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I liked Casino but I also think it's not on the same level as Goodfellas. The Irishman is good but long IMO.
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oldpainless posted:To this day I still can’t figure out how Batman loses the police chopper by just turning off his lights and slowing down a little bit in one of the dark knight movies Pictured: Gotham Police 
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Basebf555 posted:If you ever feel the desire to watch Kung Pow, just watch Kung Fu Hustle instead. I implore you to reconsider
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christmas boots posted:IIRC Catholicism is to Japan what eastern religion is to us: something we don't care enough to depict with any kind of accuracy but love to use as a quick shorthand for exotic spirituality Absolutely. There's kind of a whole thing with Anime Catholicism, see also JRPGs where the church is either vaguely in the background and doesn't really have any coherent connection to the actual mythos of the world the plot explores, or obviously the evil catholic church where you inevitably fight the pope and/or God. Often a lot of elements are basically popular Christian trappings interpreted through more familiar (to them) Eastern religion, like 'nuns' who are closer to mikos (shrine maidens) than anything. It throws Western viewers for a loop because they see a lot of familiar trappings and symbols completely stripped of the unspoken context and implications we're raised to expect from them. Hellsing is a pretty prominent exception as an anime which actually acknowledges how real-world Christianity works and is actually aware of Protestantism, with the Protestant/Catholic split being a major part of the plot, while the liberties taken are more deliberately so to be cool rather than out of ignorance or assumptions. (Of course, the author is apparently friends with a Japanese christian himself, incidentally the author of Trigun) While Evangeleon notoriously got a lot of Western viewers interested with the heavy use of Christian symbolism, many of whom took quite a while to realise that the creators really just used a bunch of names and symbols that looked cool and exotic without knowing or caring what the context was. Then there's cases that are possibly just loving with us, like that one Jojo show where they're strongly implied (more explicit in the original Japanese) to be chasing after the corpse of Jesus Christ. (Who, incidentally, was historically actually named Joshua, son of Joseph)
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Basebf555 posted:If you ever feel the desire to watch Kung Pow, just watch Kung Fu Hustle instead. Watch Hercules Returns instead.
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Babe Magnet posted:I implore you to reconsider You don't like Kung Fu Hustle? Who doesn't like Kung Fu Hustle? Bizarre.
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Babe Magnet posted:I implore you to reconsider Pay no attention to Basebf555, we purposely trained him to post wrong... as a joke.
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For real though, is Kung Fu Hustle like a movie that most people think of as bad? This turns my entire worldview upside down.
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Kung Fu Hustle is fine but uneven for me. It's Looney Tunes and then some guys get violently dismembered in a not at all funny way and then its back to comedy for the rest of the run time.
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That kind of reminds me of another movie (I think it was Korean) that I saw, where there was some underwater beast terrorizing a city, killing people and devouring them. Everything about the movie - the tone, the box, the description, made it sound like a horror/thriller film, and the first scene where the creature basically runs through a waterside park enforces this, but then there are scenes that feel like they were inserted for comedy, like having a family wailing and flailing like cartoon characters in front of a rememberance altar for a character or something, literally falling over each other repeatedly like they were trying to prove who was the most sad. It was jarring as hell. As for Kung Fu Hustle, I think those scenes are just there to show 'oh wait things have actually become serious'
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Feb 20, 2020 15:58
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Morpheus posted:That kind of reminds me of another movie (I think it was Korean) that I saw, where there was some underwater beast terrorizing a city, killing people and devouring them. Everything about the movie - the tone, the box, the description, made it sound like a horror/thriller film, and the first scene where the creature basically runs through a waterside park enforces this, but then there are scenes that feel like they were inserted for comedy, like having a family wailing and flailing like cartoon characters in front of a rememberance altar for a character or something, literally falling over each other repeatedly like they were trying to prove who was the most sad. It was jarring as hell. The Host. South Korean film is often like that. Real emotion mixed with over the top comedy. It takes some getting used to and it's not for everybody but I like it. See also: Parasite and The Wailing.
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Everyone has different standards for what is normal in film reality.
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It's been a good decade since I saw it, but I recall the monster from the Host being really well made. It looked real and moved like you would expect a large slimy sea creature would. Was the American who bravely rushes in to fight it, hurts the monster, and then gets eaten an analogy for US foreign policy?
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I think this is the scene Morpheus was talking about : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLHfcs9q4O8 For reference, the Host has this amazing sequence as well (which also mixes horror and goofiness): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV-mYZAPcRE EDIT: I guess the effects are not as amazing as they were at the time, mostly cause the scene is perfectly lit, which is a bold choice on its own. That Italian Guy has a new favorite as of 16:16 on Feb 20, 2020 |
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That Italian Guy posted:I think this is the scene Morpheus was talking about : Yuuup that's the scene. And yeah that monster scene is good, specifically because it doesn't really use any monster tropes of people being alone, or making dumb choices or whatever - it's just a whole lot of people getting completely murdered by this freakish monster that is chasing them down like prey.
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Morpheus posted:Yuuup that's the scene. I think it's even better than that cause the monster only really kills a handful of people, behaving more like some kind of freakish wild beast released into a large city. Even when it gets inside the container, it looks like it's mostly thrashing around, with people able to escape from the door the monster entered from and other still alive after a minute or so.
