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be grateful they're just asking for some statues, if britain had to give back EVERYTHING it stole we would be here for millennia
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Feb 19, 2020 12:30
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Any news tags with the choice headline "UK HAS LOST ITS MARBLES"???
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Feb 19, 2020 12:34
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My favorite museum slapfight is at the Technikmuseum in Berlin. In the airplane section there's a room with a bunch of historical artifacts from WWI era aviation. Except it's just a bunch of pictures or wooden reproductions, and then a plaque explaining basically "the Nazi's moved this collection to Poland for safekeeping during the war when it looked like Berlin was going in to get bombed all to gently caress. After the war we politely asked for the stuff back but Poland keeps saying 'we're really busy' and 'well think about it and get back to you'  "Just laughing forever at Poland sitting on a room full of old airplane kitsch and while German curators act passive-aggressively salty about it.
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Feb 19, 2020 12:40
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https://twitter.com/marcusleroux/status/1229838542924402688?s=21
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mrmcd posted:My favorite museum slapfight is at the Technikmuseum in Berlin. In the airplane section there's a room with a bunch of historical artifacts from WWI era aviation. Except it's just a bunch of pictures or wooden reproductions, and then a plaque explaining basically "the Nazi's moved this collection to Poland for safekeeping during the war when it looked like Berlin was going in to get bombed all to gently caress. After the war we politely asked for the stuff back but Poland keeps saying 'we're really busy' and 'well think about it and get back to you' Mine is the Virginia Confederate battle flag that Minnesota captured on the field of battle, Virginia keeps asking for it, and Minnesota keeps saying gently caress you we won this from traitors.
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Feb 19, 2020 13:36
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Dravs posted:Just googled the elgin marbles and was surprised to find that it is just like a fresco of sculptured (presumably) marble? Is it weird I just assumed they would be little spheres like the marbles you would play with back in school? they are worth going to see if you can. they are breathtakingly amazing. (they need to be in Greece)
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Feb 19, 2020 13:38
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silvergoose posted:Mine is the Virginia Confederate battle flag that Minnesota captured on the field of battle, Virginia keeps asking for it, and Minnesota keeps saying gently caress you we won this from traitors. 
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Feb 19, 2020 13:49
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silvergoose posted:Mine is the Virginia Confederate battle flag that Minnesota captured on the field of battle, Virginia keeps asking for it, and Minnesota keeps saying gently caress you we won this from traitors. Meanwhile Diane Feinstein had to be lambasted into not flying a Confederate flag from San Francisco city hall
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Feb 19, 2020 13:55
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Bust Rodd posted:wasn’t this Churchill’s, like, entire UK-Indian foreign policy? no, to be clear the media's line was "let them starve, its because they cant take care of themselves," the government's line was actively and purposefully starving them to death to clear the surplus population and make profits on food speculation e: there was one governor in india during the famines who actually started a proper relief work, while thousands and thousands died all around him his whole province only lost a dozen people to famine. he was crucified in the UK press and called back to parliament to be shamed. next time we caused another famine he did what he was told and let thousands die. there was also a rich private UK citizen who was so horrified by the famine he set up famine releif out of his own wallet and managed to help hundreds of people survive. the UK government sanctioned him and sent the military police in to break up his famine relief. Communist Thoughts has issued a correction as of 16:19 on Feb 19, 2020 |
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Feb 19, 2020 16:17
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MikeCrotch posted:Meanwhile Diane Feinstein had to be lambasted into not flying a Confederate flag from San Francisco city hall That is distinctly not my favorite museum tiff.
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Feb 19, 2020 16:17
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it cant really be overstated how intentionally murderous, perverse and cruel the british empire was. we never learn about it and now we're brexiting as a direct result of never facing up to our digusting racism, its very poetic imo
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Feb 19, 2020 16:21
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Communist Thoughts posted:it cant really be overstated how intentionally murderous, perverse and cruel the british empire was. it’s true. people think it’s political correctness gone mad to even teach kids about the crimes of empire.
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Feb 19, 2020 16:35
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The USA has this issue too and everyone melted down when the nyt did its 1619 project
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Feb 19, 2020 16:37
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Communist Thoughts posted:it cant really be overstated how intentionally murderous, perverse and cruel the british empire was. I can recommend Britain's Empire: Resistance, Repression and Revolt by Richard Gott for this!!!!
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Feb 19, 2020 16:55
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oliwan posted:I can recommend Britain's Empire: Resistance, Repression and Revolt by Richard Gott for this!!!! Thanks will pick it up on payday.
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Feb 19, 2020 17:21
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DeadButDelicious posted:Thanks will pick it up on payday. Speaking of pay: UK Wages back above pre-economic crisis levels That's ... good, right? Analyst Andy Verity posted:But to many workers, this minor economic landmark will serve less as a cause for celebration and more as a reminder that the past decade has been the worst for improvements in living standards in more than 200 years. lol
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Feb 19, 2020 18:29
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Private Speech posted:Speaking of pay: worse than the 1930s lmebo
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Feb 19, 2020 18:39
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"Low-pay think tank the Resolution Foundation points out that if pre-crisis trends for increases in pay in real terms had continued, the average wage would now be £141 a week higher." Haha. gently caress.
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Feb 19, 2020 18:39
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And that's the last decade i.e. from 2010, so even accounting for the crisis itself. Tories: very good for the economy
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Feb 19, 2020 18:43
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Private Speech posted:And that's the last decade i.e. from 2010, so even accounting for the crisis itself. You fool, you absolute buffoon, the economy isn't ordinary people's wages it's some ethereal number the rich worship and gamble with.
