riot Carol Danvers posted:

The new guys got a look at all the evidence and said "oh poo poo no yeah the book, throw it, this dude did all the crimes"
Or it's to clean stuff up so DOJ gets smeared less when Donnie pardons him.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


facialimpediment posted:

So the DOJ said to throw the book at Stone. Then, the DOJ said "oopsie, nevermind!"

The DOJ is now saying to throw the book at Stone again. :psyduck: poo poo from the DOJ.

Where's this being covered? Just want to bounce it off my lawyer buddy

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

That Works posted:

Where's this being covered? Just want to bounce it off my lawyer buddy

Some Twitter chains I'm tracking from reporters. Main chain:

https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1230503378058346498?s=19

Another dude, though he's not chaining: https://twitter.com/harrylitman/status/1230522356319178752?s=19

We seem to be on track for a 5-7 year sentence.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
The judge is spicy!

https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1230523590539382784?s=19

https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1230524184159232000?s=19

Edit: :eyesemoji:

https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1230524878614409216?s=19

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Feb 20, 2020

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

facialimpediment posted:

Looks like the German shooter left behind a manifesto. It's a bingo card as always - incel, nutzo, mommy issues, government conspiracies, etc. Woo.

https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1230485813881737217?s=19

:ohno:

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Oh for fucks sake, why can't these crazy people get over satan. Satan did nothing wrong. He's just chilling in hell on his throne when some loon starts offering souls for a little power. What's he gonna do, turn down a free lunch?

The internet was a loving mistake.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005



natas liah

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Stone got 40 months.

So, enjoy this badass article on a story I didn't know anything about.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1230529735463198720?s=19

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!

facialimpediment posted:

Stone got 40 months.

How does any self-respecting judge trying a case while being actively interfered with by the president not go for the maximum allowable sentence? At a certain point it's just a question of judicial independence.

Alaan
May 24, 2005

Popehat thought that she'd not be going full sentence anyway even before El Presidente jumped in. So probably the plan all along so spiteful sentencing is not a great idea when there are going to be multiple appeals flying.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
Not that any of it matters in the end because there is a 1000% chance that Donny is going to pardon him the second he's sentenced.

A Bad Poster fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Feb 20, 2020

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
That puts him away into his 70s. Might be long enough. Edit: Unless ^ that happens.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

I’m surprised trump hasn’t already pardoned him

Alaan
May 24, 2005

I think any real spicy Pardons will wait on the election. Stone will have to suck it up for a few months unless he gets a new trial.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Trump knows he has a nothing matters shield, the next jokes he tells about the democratic primary will push away any news about pardons

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

How does any self-respecting judge trying a case while being actively interfered with by the president not go for the maximum allowable sentence? At a certain point it's just a question of judicial independence.

There were no similar cases as a sentencing cross-reference. Stone's poo poo was different than basically any other case, as it's a weirdo blend of lying to Congress, plus threats, and other stuff. Usually, the congressional lies are only worth a few months.

The feds were stretching in the initial 7-9 year recommendation, but they were stretching in a legitimate way. As Judge ABJ basically said, her sentence is neutral to everything going on around her, as that's the deal with being a judge.

The general guess is that she used the Cohen case as a guidepost - Michael Cohen got a bit less time.

Edit: pretty much what the below says. Popehat guessed it would be a 24-36 sentence and it was 40, so not that far off.

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Feb 20, 2020

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
A big escalator in the original 7-9 recommendation was because of Stone's witness tampering. Seven to nine was the appropriate sentence per the guidelines for Stone's convictions and exacerbating circumstances. The judge made clear to point out in sentencing that Stone didn't misspeak. He deliberately lied and then tried to cover up those lies via various forms of obstruction, further lies, and witness tampering. These lies weren't to a hostile audience. They were to the Republican controlled house intelligence committee under Devin Nunes. He lied because his options were to either plead the fifth and potentially incriminate himself and the president or lie. He opted to lie. He was guilty as could loving be, and had no applicable mitigation. Three and a third years for something that usually gets a few months is probably the right call regardless of the guidelines, though.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
I've seen some arguments on Twitter that the shorter sentence is also less likely to be pardoned precisely because of its brevity, but those are predicated on feelings of shame or the threat of potential consequences that the administration seems to have transcended long ago.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Alaan posted:

Popehat thought that she'd not be going full sentence anyway even before El Presidente jumped in. So probably the plan all along so spiteful sentencing is not a great idea when there are going to be multiple appeals flying.

Federal sentences within the guidelines are presumptively appropriate so not sure on what grounds going higher in the range would provide.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1230587740372123648?s=19

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



weaponized crop dusters?

:getin:

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



“Weaponized crop duster” reminds me of farting into a fan that was blowing on a useless SGM (I know, redundant) in Afghanistan. I had just arrived and my bowels were in a twist, and the mix was so foul that even in the desert he would turn to the guy next to him and ask if that SFC had just poo poo his pants again 😂

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US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah
Edit: And I'm weaponizing the double post

US Berder Patrol fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Feb 20, 2020

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