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I like that dog what attacks the guy's leg while the monster is eating people. What a dedication to the craft.
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The monster takes up physical space in a way most CGI doesn't. The part where it's clawing up the dirt embankment is really good, because obviously a sea creature wouldn't really do well on that kind of surface. Also I never noticed it before but it has puffer fish teeth and puffer fish are stone cold killers of the deep.
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Basebf555 posted:The Host. I don't watch much Korean cinema so seeing how funny Parasite was caught me off guard.
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Krispy Wafer posted:The monster takes up physical space in a way most CGI doesn't. The part where it's clawing up the dirt embankment is really good, because obviously a sea creature wouldn't really do well on that kind of surface. A big part of it is that the movie is designed in such a way that it's very entertaining even when the monster isn't actually on screen. In the end the monster only appears for like a total of maybe 10 minutes so they were able to completely focus their attention and resources of those select few scenes. So the attention to detail in those scenes is top notch.
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Basebf555 posted:The Host. It's not like American film hasn't done dumber things. Like The Man With The Golden Gun where they did one of the most dangerous and spectacular car stunts in history and then put a loving slide whistle sound effect over it. Or how many American action and horror movies have dumb stoner comedy. (albeit there's definitely different sub-genres there) Korean cinema apparently messes with Western viewers a bit because they've gotten good at making movies that look like Hollywood style films in presentation, but use their own genre trappings that they developed by themselves. Basebf555 posted:A big part of it is that the movie is designed in such a way that it's very entertaining even when the monster isn't actually on screen. In the end the monster only appears for like a total of maybe 10 minutes so they were able to completely focus their attention and resources of those select few scenes. So the attention to detail in those scenes is top notch. I'm reminded of the story of Jaws where the mechanical shark prop barely worked, so they had to fill out the runtime with plot and characterisation and make use of the camera and soundtrack, which ended up being way scarier and more interesting.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's not like American film hasn't done dumber things. Like The Man With The Golden Gun where they did one of the most dangerous and spectacular car stunts in history and then put a loving slide whistle sound effect over it. Or how many American action and horror movies have dumb stoner comedy. (albeit there's definitely different sub-genres there) You're right that it's not just about the comedy, it's about the specific Looney Tunes/Three Stooges style comedy that American seem to be surprised by. Maybe because it's considered old-school and outdated compared to stuff like what you referred to; stoner comedy or the kind of sarcastic quip one-liners we're used to seeing in action and even horror movies.
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I always had a problem with the slide whistle in Jurassic Park when Nedry slips and loses the embryos right before being eaten by the chewing tobacco dinosaur. I guess it was supposed to make the scene not as scary or something?
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Samuringa posted:That's a youtube account alright whoa
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BiggerBoat posted:whoa SAME
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That sort of tonal whiplash is pretty common in Korean films and it rules. Basically my favorite part about movies from that part of the world.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I always had a problem with the slide whistle in Jurassic Park when Nedry slips and loses the embryos right before being eaten by the chewing tobacco dinosaur. I guess it was supposed to make the scene not as scary or something? It's the sound of the cable he's holding getting yanked out of the winch.
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And very obviously so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d921M-ACMM4&t=5s But, yes, it does sound silly.
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I was quoting Kung Pow but also I like Kung Fu Hustle just fine, I just like Kung Pow more. It's okay to like one thing and still like another thing Also the james bond car flip slide whistle rules
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Polaron posted:It's the sound of the cable he's holding getting yanked out of the winch. It's this. I was totally confused as to what the op was talking about.
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Feb 21, 2020 05:27
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It was a good quote, Babe Magnet
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thanks I appreciate that
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Basebf555 posted:The Host. The host and parasite are directed by the same person.
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Babe Magnet posted:I was quoting Kung Pow but also I like Kung Fu Hustle just fine, I just like Kung Pow more. It's okay to like one thing and still like another thing This is irrational but this is the thread for it so well done. I had the misfortune of going to see Kung Pow without knowing what it was. I was a kid and it was the only film that was starting soon and not rated R. Only time I've ever wanted to leave a theatre. If I'd known you could demand a refund on bad movies I totally would have left and done so but I was a kid so I sat through it. Kung Fu Hustle is a legit good film though.
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Is Kung pow the one where he fights a cow? Maybe the same movie but I think I remember a line like "and I shall call him betty"?
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The Host, not to be confused with The Perfect Host. Which is how I was reading a lot of these posts.
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bobkatt013 posted:The host and parasite are directed by the same person. Holy poo poo, can't believe I didn't realize this. Edit: gently caress it also has Kang-ho Song in it, and Doona Bae.
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Len posted:Is Kung pow the one where he fights a cow? Maybe the same movie but I think I remember a line like "and I shall call him betty"? That is the one. It's a very, very stupid movie, purposely so.
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Whoa cat Betty, bit a man
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Morpheus posted:Holy poo poo, can't believe I didn't realize this. Doona Bae sounds like a companion to Pillow Waifu. (Doona is an Australianism for duvet, before you ask.)
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