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Feb 19, 2020 19:04
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The Elgin Marbles are just the beginning of it for Athens. All the areas around the ancient section are full of headless and handless statues, and I know you bitches got museums full of heads and hands!
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Feb 19, 2020 20:11
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you laugh now, but wait until you have to treat the UK the same as one small part of Indiana
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Feb 19, 2020 20:24
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PostNouveau posted:The Elgin Marbles are just the beginning of it for Athens. All the areas around the ancient section are full of headless and handless statues, and I know you bitches got museums full of heads and hands! I'm the Carmen Sandiego that aggressively steals things off of monuments and works of art to actively ruin them
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Feb 19, 2020 20:26
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PostNouveau posted:The Elgin Marbles are just the beginning of it for Athens. All the areas around the ancient section are full of headless and handless statues, and I know you bitches got museums full of heads and hands! think most of them are in Italy
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Feb 19, 2020 20:26
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Victory Position posted:I'm the Carmen Sandiego that aggressively steals things off of monuments and works of art to actively ruin them The big question when you walk around like the Agora is "What kind of loving rear end in a top hat would do this?"
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Victory Position posted:I'm the Carmen Sandiego that aggressively steals things off of monuments and works of art to actively ruin them But also steal entire monuments, too.
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Feb 19, 2020 20:33
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Yeah the main thing that sticks in my mind from the British Museum is they shipped an entire ancient temple there, it's shameless lmao
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Feb 19, 2020 20:40
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PostNouveau posted:The Elgin Marbles are just the beginning of it for Athens. All the areas around the ancient section are full of headless and handless statues, and I know you bitches got museums full of heads and hands! Heads, yes. For hands you're gonna need to go to Belgium
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Feb 19, 2020 20:47
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PostNouveau posted:The big question when you walk around like the Agora is "What kind of loving rear end in a top hat would do this?" 
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Feb 19, 2020 20:55
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Gum posted:Heads, yes. For hands you're gonna need to go to Belgium 
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Feb 19, 2020 21:28
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Gum posted:Heads, yes. For hands you're gonna need to go to Belgium Goddamn, take that Leopold
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Feb 19, 2020 21:46
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lol at this idiot https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1230283289073737730?s=21
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Feb 20, 2020 14:11
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The UK don't need those marbles anyway. Just replace 'em with Brexit.
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marktheando posted:it’s true. people think it’s political correctness gone mad to even teach kids about the crimes of empire. When I was at school our history lessons, at least to GCSE level, were like: Ancient Egypt was cool right??? The Roman Empire basically built our country although Boudica definitely had girl power! Let's watch Gladiator. Chaucer Lindow Man and other assorted bog bodies. Life of Shakespeare Medieval kings and queens (never getting past Elizabeth 1), generally focused around Protestant vs Catholic conflicts with maybe a single line referencing the people who left to find ~a new world~ right at the end Wasn't it great when we decided to stop slavery? Wasn't what the Americans did to the slaves just awful? Completely unrelated note but look at all the cool stuff our town built with how much money it had from trade! The Russian Revolution and why communism is bad A little Stalin, as a treat Wasn't ww1 sad? But weren't we awesome in ww2? You guys only need like one page in the textbook about the Holocaust right? Let's watch Blackadder and Saving Private Ryan. And that was it. Notice any Empire sized gaps? How about Irish ones? (this was also a fancy expensive school where a bunch of BBC people and celebrities sent their kids or went as kids themselves) Pyrotoad has issued a correction as of 16:02 on Feb 20, 2020 |
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I remember being taught that the British people betrayed War Hero Churchill by voting for Attlee. State school ofc
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Feb 20, 2020 15:06
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the idea of smart-rear end UK kids in High School being like “what? we were the largest imperial colonizers in human history and owned 25% of the planet and now were just a loving mudskip away from total economic collapse, LMAO, yeah right you tosser!” or whatever the gently caress young brits talk like is very funny to me, the same way it was when the very smart and extremely woke kids at my high school kept interrupting our lessons on the Industrial revolution with questions like “but where was all the cotton coming from?” “why was everyone so eager to do trade with the American South” until the school swapped her into AP history so she wouldn’t corrupt the dumb-dumbs.
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lol even after the brits outlawed slavery on the islands they kept selling them to the us. doesnt count if you cant see it amazing grace was written by a converted slave ship captain lol tho he realized how lovely a person he was and was an abolitionist by then Robo Reagan has issued a correction as of 16:26 on Feb 20, 2020 |
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I 'like' (scare quotes b/c seriously wtf) how BBC linked the recent attack in Germany with accepting refugees from the middle eastBBC Security Correspondent posted:The problem has been particularly acute in - but not confined to - the east of the country, in the former East Germany. There, unemployment levels have been higher than in the rest of Germany and a simmering resentment, by some, of the recent immigrant arrivals has manifested itself in arson attacks on hostels. see Germans should have just deported the lot of them like we did :britsay:
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Bust Rodd posted:the idea of smart-rear end UK kids in High School being like “what? we were the largest imperial colonizers in human history and owned 25% of the planet and now were just a loving mudskip away from total economic collapse, LMAO, yeah right you tosser!” or whatever the gently caress young brits talk like is very funny to me, the same way it was when the very smart and extremely woke kids at my high school kept interrupting our lessons on the Industrial revolution with questions like “but where was all the cotton coming from?” “why was everyone so eager to do trade with the American South” until the school swapped her into AP history so she wouldn’t corrupt the dumb-dumbs. People who've grown up in the last two decades won't need much convincing that the country is collapsing. That we were once a giant murder empire, yeah that bit might confuse them. Mainly because they won't understand how as they've only ever known a country with 3 ships and 20 underequipped squaddies.
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